It’s official. The New York Jets legendarily suck!

[Governor]

Guys, he called a Cover 0 on the last play of the game. It’s kinda obvious what’s going on isn’t it?

[Mr. WEO]

This makes no sense at all.

[frostbitmic]

Doug Marrone will probably get his dream job next year.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I have a feeling the NFL will do something to make sure this doesn't happen again and will probably have a lottery type system in place because of the Jets. This is the most blatant tank job that the NFL has ever seen.

[ngbills]

Isn’t almost easier to lose and be able to say “we know that we do didn’t want to win”. Almost a free pass to suck. 

33 minutes ago, The Governor said:

Guys, he called a Cover 0 on the last play of the game. It’s kinda obvious what’s going on isn’t it?

And as the stats show - never has that been called in that type of situation in the history it has been tracked. 

[BillsfaninSB]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

Players and coaches don’t tank. 

 

 

PERIOD. 

 

 

 

Front office?  That’s another story. 

 

 

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Absolutely correct.   Game tape is their resume.  It lasts forever.  And no one wants 0-16 next to their name. 

[Da webster guy]

If they are trying to lose it will come out from the players, they're the only ones who would know and actually say something.

 

makes no sense because the coaches are all getting fired though.

[BornAgainBillsFan]

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it's the Jets.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Da webster guy said:

If they are trying to lose it will come out from the players, they're the only ones who would know and actually say something.

 

makes no sense because the coaches are all getting fired though.

Yeah, the players and coaches played the Raiders tough. They are clearly trying. They had a goal line stand earlier.

 

The way you tank is by getting rid of talent. There's no incentive for a player to not try his hardest. He would be putting bad tape of himself out there and that could lead to missed opportunities. Similar with coaches. Coaches almost never survive a tank, so why would they play along and assist in themselves getting fired?

 

Now, when it's clear you suck I can see the effort of players and coaches waning because then all you have to play for is pride, and sometimes that isn't meaningful enough. But they are too competitive to go out there and try to lose.

 

The Jets suck. Their players and coaches aren't motivated or happy, I'm sure. The writing is on the wall that everything is about to get blown up.

[JetsFan20]

It’s absurd to think Williams/Jets purposely tanked on that last series. As one poster mentioned, they had a RZ stand on the previous drive. Why weren’t they tanking then?
 

Take it for what it was. An awful defensive play from a coach that his known for letting his ego get the best of him. 
 

If any team Is tanking its Jacksonville by electing to play Mike Glennon over Minshew who is clearly the better option. 

[JetsFan20]

2 hours ago, billsfan714 said:

There hasn't been a tank this obvious since the Pens and Mario.   AFC East gonna have two guys who have won national championships and Josh......Pats to be determined.

Just not seeing it. I actually give the players and coaches a lot of credit. They are playing hard every week. I’ve been waiting for a give up type performance, but it hasn’t happened. 
 

Also the Jets are mostly healthy. It’s not as if it’s a roster littered with guys not playing. 
 

The Jets are 0-12 because they are simply not good. They are baron at some key positions (CB, LB, TE) and getting mostly terrible QB play. Obviously the play calling also leaves a lot to be desired. 
 

They have also have not caught a break from a scheduling standpoint. Constantly getting teams coming off a loss down the stretch which mitigates the chance for a letdown game. 
 

It’s hard to see a path to victory the next two weeks on the road vs Seattle and the Rams who are neck and neck for the division title. Beyond that you have the Browns at home and finish up on the road vs the Pats. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Anyone else worried the jets draft lawrence and he turns out to be great, then the patriots get darnold or Wentz and they succeed under good coaching? I know slim chances but these could happen.

Why would you worry about what another team might do? Jets are going to draft very highly rated prospects. They've been drafting highly rated prospects. Nothing we can do about it. 

[Chandler#81]

40 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:

Just not seeing it. I actually give the players and coaches a lot of credit. They are playing hard every week. I’ve been waiting for a give up type performance, but it hasn’t happened. 
 

Also the Jets are mostly healthy. It’s not as if it’s a roster littered with guys not playing. 
 

The Jets are 0-12 because they are simply not good. They are baron at some key positions (CB, LB, TE) and getting mostly terrible QB play. Obviously the play calling also leaves a lot to be desired. 
 

They have also have not caught a break from a scheduling standpoint. Constantly getting teams coming off a loss down the stretch which mitigates the chance for a letdown game. 
 

It’s hard to see a path to victory the next two weeks on the road vs Seattle and the Rams who are neck and neck for the division title. Beyond that you have the Browns at home and finish up on the road vs the Pats. 

Maybe they have Barons, Earls & Dukes at some positions, but they’re BARREN everywhere else.

 

Bolded Line is simply ridiculous. Get it through your head, son. They SUCK! -regardless of their opponents predicaments. 

