Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I hope Eric Washington, is a good D-Line coach. Beane and Management seem to look how athletic the player is when they are drafting. In the old days the would look at production in college before drafting now it seems the Bills look at the athletic side of the player. So when pundits look at who the Bills are going to draft look at the player who is the crazy athlete. Allen, Edmunds, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey152 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Pass Rusher is really interesting... When you evaluate 3-4 outside linebackers/speed rushers, explosion and/or lateral agility REALLY matter. So much so that if a guy doesn’t have it, you might as well not even bother. On the other hand, 4-3 defensive ends, especially guys that play LDE, are different. Their job is different. Pass rush is important, obviously, but they also need to set the edge, disengage from blockers and rarely get a free release/direct route at the backfield. Explosion is useful, but not a primary skill because it often leaves them out of position for anything but a 7 step drop...it’s guys like Hughes that get lots of pressure and not many sacks in today’s NFL. GR is exactly what you want at LDE. He’s long, smart and athletic enough to close and finish when he gets the chance. I only saw him in one game (vs Pitt), but he killed us. He’s never really blocked...it seems like he can shed the tackle/guard whenever he wants. When I watch him, what I see is a disciplined pass rusher that is excellent at contain and finishes with a quick close and long ass arms (not to mention some of the biggest/strongest hands I have ever seen). I loved Calais Campbell coming out, and I love this kid, too. A+ 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: He definitely fell after landing on his vertical jump... It's not unusually for guys to land akwardley. I read someone say he slipped on the 3 cone. I can't verify if that was metaphorical or literal. As for his 40, 4.68 and the best 10 second split is still elite. Even if Phillips beat his time. He ran faster than JPP and Bruce Smith for Christ sakes. Pretty solid RAS score which we know the Bills love. So the idea he is a low ceiling athlete is flat out wrong. He isn't Edmunds, Oliver and Allen.... but those guys don't get to #30. He definitely has uncoachable traits. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: NFL Network guys loved it, and I'd trust them over the clowns at ESPN. My friend and I quickly switched coverage over to NFL Network even before Jax made their first pick. Good lord ESPN, you have fallen from grace. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheJauronClap said: This guys plays so much better inside and I think that’s why the bills ultimately took him they see it. Edge is tough he needs a lot of work technically We're seeing a trend. Obada is long and best rushing from the inside. I think there is a clear plan here. We're going to see players lined up everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yep. An under-rated skill for a pass rusher. Mobile QB’s will not move around the pocket all day against this guy. His inspector gadget arms and ability to close are what stand out. If he was playing Addison’s role against Arizona, there no way Murray even gets off the Hail Mary. LDD's and your observation are what struck me about the highlights. This was a Mahomes stopping pick, as Patrick can usually make the first wave attacker, i.e., edge rusher miss, but the subsequent misses are more a combination of Mahomes and the inability of the attacker to latch on to him. I see GR almost built for the clean up role. Beane is canny. Edited April 30, 2021 by Enemarty 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Enemarty said: LDD's and your observation are what struck me about the highlights. This was a Mahomes stopping pick, as Patrick can usually make the first wave attacker, i.e., edge rusher miss, but the subsequent misses are more a combination of Mahomes and the inability of the attacker to latch on to him. I see GR almost built for the clean up role. And in the time it took to type this, I see BuffaloRebound making the same point. Beane is canny. There was a play in the AFCCG - I almost referenced it in my debrief - where Addison bullrushed Fisher and beat him and was moving towards Mahomes with a free shot and Mahomes just shuffled up in the pocket as Addison went past on the outside and it was down over. That is exactly the type of play where Rousseau's athleticism and length can keep him in the down and still affect the passer. It is exactly that sort of play one imagines the Bills are envisaging. