Estro Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Was listening to spotrac's most recent podcast w/ Mike Ginnitti & he casually mentioned he thinks Singletary is a trade candidate this offseason maybe even draft weekend. Normally I'd just pass this off as speculation, but in listening to Ginnitti over the past few months it's pretty clear that he's got some connections. He was talking about Trubisky possibly signing as a backup in Buffalo a few days before it happened. It seems a lot of his "ideas" on his podcast seem to come true, which makes it must listen for me. He also mentioned that Breida might be viewed as a starter in Buffalo, which I found interesting. I happen to like the idea of trading Singletary because I just dont think he does anything well enough to not want to replace. I'm not sure he'd be worth much of anything & I think the Bills would be fortunate to get anything more than a future 6th-7th rounder for him. Just found it interesting that he casually mentioned Singletary as a trade candidate......after hearing it from his lips I now fully expect Singletary to be moved. Hopefully it's a lesson learned for the Bills to stop blowing valuable top 100 draft picks on replacement level RBs. Edited April 12, 2021 by Estro 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I am 70% sure that Singletary, Moss and Breida are the RB's this team is going with. I think McBeane will focus heavily on the defense via the draft. I think 2 out of the 3 top picks will be on the defensive side of the ball and I can't see them burning a pick at RB in the first 5 rounds. I can live with the young cheap backfield. The issue this team has running is in my mind more attributed to scheme and injuries along the O-line. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I could see see us packaging Singletary with a draft pick to move up in the 2nd or 3rd round... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I am 70% sure that Singletary, Moss and Breida are the RB's this team is going with. I think McBeane will focus heavily on the defense via the draft. I think 2 out of the 3 top picks will be on the defensive side of the ball and I can't see them burning a pick at RB in the first 5 rounds. I can live with the young cheap backfield. The issue this team has running is in my mind more attributed to scheme and injuries along the O-line. I think your 70% is probably too low, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I think it comes down to whether Buffalo dtafts a back day 1 or 2. I doubt it but possible none the less. If one is drafted I expect Singeltary would be the odd man out. A possible trade up or future day 2 pick I assume he would be worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Yes. Moss and Singletary will be the primary ball carriers this year, and will be effective. Giving up on third round picks after two seasons hasn’t been the M.O. of this front office. PARTICULARLY when the player showed a lot of promise in one of those years. Motor gonna prove some people wrong this year, methinks. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I think your 70% is probably too low, for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I put 70% because I do think there is a decent chance that in round 1 or 2 there is an RB that falls and is by far the BPA on the board. I just don't see it likely shaking out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 If they go RB at 30 i think he’ll be cut or traded. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: If they go RB at 30 i think he’ll be cut or traded. I’ll go out on a limb and say there is ZERO percent chance they cut a guy who averaged 4.8 ypc in his first two years, including 4.4 ypc in his “bad year”. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 This year yes, assuming we don't draft one at 30(which I don't think they will). Next year is a different story though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 singletary is a lock to be on bills roster this season. trades for RB's are so rare in NFL...and i can't see anyone giving up a 3rd rounder or better. i say he gets another full season to prove his worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I swear it's like half the people on this site already forgot he went for 5 yards a carry when we actually had decent run blocking. Edited April 12, 2021 by gobills404 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 With Breida, Singletary, and Moss, the Bills have three very similar style, and size RBs. What we lack is a true power back, although Moss would be the closest thing to that in this trio. Moss is also an exceptional blocker-- much better than Singletary in that department. Breida has the acceleration that both Moss, and Singletary lack. It pains me to say that in my opinion, Singletary is likely the most redundant of the three. I'm also of the opinion that improvements in the running game (including O-line blocking) is the Bills most pressing need on offense. I would love for the Bills to draft a heavier power back (Najee Harris?), or pick one up in FA who can consistently move the pile downhill, and not get stuffed, as Moss, and especially Singletary often were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Yes, he