jkx2 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) If you feel the Bills will be at least a playoff team next year and therefore will draft again in the bottom part of the draft again next year. Would you give up next years 1st plus this years 4th to Bengals for #33 today and Andy Dalton. While Dalton wants to start there are few spots left and big name free agent QBs available. There are guys with 1st round grades st pass rusher, running and wide receiver out there. Any takers now? Edited April 24, 2020 by jkx2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 no 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No. Otherwise they wouldn't have a pick in the top 60 in 2021 You need to add one rookie starter every year. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Interesting. I’d be tempted to grab a corner like fulton or Johnson or DE gross-Matos who were considered 1st round talent by many then grab a RB at 54 but the risk is too high. If injuries hit us harder than the past two seasons combined with a seemingly tougher schedule that pick could be higher than people think. Edited April 24, 2020 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Since when the goal is get to the playoffs? if you only want a playoff run maybe, but that's not the goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No, Its short sighted. We have a very tough schedule and as much as I love this team and believe we will make the playoffs. Injuries happen If Josh goes down, we might win 5-7 games with Barkley and be picking in the top 10. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkx2 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, poblano said: Since when the goal is get to the playoffs? if you only want a playoff run maybe, but that's not the goal How about "at least" make playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 interesting idea. For me, it would have to be a game changing player. I'm not sure I see anyone like that on either side of the ball. Perhaps Delpit depending on his medical. Or JK Dobbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hail nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No. Apart from anything else, we don't know if there will be a season yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I might do it for Fulton. I have him as a mid first rd pick. I’m sure he and Tre a boys. He can play man just fine but will thrive in zone in the nfl imo. I wouldn’t do it for anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No. Cant punt on 1st round ELC players 2 straight years IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 JK, good question and I know you’re trying to help and keep the conversation going, but that is the problem with previous administrations. Too much quick fixes. Not piling on bud and glad you’re on the board. Think the long game and this administration more than any in over 20 years is doing just that. Look at their free agency acquisitions the last three years, jettisons (yes I know Beane wasn’t officially here, but they fired Whaley the day after the draft, and Beane really was involved in it as he was hired immediately after the draft). They are picking up players to fit needs, but making dumb decisions in spending in FA, and the draft is about making it easy to pick the right guys. Again, the long game. The Pegulas must have been impressed with them enough to give them free reign to build a team the right way. If we do this right, we could be a contender for not just this year, but many years to come. Until they prove me wrong they haven’t. Hey, no worries on the question at all. It was a good one. I as well as some of my friends on this board maybe, not definitely have seen a couple more pitches. Not into short fixes. Hope you guys are well up there as I heard there was a little snow. If it makes you guys feel better n FL, we have tornadoes, 60 mph gusts, and crappy weather. Heres to all of us this in the morning enjoying a great Saturday morning after tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 A good player will fall to them at 54. No need to do reach arounds to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No. This team isn’t in a place to do that yet. Stilling building and looking for some pieces. Don’t roll the dice like that yet. I would rather see where this team is after the season and then maybe reach up further in the first round next year to get another big time player!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Move up to select who? Every year there are trade up or trade down threads that never address the fundamental question of why and for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 If they have an early to mid first round grade on a player I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 People go nuts when you give up a future first to get a first round pick, and now you want to suggest doing it for a second round pick? Let's say that the Bills make it to the AFC championship game, that means that they wouldn't pick until around the 60th pick next year. No guy who is currently left is worth sitting out the first 60 picks next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) No. We were in the playoffs this year and we were 22nd. That's a huge fall from 22 down to the second round. There were still a good amount of impact players at 22 that we will probably need next year, like LB and Safety. Don't sacrifice the future. Edited April 24, 2020 by hjnick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Move up to select who? Every year there are trade up or trade down threads that never address the fundamental question of why and for what. The why is every thought needing its own thread these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, jkx2 said: If you feel the Bills will be a playoff team next year and therefore will draft again in the bottom part of the draft again next year. Would you give up next years 1st to be in the top 5 of today's 2nd round. It would give us one more piece this year and is there really a big difference in the bottom of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd? Would you mind not making clickbait titles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 No. Move up with trading some of the latter round picks but keep 2,3 and 4 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: I might do it for Fulton. I have him as a mid first rd pick. I’m sure he and Tre a boys. He can play man just fine but will thrive in zone in the nfl imo. I wouldn’t do it for anyone else. Short arms but I like him (no trade up though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I thought this was going to be another thread where a teacher's mugshot was posted. Gotta love posters going for the click-bait thread titles. It's all the rage now. I guess you got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, jkx2 said: If you feel the Bills will be a playoff team next year and therefore will draft again in the bottom part of the draft again next year. Would you give up next years 1st to be in the top 5 of today's 2nd round. It would give us one more piece this year and is there really a big difference in the bottom of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd? It's not a crazy idea, and the value is about right. You do it if there are guys you really like who are still on the board, you expect to draft late next year, and you aren't sold on the 2021 draft class (believe me, the Bills already have a pretty good idea what the 2021 class is going to look like). You don't do it if you have any serious doubt that Josh Allen is your franchise QB. 28 minutes ago, Buddo said: No. Apart from anything else, we don't know if there will be a season yet. Isn't that a good reason to want an extra premium pick this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Edited April 24, 2020 by Mickey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. Otherwise they wouldn't have a pick in the top 60 in 2021 You need to add one rookie starter every year. . OK. But what's wrong with adding an another starter this year? 8 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: No. Move up with trading some of the latter round picks but keep 2,3 and 4 this year. How do you think that would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, jkx2 said: If you feel the Bills will be a playoff team next year and therefore will draft again in the bottom part of the draft again next year. Would you give up next years 1st to be in the top 5 of today's 2nd round. It would give us one more piece this year and is there really a big difference in the bottom of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd? a 1st round pick to move up in 2nd round? Come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Give up a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, nucci said: a 1st round pick to move up in 2nd round? Come on He’s not talking about moving up. I think he’s talking about keeping 54 and buying one of the first 5 picks this afternoon. That’s a fair trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, mannc said: It's not a crazy idea, and the value is about right. You do it if there are guys you really like who are still on the board, you expect to draft late next year, and you aren't sold on the 2021 draft class (believe me, the Bills already have a pretty good idea what the 2021 class is going to look like). You don't do it if you have any serious doubt that Josh Allen is your franchise QB. Isn't that a good reason to want an extra premium pick this year? Not really, because the whole premise of 'win now' falls over if there are no games to win. If you were talking about giving up a next year 1st to go with another 1st to get a generational talent, then fair enough. But for just another 2nd round pick, who might not be ready to go if a season does start - I really don't think so. We might have a different idea of what a 'premium pick' consists of, because the top of the 2nd round isn't it for me. Top 15 of the First Round, that's a 'premium pick'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, MJS said: Give up a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick? Why? A first next year is the going rate for a second this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Oh, hail gnaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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