HOUSE Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 One thing is clear, he does spend some time reading at TBD 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Im glad I didn't take the trade for doughnuts and pretzels. I would like the hot dogs though. I will take AJ Klein over that deal now I think the poster was a fast food seller short some goods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) LBs play better when the system around them is working. Everybody does, really. Our defensive system has been limping into some kind of shape the past three weeks or so. Edited November 9, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I’d trade him for the girl who works the fry-o-lator at the concession stand with the big jugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 19 hours ago, High Football IQ said: Edmunds clearly had his best game of the season today, might even have been the best game of his young career. Just hope that what we saw today from both Klein and Edmunds wasn't anomaly and they revert back the previous eight games because still think this team is going to need thier defense to round the corner to have any real chance in the playoffs. That pressure game plan against Russ brings out the best in all our top defensive guys. Not only AJ and Edmunds but Hughes, Addison and Murphy, benefit from that aggressive style. The approach against Murray should definitely be the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Oh, and which defense is top-10 in sacks right now with 30? THIS TEAMS DEFENSE, baby. "Has Not Aged Well" 🏆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, and which defense is top-10 in sacks right now with 30? THIS TEAMS DEFENSE, baby. "Has Not Aged Well" 🏆 Is it just me, or does Klein always look hungover as hell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, and which defense is top-10 in sacks right now with 30? THIS TEAMS DEFENSE, baby. "Has Not Aged Well" 🏆 You could pay off your mortgage if you put a few bucks on that before the season. I’ll give them credit, we know what he can’t do (run and cover), but the coaches put him in a position to be successful. That’s what GOOD coaches do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Bender when you made this thread we are all right there with you based on his performance and our fondness of Doughnuts, pretzels and hot dogs. What a glorious name for a thread that so soon after the guy has become so solid for us. I love it! Go Bills! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Nice necro-bump. Should warn against knee-jerk reactions and also point out that it often takes more time than we think to see how well a guy can fit a system. However, it won't. Making conclusions too early here is widely prevalent. Edited December 2, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I vote the OP for GM. Of any other AFCE team of his or her choosing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I vote the OP for GM. Of any other AFCE team of his or her choosing. it could have been any of us that started this thread. There but for the grace of God go I. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it could have been any of us that started this thread. There but for the grace of God go I. No not any of us. Hyperbole like that should be mocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I loved it when McD backed up Klein after his bad game. Even the media were asking questions about him but McDermott will not sell out his guys and they know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Police Detective: “Now Mrs. Smith, please pick the suspect in the line-up who flashed you in the park?” Mrs. Smith: “that’s him, that’s him, in the blue shirt!!!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Nice necro-bump. Should warn against knee-jerk reactions and also point out that it often takes more time than we think to see how well a guy can fit a system. However, it won't. Making conclusions too early here is widely prevalent. Well, I do feel like people have come full circle. Everyone seems to think Klein is amazing. But if he has a another bad game they'll crucify him again. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yeah....this didn’t age well for most of us, me included. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Well he’s our sack leader with 5 and the team is on pace for around 46 sacks. Not great, but also not horrible. It would be nice to rack up the pace with a much more aggressive style than they started in the beginning of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Well he’s our sack leader with 5 and the team is on pace for around 46 sacks. Not great, but also not horrible. It would be nice to rack up the pace with a much more aggressive style than they started in the beginning of the season. I think the Bills have found the best way to utilize his strengths. He has now become an asset for the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I reserve the right to take back all I said about Klein. I really don't think we should trade him for donuts now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it could have been any of us that started this thread. There but for the grace of God go I. Agree. I agreed with it when it was posted. Hope the REAL AJ is the player we saw the past few weeks, and not the sorry one we saw before the original post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 he's a better football player than i thought he was, so obv i was wrong about that. the corches have also adjusted how they use him to great effect tho. bill bellycheat is the king of that, only has guys do what they are capable of. he picks players based on his scheme, of course, but then he makes wrinkles and adjustments to maximize what he's got. im glad our guys did that too, but they are so stubborn sometimes, taking a lot of hits to the head against the wall before figuring out they can go around it. my football dream of 3 capable line backers on the field at the same time shouldn't feel so far fetched, considering we were top 3 on D w a 4-3 scheme the past two