will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I was correctly corrected saying he has zero value and nobody would ever trade for him. As Beane seems to get teams to bite on unrealistic trades. That said motor might get a 6th rounder in return. His value is extremely low coming off a bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Bills are a pass first team, I think going to be hard for any back to be effective unless it short yardage or pass catching out of the backfield and josh doesn't seem like a guy willing to check down a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He’s making vet minimum and RB’s always get banged up. Plus he’s got experience in the offense, isn’t a bad blocker and doesn’t fumble. Makes no sense to trade him unless Beane takes a RB high in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I swear it's like half the people on this site already forgot he went for 5 yards a carry when we actually had decent run blocking. i think the Bills FO realize this and really like DS. I think there’s 0% chance they move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) I think unless we are trading for a RB in the first round we have our three RB for the year already on team. I have no idea what they think of Najee or Etienne but Beane does not drop someone unless the better player is already on roster and right now he is top 3. He is a rookie contract guy who has gained 1500 yards in two years, definitely a good value for now. Edited April 12, 2021 by Buffalo Timmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Logic said: Yes. Moss and Singletary will be the primary ball carriers this year, and will be effective. Giving up on third round picks after two seasons hasn’t been the M.O. of this front office. PARTICULARLY when the player showed a lot of promise in one of those years. Motor gonna prove some people wrong this year, methinks. 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He's on his rookie contract. that alone makes him a keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I really hope we don't get rid of him. He's a fun player to watch, with some of the best on-field vision I've ever seen. Also, for a smaller guy, he's not shy at all to give the tackler a good "pop" before being brought down. We just need better run blocking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Maybe, maybe not. This falls into the too deep on the roster for me to predict. Probably anyone also as well. He isn't untouchable by any means, but to say say it's a done deal is a wild guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 There will be ma y disappointed people on April 29th when a RB is not selected and Singletary is a Bill in 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Estro said: Devin Singletary - Will he be playing for the Bills this year? 95% chance. EDIT: After re-thinking, it's a bit lower, maybe 80%. Weird stuff happens, but yes, he will. It'll come down to the draft. IMO the odds have risen a bit for picking an RB if more recent mocks are correct in guessing that most CBs, pass-rushing DEs, WRs worth the spot are gone, as well as guys like Barmore, Vera-Tucker, Owusu-Koramoah, Leatherwood, or a few others they might like. I put it around a 20% chance right now, which is higher than I'd figured before when how things seemed to be falling were a bit more favorable. Edited April 12, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Totally depends on the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 IF we could trade Singletary and like a 6th round pick for a 2nd round pick, I think that would work. We could draft or sign another RB to cover that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: Yes. Moss and Singletary will be the primary ball carriers this year, and will be effective. Giving up on third round picks after two seasons hasn’t been the M.O. of this front office. PARTICULARLY when the player showed a lot of promise in one of those years. Motor gonna prove some people wrong this year, methinks. Zay Jones was a 2nd round pick by McD and they gave up on him. I doubt Beane or McD would keep a player just because they drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, hjnick said: IF we could trade Singletary and like a 6th round pick for a 2nd round pick, I think that would work. We could draft or sign another RB to cover that spot. Lol. Maybe singletary and a 3rd plus a 6th next year 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Zay Jones was a 2nd round pick by McD and they gave up on him. I doubt Beane or McD would keep a player just because they drafted him. As well as Wyatt Teller. That didn’t work out so well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Zay Jones was a 2nd round pick by McD and they gave up on him. I doubt Beane or McD would keep a player just because they drafted him. Each situation is unique. For one thing, Jones was drafted prior to the arrival of the GM who traded him away. For another, the team got a new quarterback and decided that the WR skillset they coveted most to pair with said QB was not one possessed by Jones. In any case, you'll have to forgive me if I don't see the Bills throwing in the towel on a third year 3rd round pick who has averaged 4.8 ypc in his young career. It would likely involve spending a 1st round pick on a running back, then turning around and trading Singletary away -- when his value is at its lowest -- for a late round pick. It just doesn't feel like logical roster building or a smart use of resources. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I don't think we are drafting a running back after the Breida signing. I could see us moving Singletary during training camp if Williams flashes during camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Page 2 and nobody has suggested bundling him with Edmunds yet? You guys are slipping. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 WHat could Singletary realistically fetch in a trade? He ran for 687 yards and 2 TD, has yet to crack 1,000 yard season. Maybe a 5th rounder if were lucky, I just think he's been under utilized here due to our QB. Most RB's need the carries to get going and he just doesn't get enough and now with Moss and now Breida in the fold it will be more of the same. He means more to us imo than some mid to late round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Estro said: Was listening to spotrac's most recent podcast w/ Mike Ginnitti & he casually mentioned he thinks Singletary is a trade candidate this offseason maybe even draft weekend. Normally I'd just pass this off as speculation, but in listening to Ginnitti over the past few months it's pretty clear that he's got some connections. He was talking about Trubisky possibly signing as a backup in Buffalo a few days before it happened. It seems a lot of his "ideas" on his podcast seem to come true, which makes it must listen for me. He also mentioned that Breida might be viewed as a starter in Buffalo, which I found interesting. I happen to like the idea of trading Singletary because I just dont think he does anything well enough to not want to replace. I'm not sure he'd be worth much of anything & I think the Bills would be fortunate to get anything more than a future 6th-7th rounder for him. Just found it interesting that he casually mentioned Singletary as a trade candidate......after hearing it from his lips I now fully expect Singletary to be moved. Hopefully it's a lesson learned for the Bills to stop blowing valuable top 100 draft picks on replacement level RBs. Yes, as a backup to McCaffrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWK Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 We probably will not get rid of him, but he is on a short leash. People seem to forget he got benched during the Kansas City game. I don’t think we should give up on him, but he does have some serious limitations, like his slow speed. I wouldn’t hate drafting the right RB at some point, and Singletary is not going to stop them from doing it if there is a running back they like somewhere in the draft. If we don’t draft a running back, he needs to have a better season or he will be gone after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I could see see us packaging Singletary with a draft pick to move up in the 2nd or 3rd round... I was thinking along those lines. I believe at the present moment, Motor is 100% in the Bills plans. But I also believe that despite all the work in FA, Beane does have his eyes on specific players, and if the opportunity arises to move around in the draft by trading player/picks and he feels it would help us obtain one of those players, he'll do what he has to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MWK said: We probably will not get rid of him, but he is on a short leash. People seem to forget he got benched during the Kansas City game. I don’t think we should give up on him, but he does have some serious limitations, like his slow speed. I wouldn’t hate drafting the right RB at some point, and Singletary is not going to stop them from doing it if there is a running back they like somewhere in the draft. If we don’t draft a running back, he needs to have a better season or he will be gone after this year. Short leash? Barring something crazy, he will be here thru his rookie deal. The guy has averaged 4.8 YPC in his first 2 years! We are not a track team, we are a football team. If you average 4.8 YPC you are a good NFL RB. IF our line and scheme can be tweaked and he can get back above the 5 YPC he had as a rookie, this will be a funny thread to look back upon. Edited April 12, 2021 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Motor won’t be the starter when this team goes to a SB, because we won’t make it to one if he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, The Governor said: Motor won’t be the starter when this team goes to a SB, because we won’t make it to one if he is. He can certainly be a player on a SB team. He can play for the Bills, and we can contend, as was proven. He’s not the reason we didn’t beat the Chiefs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I could see see us packaging Singletary with a draft pick to move up in the 2nd or 3rd round... Good, I hope that's exactly what we do. Breida will be our RB1 and Moss will sub. Devin was underwhelming last season whether you want to blame him or the OL. We have to upgrade this running attack or teams will just ignore our RB's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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