without a drought Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Maybe they could get a bag of donuts, a future pretzel and a conditional hot dog. But no one is giving up all of that at once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm sure you're correct that they weren't expecting AJ Klein to have to play this much, but if you're looking for a guy who can back up your starters - you need one who can, you know, actually BACK UP YOUR STARTERS It'd be ideal, right? Klein has been rough, but it's not like he doesn't know what he's doing out there. We've seen him hit the correct gap numerous times and he's regularly flying around the ball...but he seems to be allergic to tackling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, blacklabel said: It'd be ideal, right? Klein has been rough, but it's not like he doesn't know what he's doing out there. We've seen him hit the correct gap numerous times and he's regularly flying around the ball...but he seems to be allergic to tackling. Actually, while I don't claim expertise, I believe I've seen him hella out of position too much, especially when asked to drop into coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Actually, while I don't claim expertise, I believe I've seen him hella out of position too much, especially when asked to drop into coverage. Yeah that's why I said numerous instead of all the time haha. Sunday was brutal. A number of plays where I was just like, "Is he weak or something? He's got guys wrapped up and they just run right out of it, ugh." Hopefully Milano is off the pitch count this week and is a full go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 AJ Klein will make a comeback and you will all be very sorry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, HOUSE said: AJ Klein will make a comeback and you will all be very sorry To the contrary, if AJ Klein's play improves I would lead a parade for him! We can start at Lafayette Square (former site of KLEINhans men's clothing) and march to KLEINhans Music Hall. Music for the event will be chosen according to circumstance but my first choice would be Beyonce' "If you Like it...Put a Ring on It" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Yeah that's why I said numerous instead of all the time haha. Sunday was brutal. A number of plays where I was just like, "Is he weak or something? He's got guys wrapped up and they just run right out of it, ugh." Hopefully Milano is off the pitch count this week and is a full go. Unfortunately, BangedUpBills says 2-6 weeks, trending more towards the 6 week window. Milano is playing with a brace literally holding one arm down, which is hindering his tackling. We're coming up on 5 weeks this Sunday. I would say we might see increased snap counts (love ya @Shaw66) but he'll continue with the brace for several more weeks, which severely limits his effectiveness 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, without a drought said: Maybe they could get a bag of donuts, a future pretzel and a conditional hot dog. But no one is giving up all of that at once. Not even a conditional left over hot dog apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 What happened to AJ Klein? He wasn't a bad LB just a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What happened to AJ Klein? He wasn't a bad LB just a couple years ago. To be honest he was a bit too slow coming out of college. Never could quite match up, and with age it's been a cliff. Scheme didn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Music for the event will be chosen according to circumstance but my first choice would be Beyonce' "If you Like it...Put a Ring on It" I don't even know you, man! 🤨 *😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Turk71 said: This was entirely predictable, Klein has been pretty bad for 2 or 3 years now. A quality LB should have been found in FA. So we signed Klein in FA. Which of the available FA do you feel we should have gone after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So we signed Klein in FA. Which of the available FA do you feel we should have gone after? Someone much better.😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: What happened to AJ Klein? He wasn't a bad LB just a couple years ago. It's a mystery. 1. He was a reasonable backup for some big shoes playing up Kuechly in 2016 - but that was the Panther's "hangover season" where they went 6-10 2. He started as the RLB for 3 decent Saints defenses in 2017-2019. He was 8, 3, and 3 in combined tackles on the team; 9, 7, and 4 in solo tackles. Here are some thoughts, and maybe they might spur some of our contributors who know more of the details of defense to chime in. 1. The Saints, as far as I know, play closer to a true 4-3 defense? Demario Davis is the heart and soul of that defense and the leading tackler, the sideline-to-sideline speed guy. Klein's role, I think, was to stay home, set the edge, and thump what came near him as they attempted to avoid Davis. In the Bills defense last year with Edmunds playing better and Milano sideline to sideline, Klein may have looked like a capable swap for that part of Alexander's role in the Bills base 4-3 D 2. Asking him to play for Milano in the Bills true base 4-2-5 D, I think, is asking him to do something he has never done well. He has never had the speed to be a true sideline to sideline guy, nor the coverage skills of Milano. So he's kind of "playing out of position" and exposed. I'm not sure what the Bills thoughts on him were, bringing him in, but I think they may have conceptualized Dodson or Del'Shawn Phillips as the backups to Milano. Or, maybe he had more skill and speed 4 years ago when he last played for McDermott and McDermott's viewpoint is colored by the relatively ageless Alexander. 3. Everyone learning a system plays slower because they have to think. For a guy whose speed is marginal to start with, that could be the difference between adequate and "late to the fair". It is possible that as he becomes more comfortable in the system, he will play faster and be in the right place more often. 21 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Someone much better.😂 Yes, it's clear that's what you think, but it's a content-free response; who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, it's clear that's what you think, but it's a content-free response; who? Sorry, I couldn't help myself, too easy. There were many lbs I would have been happier with. What is the point of me looking back and naming them all? I said it was a bad signing when it happened. Klein was awful last year but they gave him a multiyear contract and overpaid. Do you think he was the only choice or one of the better choices out there? It was a bad move. Williams I was skeptical of, but that turned out to be a good move. Win some and lose some I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Sorry, I couldn't help myself, too easy. There were many lbs I would have been happier with. What is the point of me looking back and naming them all? I said it was a bad signing when it happened. Klein was awful last year but they gave him a multiyear contract and overpaid. Do you think he was the only choice or one of the better choices out there? It was a bad move. Williams I was skeptical of, but that turned out to be a good move. Win some and lose some I guess. The point is to demonstrate that the Bills, in fact, had opportunities to sign a better LB in FA which they passed up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Well we don't have that kind of insider info. I could list some of the top free agents but just because a guy is a free agent doesn't mean your team has a shot. I'm not saying they passed on better talent, I just felt strongly that Klein was washed and not worth 6 mil per. It would be interesting to know if they had other targets or if he was the one they wanted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Well we don't have that kind of insider info. I could list some of the top free agents but just because a guy is a free agent doesn't mean your team has a shot. I'm not saying they passed on better talent, I just felt strongly that Klein was washed and not worth 6 mil per. It would be interesting to know if they had other targets or if he was the one they wanted though. Right, exactly. We agree that Klein is "weak sauce" and we'd have liked the Bills to do better, but maybe Klein was the best FA the Bills could manage He actually didn't show signs of being "washed" last year, but I think even though nominally it's the same scheme (4-3) what the Bills need from a LB is actually quite different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 10:05 AM, benderbender said: Knee jerk reaction time. Has McBeane and Co whiffed as badly on defensive talent as much as they seem to have on AJ Klein? Have you got any offers for front office positions? Please take one with an opposition team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: Have you got any offers for front office positions? Please take one with an opposition team. Okay. But only because you said please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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