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, MJS said: Dang, can I have your autograph? I was going to ask you for yours first, your so popular and i feel honored to just hear from you. Thanks for making a day special Cheers Edited April 30, 2021 by Niagara Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yep. An under-rated skill for a pass rusher. Mobile QB’s will not move around the pocket all day against this guy. His inspector gadget arms and ability to close are what stand out. If he was playing Addison’s role against Arizona, there no way Murray even gets off the Hail Mary. 9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Yep. An under-rated skill for a pass rusher. Mobile QB’s will not move around the pocket all day against this guy. His inspector gadget arms and ability to close are what stand out. If he was playing Addison’s role against Arizona, there no way Murray even gets off the Hail Mary. Channeling @BADOLBILZ ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis#/media/File:White-rumped_vulture_(Gyps_bengalensis)_Photograph_by_Shantanu_Kuveskar.jpg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes they certainly have a “type”. I feel like a lot of what I read about Rousseau pre-draft is that he’s really a DT/Edge. I expect they want to use him rushing inside as well He showed capable of getting pressure inside and I suspect they like the idea of 6’6+ with very long arms disrupting the passing lanes from inside on 3rd downs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Enemarty said: LDD's and your observation are what struck me about the highlights. This was a Mahomes stopping pick, as Patrick can usually make the first wave attacker, i.e., edge rusher miss, but the subsequent misses are more a combination of Mahomes and the inability of the attacker to latch on to him. I see GR almost built for the clean up role. And in the time it took to type this, I see BuffaloRebound making the same point. Beane is canny. Again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis#/media/File:White-rumped_vulture_(Gyps_bengalensis)_Photograph_by_Shantanu_Kuveskar.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Draconator said: Agreed with what you said about Bonham's feel and power. Neil also had power for sure, but his all around drumming (jazz for instance) gives him the top spot for me. Jack DeJohnette says "yaawwwn" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 9 hours ago, BillsSbSoon said: Ill trust beane and mcdermott especially with this but when you watch him he was more effective rushing inside on 3rd downs than he was outside He only played one year in College, so certainly might need some time to work on his outside moves. Still, if a guy's getting the the QB, I don't really care if he's doing it inside or outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This guy reminds me EXACTLY of Chandler Jones (6'5 265). When the Pats drafted Chandler Jones 21st out of Syracuse I laughed because I thought he would be an immediate bust. He looked slow as molasses on film and had a bad pro day. The tape just looked BAD. However, he has the same "long strider" build and technique as Rousseau. It doesn't look twitchy or high-punch, but every long step gets him closer to the QB faster. As we all know, Chandler went on to be a 3x pro-bowler and league sack leader, garnering 10+ sacks the last 5 years in a row. Maybe I'm drinking the cool-aid, but they look really, really similar. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: My friend and I quickly switched coverage over to NFL Network even before Jax made their first pick. Good lord ESPN, you have fallen from grace. I like the music on ESPN though. It brings me back to those weekend drafts (that were far superior), where you'd sit on the couch for 16 hours and watch the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: Again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_vulture_crisis#/media/File:White-rumped_vulture_(Gyps_bengalensis)_Photograph_by_Shantanu_Kuveskar.jpg Yup. Dude has Gumby arms with stick 'em hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 When you watch this kid on the inside he looks like Deforest Buckner. Long quick rip and swim and just create havoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 He looks like an average starting DE to me. They said the same thing about Lawson, same thing about Epenesa, and now Rousseau. He looks like a 3-5 sack guy in the NFL. It's clear the Bills like prototypical size at DE, and a balanced player that can play run and pass. Just like Epenesa, he showed huge college production, but isn't an incredible athlete. If he was, the Bills wouldn't have got him at 30 anyways. The way the board fell, top corners gone, top RBs gone, it came down to three picks to me - Moore, Barmore and Samuel Jr. All guys graded in that 88-90 range. Bills picked another DE, and now it's clear that they need speed offensive player and cornerback. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Play 3. He is in coverage. Tell me some more about the poor athletic profile. https://youtu.be/K7tLBK7akVY he decided to play it safe there last second lol, thought that had pick 6 all over it. nice play tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Jack DeJohnette says "yaawwwn" I give you, Exhibt A. Oh wait... 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I do think having an edge guy that can set the edge in run defense and clean things up when the initial pressure forces the QB to move is important and something that we lacked this past year. We still need that initial rusher long-term though as I don't really think that's Epenesa. Still some intriguing guys that could fit that criteria available though. I really hope we double dip on edge guys the way Tampa did with corners a couple years ago when they took Sean Murphy-Bunting and Jamel Dean back to back on day 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Jack DeJohnette says "yaawwwn" How bout some Buddy Rich? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I'm looking forward to seeing this guy routinely swat the ball out of the quarterbacks' hands. Excited to watchin him and see what he can do against NFL talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: How bout some Buddy Rich? As much as I love Neil, Buddy was the greatest drummer to ever live. (Neil is #2 for me). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I’m not a “tape dog” but watching his highlights I can tell one thing that I’m sure the Bills love about him: he keeps his head up and he watches the football. How do you stop Mahomes? Keeping in the lane, and watching the football. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Draconator said: As much as I love Neil, Buddy was the greatest drummer to ever live. (Neil is #2 for me). If we can get a defensive lineman on the Bills with as quick of hands as Buddy Rich, then we're set 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Reminds me of Shaw Lawson a bit, who I always liked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 This pick makes me wish we took Dobbins last year instead of Epenesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This guy reminds me EXACTLY of Chandler Jones (6'5 265). When the Pats drafted Chandler Jones 21st out of Syracuse I laughed because I thought he would be an immediate bust. He looked slow as molasses on film and had a bad pro day. The tape just looked BAD. However, he has the same "long strider" build and technique as Rousseau. It doesn't look twitchy or high-punch, but every long step gets him closer to the QB faster. As we all know, Chandler went on to be a 3x pro-bowler and league sack leader, garnering 10+ sacks the last 5 years in a row. Maybe I'm drinking the cool-aid, but they look really, really similar. I don't really see that. Jones was a much more refined player. More explosive athlete in short bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 The more I learn about him, the more perfect he is as a Beane selection. Not a flashy signing -every single damn one of you who wastes your time -and OURS -posting irrelevant mocks missed this, which certainly isn’t unusual.. Back to the last time we had routine playoff teams, our late pick yields were very impressive as well ie; Phil Hanson, John Fina, JD Williams, Henry Jones.. not sayin’, juss sayin’.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Beane has not earned my trust when it comes to the defense, so I’m skeptical of the pick, especially with who was still on the board...time will tell... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 If we’re looking for player comps, his physical profile is a slightly longer Carlos Dunlap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: This pick makes me wish we took Dobbins last year instead of Epenesa Nah, if we could go back to back years nabbing our DEs of future in Epenesa and Rousseau, then imho that is 100% the way to go Heck, we could still end up with Jevonte Williams in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: If we’re looking for player comps, his physical profile is a slightly longer Carlos Dunlap I think edge it’s more jpp and inside he reminds me of Deforest Buckner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF2006 said: Shouldn't you be sleeping? Its already Saturday there Right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 32 solo tackles, 14 asst, 46 total tkls, 21 for a loss, 16.5 sacks - 6'5" 264lbs, 10" hand, 80.5" wing span - 4.94 40 dash*, 27 reps on bench 34 solo tackles, 20 asst, 54 total tkls, 19.5 for a loss, 15.5 sacks - 6'7" 265lbs, 11" hand, 83" wing span - 4.68 40 dash, 21 reps on bench Top is Chase Young the bottom is a raw and young Rousseau - stats for 2019 Not saying he's Chase Young but the upside is as big as he is!! Love the pick!!! Edited April 30, 2021 by FlaFitz1 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Beane has not earned my trust when it comes to the defense, so I’m skeptical of the pick, especially with who was still on the board...time will tell... Ya, him and Mcd have done a great job with the secondary. But a lot of misses in the front 7- Through mostly free agency mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 More I looks into it, I’m loving this pick. This kid is a freak. One year playing DE and recorded 15.5 sacks. I mean numbers don’t lie. 6”6 266lbs you can’t coach size. This could be a grand slam. Most mocks had him as a top 5 pick in this years draft before he opted out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: i think this is the issue. we need a day 1 contributor. Perhaps the Bills saw no one there at 30 and took a potential huge year 2 contributor. That’s what Beane said he was looking to do, this pick should come as no surprise in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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