[BaaadThingsMan]

Entirely possible Gregg Williams did that on purpose

[GETTOTHE50]

The jets 0-16 will be a worse than the browns 0-16. That organization has no talent or direction whether it be on the field or in the front office. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by GETTOTHE50

[simpleman]

Seems like a lot of former professional wrestling fans who believed that the sport was legit also follow football. No one would ever tank, yeah, sure. The NFL is a business. Money is what counts to the owners, not the sport. The coaches do what their bosses tell them to, or they get the word spread to the other owners that the don't do as they are told. Not good if you want to keep working in the league. Maybe players don't tank, but coaches put players in the right places and situations to succeed and motivate them to succeed. The opposite is true. Don't help motivate them, or put the wrong people, in the wrong places, at the wrong times, and bad moral effects the team and the individuals on the team. The tank is in!

Edited December 7, 2020 by simpleman

[Thurman#1]

No.

 

It's directly against the interests of the players and coaches to show poorly.

 

The GM is the only one who can think this way.

 

To think Gase isn't trying is nuts. He's going to be looking for a job. If he looks like a bad coach, he's less likely to get hired.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Thurman#1

[nucci]

5 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

My goodness I know Henry Ruggs is fast but that DB literally just let him go right past him it literally looked like the Jets where point shaving out there 

blitz and leave one on one coverage on last play of the game. Coaches should have been fired right then

[CommonCents]

Whatever that was it looked amateurish. The NFL protects its brand. I would be shocked if no one gets fired this week from the Jets staff. 

[Albanybillsbacker]

You stay classy Greg Williams.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

Doug Marrone will probably get his dream job next year.

Dean of the School of Media Relations at Harvard?

[Rochesterfan]

6 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

That was not a Hail Mary.  It was a deep ball to you your best receiver who was inexplicably left in single coverage against a marginal CB.  

 

Except that is exactly what a Hail Mary is - the difference was typically teams have 8 guys back there so everything becomes a scrum.

 

In this case the prayer was answered because for the first time a DC sent 8 guys blitzing - so instead of a scrum of guys - it was no different than a pass in the first half.

 

A Hail Mary would almost always look like that sans the extra DBs clogging the area.

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, CommonCents said:

Whatever that was it looked amateurish. The NFL protects its brand. I would be shocked if no one gets fired this week from the Jets staff. 

Why would you fire anyone now when you are so close to the #1 pick and have coaching staff willing to do it with you.

 

This was done on purpose to lose.

Edited December 7, 2020 by TBBills

[Beast]

5 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Why would you fire anyone now when you are so close to the #1 pick and have coaching staff willing to do it with you.

 

This was done on purpose to lose.

 

It was not done on purpose to lose.

 

If that was the case the Jets would have let them score when they were in the redzone inside of 2 minutes.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Beast

[TBBills]

I am just glad the Bills do not have to play them. They seem like they are going to get someone hurt on another team with the way they are playing right now.

Just now, Beast said:

 

It was not done on purpose to lose.

 

If that was the case the Jets would have let them score when they were in the redzone inside of 2 minutes.

It was done on purpose.

[Beast]

Just now, TBBills said:

 

It was done on purpose.

 

No. No it wasn't. No matter how many times you say it was. Anyone that knows football understands that.

[TBBills]

4 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

No. No it wasn't. No matter how many times you say it was. Anyone that knows football understands that.

Yes anyone that knows football understands it was.  Greg has never called a play like that ever in his history when in those circumstances. In fact that is the first time that play has ever happened since those stats have been recorded. 

 

You can have your opinion but I will look at everything else and see that the only reason they have not been fired is b.c they are doing their job and the owner wants them to lose out.

 

If the Jags win another game the Jets might try to win 1 but right now they don't want to lose out.

Why put an undrafted FA rookie on their best WR? So he can get caught by the double move and let them score.

Edited December 7, 2020 by TBBills

[Beerball]

All I want for Chirstmas is to see Gregggg Williams become the first NFL coach to be part of TWO winless seasons.  Couldn't happen to a bigger supercilious anal orifice. 

[Chandler#81]

54 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Yes anyone that knows football understands it was.  Greg has never called a play like that ever in his history when in those circumstances. In fact that is the first time that play has ever happened since those stats have been recorded. 

 

You can have your opinion but I will look at everything else and see that the only reason they have not been fired is b.c they are doing their job and the owner wants them to lose out.

 

If the Jags win another game the Jets might try to win 1 but right now they don't want to lose out.

Why put an undrafted FA rookie on their best WR? So he can get caught by the double move and let them score.

Most everyone here knows football. So much so, we know you DON’T!

[TBBills]

21 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Most everyone here knows football. So much so, we know you DON’T!

You have proof of it being not done on purpose? Seems like plenty showing the opposite.

 

It's impossible to get a ***** coaching staff to help you get the #1 pick, that would go against football ethics...

Yea b.c that would never happen lol

 

Edited December 7, 2020 by TBBills

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Yes anyone that knows football understands it was.  Greg has never called a play like that ever in his history when in those circumstances. In fact that is the first time that play has ever happened since those stats have been recorded. 

 

You can have your opinion but I will look at everything else and see that the only reason they have not been fired is b.c they are doing their job and the owner wants them to lose out.

 

If the Jags win another game the Jets might try to win 1 but right now they don't want to lose out.