years, but what do i know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Glad we kept Klein and didn't end up with a few hostess, a Rold Gold, and a Ball Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I’ll count myself amongst those who threw Klein under the bus. Something happened a few weeks ago for sure. I’m sure someone who knows more about defensive strategy and technique could explain. It appears a light bulb went on. PS: The exact same thing had happened to Bass and pretty much right around the same week. Did they change the buffet table at OBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, CSBill said: I reserve the right to take back all I said about Klein. I really don't think we should trade him for donuts now. Wait... what kind of donuts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I lucked out, 👍 I didn’t run my pie hole on this one, 😁, can I now talk 💩 about how thoughtful I was not to say anything, 😂 , Good to see him utilized for success and for AJ to have upped his game! Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said: Wait... what kind of donuts? Right!? I like the way Klein has been playing, but I love me some Paula's.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ll count myself amongst those who threw Klein under the bus. Something happened a few weeks ago for sure. I’m sure someone who knows more about defensive strategy and technique could explain. It appears a light bulb went on. PS: The exact same thing had happened to Bass and pretty much right around the same week. Did they change the buffet table at OBD? Yup. They both got (more) comfortable in their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said: Wait... what kind of donuts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. They both got (more) comfortable in their roles. It has to be more than that with Klein. Early on he was taking some of the worst angles on tackles that I’ve ever seen. I wonder if not having an offseason hurt him. He’s a veteran and may have simply needed more time to get back ‘up to speed’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, CSBill said: I reserve the right to take back all I said about Klein. I really don't think we should trade him for donuts now. /slaps donut from CSBill's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Seems like Leslie and Sean realized we do not have the DLine to sit back and apply four man fronts effectively. We are blitzing a lot now and from several angles. Much more aggressive... and while the propensity to give up some big plays is likely as a result, it seems we are seeing a much more effective defense. I suspect the TO's and sacks will continue to sharply climb and we will end up top 5 in both, cause we know there are playmakers in that secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 You should all be ashamed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I can happily state I called him a round peg in a square hole kind of player earlier in this thread. He is not the same style as Milano but when used differently he can be a big asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) I’ll admit that I was harsh on Klein earlier this year. He just looked too slow and missed tackles. With Covid and playing a new position, I underestimated the learning curve he’d need joining a new team. While those first 4 weeks or so were pretty brutal, he’s been playing really great lately in Milano’s absence and has been a big part of the defensive turnaround. I’m happy to be wrong on him. Edited December 2, 2020 by TheProcess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Are donuts still on the table for Taron Johnson? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It has to be more than that with Klein. Early on he was taking some of the worst angles on tackles that I’ve ever seen. I wonder if not having an offseason hurt him. He’s a veteran and may have simply needed more time to get back ‘up to speed’. I believe he actually said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 57 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It has to be more than that with Klein. Early on he was taking some of the worst angles on tackles that I’ve ever seen. I wonder if not having an offseason hurt him. He’s a veteran and may have simply needed more time to get back ‘up to speed’. IMO....take with a grain of salt as I’m no expert....they were initially trying to plug Klein in for Milano. It didn’t work. Trying to fill the roles Milano filled kept him out of position and taking those bad angles. Add in trying to come up to speed in the defensive scheme had him needing to think too much, and it was fugly. Actually I think Frazier and McDermott pretty much confirmed all these things. So when it became clear Milano was not going to be able to come back for weeks, Frazier and company sat down and shuffled the deck. They carved out a role for Klein that played to Klein’s strengths and handed some of Milano’s responsibilities off to the secondary. In the meantime, Klein knocked the rust off and mastered the scheme to the point where he could play faster and more instinctive. I like Frazier and have no desire whatsoever to swap him for Schwartz as was suggested on another thread 🤮but IMO it’s a fair question why they didn’t do this earlier, like when Milano was initially injured. Daboll practically re-writes the offense every damned week, to the point where I wish he’d sometimes simplify a bit. It’s almost like Frazier waited to take action until maybe McDermott told him, “this is unacceptable, it has to change, how may I help you succeed here?” (Which for those who don’t know is best-managed behavior boss-speak for “Fix it now you *****up or I’ll toss your butt and get someone who can!”). I suppose there’s a downside in imposing change on the players. I think perhaps they thought they could coast on the offensive production and were taken aback when it fell off in week 5 and 6 and it was “oh, hey, yeah, we need the D to shoulder its load” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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