Why put an undrafted FA rookie on their best WR? So he can get caught by the double move and let them score.

Gregg has definitely blitzed in end of game situations before 

[Greg S]

2 hours ago, CommonCents said:

Whatever that was it looked amateurish. The NFL protects its brand. I would be shocked if no one gets fired this week from the Jets staff. 

 

Get ready to be shocked then. At 0-12 why would they fire anyone now and ruin their chances at the #1 pick. They will clean house after the season. I bet Gase doesn't even make it to "Black Monday". I bet on SNF's pregame show Florio will announce the Jets have fired Gase.

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Gregg has definitely blitzed in end of game situations before 

Never did anything like that and it has never been done in the NFL before than. He blitzed 8 guys.... He left the best WR to to 1 on 1 with a rookie FA CB... Everyone has their opinion we will find out months later b.c this stuff never stays secret.

Funny to see a team like the Jets purposely tanking and people hate them for it.

Edited December 7, 2020 by TBBills

[NoSaint]

16 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Never did anything like that and it has never been done in the NFL before than. He blitzed 8 guys.... He left the best WR to to 1 on 1 with a rookie FA CB... Everyone has their opinion we will find out months later b.c this stuff never stays secret.

Funny to see a team like the Jets purposely tanking and people hate them for it.

Gregg thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He was trying to surprise carr to get a sack since he had given up open shots into the end zone playing coverage. It was very much a Gregg move. 
 

just declaring it never done doesn’t make it true. Though if you keep throwing on ore qualifiers you may get there

[Bob in STL]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Except that is exactly what a Hail Mary is - the difference was typically teams have 8 guys back there so everything becomes a scrum.

 

In this case the prayer was answered because for the first time a DC sent 8 guys blitzing - so instead of a scrum of guys - it was no different than a pass in the first half.

 

A Hail Mary would almost always look like that sans the extra DBs clogging the area.

Nope.  One WR and one CB.  That is not a Hail Mary.  Just a simple stop-and-go pattern and a deep ball.  Not every long pass is a Hail Mary.  
 

A Hail Mary typically has multiple WRs going into one spot forcing multiple DBs to play there as well.  It is a chaos play and a prayer.  
 

The Jets played man coverage with no safety help.  The QB read the blitz, stepped up in the pocket, and hit a deep bomb, for an easy and uncontested catch in the end zone.    Greggo gambled on a sack and gave up the easy long pass. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by Bob in STL

[Don Otreply]

Teams lose on purpose every year, it has become quite apparent that the league doesn’t care if a team chooses to tank, as long as it is denied by team FOs, coaches etc, and not spoken of directly, outside of in a humorous fashion by sports show talking heads. Is what it is folks. 

[Rochesterfan]

6 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Nope.  One WR and one CB.  That is not a Hail Mary.  Just a simple stop-and-go pattern and a deep ball.  Not every long pass is a Hail Mary.  
 

A Hail Mary typically has multiple WRs going into one spot forcing multiple DBs to play there as well.  It is a chaos play and a prayer.  
 

The Jets played man coverage with no safety help.  The QB read the blitz, stepped up in the pocket, and hit a deep bomb, for an easy and uncontested catch in the end zone.    Greggo gambled on a sack and gave up the easy long pass. 

 

So does that mean the Hopkins play was not a Hail Mary as he was alone? One WR and one CB (it just happened that because it was the last play and the Bills played coverage - 2 safeties converged also).

 

The Difference between the Hopkins play and the Raiders play was the defense.  The Bills played coverage - so there were 3 guys deep forming the scrum.  The Jets blitzed leaving the DB one on one.

 

Would the Raider play have been a Hail Mary if there had been 2 additional deep safeties that converged on the catch?

 

 

[Ghost_002!]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Never did anything like that and it has never been done in the NFL before than. He blitzed 8 guys.... He left the best WR to to 1 on 1 with a rookie FA CB... Everyone has their opinion we will find out months later b.c this stuff never stays secret.

Funny to see a team like the Jets purposely tanking and people hate them for it.

 

I want to say it was on purpose too but if you go to Dan orlovsky twitter handle he has two similar situations where Greg Williams does zero blitz at the end of the game.

 

I even think there was a game against the steelers last year where they are in the exact situation with 15 seconds left and the Jets zero blitz the steelers..it worked that time

 

 

Think its a very stupid call either way...but whatever.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[H2o]

It wasn't the right defensive call, but Carr had just missed similar type of throw under duress to Agholor. The CB bit on the under route. Why? We'll never know. Then Ruggs with those 4.33 wheels just runs right by him with Carr dropping in the perfect ball. I'm sure those players are tired of losing as well as hearing about how bad their team is. I'm sure they were trying their hardest to finally get that monkey off of their backs of being a winless team. It didn't happen. 

[Real McClappy]

7 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

If they are trying to lose it will come out from the players, they're the only ones who would know and actually say something.

 

makes no sense because the coaches are all getting fired though.

They basically did from the Jets D players and Raiders O players after the game.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Real McNasty