NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, EXACTLY what happened is that he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week, and the team decided not only to fine him, but to embarrass him with a ridiculously unprofessional public spectacle. What the hell sort of a (*^*&%^$^#organization publishes employee punishments on a big-screen TV? I mean...people here think that's okay? That it's an appropriate management practice? I mean, it’s insane in a standard workplace but I also don’t get pumped full of painkillers or have my boss curse at me as one might see in an nfl locker room. I’ve never had a Ritchie incognito at the desk next to me. and I’d say that it’s not the only locker room doing this it wouldn’t be my own leadership choice but I’m highly skeptical this is a Gase original idea from what we’ve heard through the years i enjoy he got Darryl Roberts spot blown up by not effectively covering his name on the list below his fine and also posted their home hotel info too though ? Edited November 15, 2019 by NoSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Adam Gase is God’s gift to the Bills after years of disappointment. This is his way of throwing us a bone 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I'm guessing if Phillips got fined, the Bills organizations wouldn't publicly embarrass him along with it. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 garbage teams but CLE has some scary players If we don't beat PIT we don't deserve to be in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Yeah, is that common practice? No, Damien Woody said on twitter that it's not common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Regardless of how much he may have been in the wrong or not, blasting a player's fine on a screen like that is ridiculously absurd. So unprofessional. It reminds me of some fresh out of college sales floors I was on in the early 2000's, and those were horrible, doomed to fail organizations just like the Jets. I wonder if they let the well-behaved Jets tap a keg at 4:30 on Fridays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: No, Damien Woody said on twitter that it's not common. the flip side that comes to mind is a guy like Gregg Williams publicly (at least publicly in their house) fining guys for a variety of arbitrary offenses he made up outside the CBA (but including being late or missing events) to fund his “bounties” across several teams. publicly taking money out of a guys pocket for not following the program is not unheard of. Again, not that greggs who I’m looking to for leadership but commenting on whether it’s unusual in this setting Edited November 15, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Cue the bootlickers that will defend the team on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Crikey!! Whoda thought this would make it out on Insta-Face? At least this one dropped after I already got my job guarantee for next year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Straight out of the great team building hand book... Praise in private, discipline in public... do I have that right? Culture does not matter - incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I feel like there’s so much context with these things, and as an employer, when stuff like this happens, and it’s someone who’s been with you for a while and they’re dependable, and for some reason they don’t call or show, you call or shoot them a text “hey, everything ok? Did you know you were supposed to be here?” Yes, they should know they’re supposed to be there, yes they should call, but life can be sh*t and life happens a lot, to all of us. And then to post the fine on a board like that for everyone to see... petty. I just don’t think Douglas/Gase carry themselves properly for leading any organization (whether it be the Jets, your local Walmart, or a neighborhood diner). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: When you boil it down this is EXACTLY what happened. Then he comes back and plays the victim. Do things the way you knew they needed to be done and none of this happens. +1. He took his veteran wife out to lunch... Show some heart! I wonder what the other "family emergency" was? Bobby Brady put too much laundry soap in the washing machine and went off to do homework? The Housekeeper at his palatial estate couldn't handle it... Now gonna take a 30 grand pay cut. Edited November 15, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, DC Tom said: No, EXACTLY what happened is that he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week, and the team decided not only to fine him, but to embarrass him with a ridiculously unprofessional public spectacle. What the hell sort of a (*^*&%^$^#organization publishes employee punishments on a big-screen TV? I mean...people here think that's okay? That it's an appropriate management practice? If it was consistent with team practices than he knew what was going to happen. His actions led to the outcome. Maybe the punishment was excessive but allowing the player a pass only leads to more actions of the same. I am not familiar with the player and how mush his salary is. How big is that fine in percentage to his pay? Where is the TV? Who sees that? Having said that I do believe Jets have a culture and locker room issue that seems to be growing under Gase not getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WideRightRevenge Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Look what showing up for facial expression rehab treatments has done for this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 He shouldn’t have to be there? He’s collecting a fat paycheck, right? Yeah, you gotta be there dude. Just like the rest of us that are doing a job for a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 hours ago, MJS said: Crazy they just post stuff like that on a big screen for everyone to see. Elementary school type *****. Putting your name on the board for misbehaving. I love the jets being the jets.. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Quincy made a few catches like 4 years ago when Fitz was there and everyone was saying he’s some emerging 1/2 receiver. Since then he’s been dinged up every other play and has done nothing. This post should secure his exit from the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I don't like the public display of player fines. From my perspective, this is a cold and cowardly way of dealing with an issue. However, I would like to hear the Teams position on why Enunwa was fined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hard to make a call on this when we only got one side of things! Glad it’s not a Bills player saying this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 hours ago, DC Tom said: No, EXACTLY what happened is that he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week, and the team decided not only to fine him, but to embarrass him with a ridiculously unprofessional public spectacle. What the hell sort of a (*^*&%^$^#organization publishes employee punishments on a big-screen TV? I mean...people here think that's okay? That it's an appropriate management practice? Praise in public, discipline in private. Seems like a basic tenet of good leadership to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 So he didn't get the punishment of his choice? Welcome to the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The issue isn’t who is “right” or “wrong”. Osemele might not have been “right” either. It’s that they have players who want to put the team on blast. There is purpose behind that. And that onunwa said teammates told him it was ***** go. Perception is everything. I think those are two very different situations. One player is pissed because he sees the fine he got as excessive even though he acted in a way that he knew could lead to said fine. Whatevs. The other guy had his team (the Jest) falsify his medical documents in order to trick him into getting back on the field despite the fact that doing so would jeopardize his health and career. You can see the pull the NFL has with the media. That should’ve been a major story. Edited November 15, 2019 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Quincy is playing on people's emotions here, with the vet wife thing and the injury sad sap story. It works because you should feel bad for a guy who has had serious neck injuries playing for the team, but the bottom line is he came back to the team, accepted their checks, and knew what was required of him to earn the checks. He cant no call no show. On the Gase thing, its pretty obvious he is too stubborn and prideful to see that he shouldnt be doing anything similar to what he did in Miami. The Jets deserve this garbage for bringing in a losing coach who obviously bought into his own press after Peyton Manning made him look like a genius. If the Johnson's were smart they would fire Gase at the end of the season and go through a huge purge of me first guys from their roster. Edited November 15, 2019 by thenorthremembers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Someone upset for Skipping work without notifying the employer. OOO Well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 10 hours ago, NoSaint said: the flip side that comes to mind is a guy like Gregg Williams publicly (at least publicly in their house) fining guys for a variety of arbitrary offenses he made up outside the CBA (but including being late or missing events) to fund his “bounties” across several teams. publicly taking money out of a guys pocket for not following the program is not unheard of. Again, not that greggs who I’m looking to for leadership but commenting on whether it’s unusual in this setting Your post makes no sense..you argue that it's common because greggo did it almost 20 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Man, Gase is such a friggin' turd. Enunwa should've arranged to have the days off, it's not that difficult. But disciplinary stuff should be taken care of privately. I can't think of any positive reason to put fines up on the board like that, all it does is piss off your players, not that he cares cause he's a colossal schmuck, but still, common sense says to handle that stuff privately. Crazy-eyed doofus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, blacklabel said: Man, Gase is such a friggin' turd. Enunwa should've arranged to have the days off, it's not that difficult. But disciplinary stuff should be taken care of privately. I can't think of any positive reason to put fines up on the board like that, all it does is piss off your players, not that he cares cause he's a colossal schmuck, but still, common sense says to handle that stuff privately. Crazy-eyed doofus. Jets knew this when they hired him. He did the same thing in MIA and why players started to turn on him at which point h promptly trades said players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 hours ago, MJS said: Crazy they just post stuff like that on a big screen for everyone to see. ...WHY?....they're a top notch organization, the envy of the league.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Jets knew this when they hired him. He did the same thing in MIA and why players started to turn on him at which point h promptly trades said players Yup. Instead of running a solid program and getting players to buy in that way his philosophy is "buy in or get out." I get that some coaches still have an old school hardass approach but I don't think a lot of players really respond well to that style these days. Jets get everything they deserve with that clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 When Woody Johnson returns he's going to fire everyone, starting with his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I wonder what kind of culture Gase thinks he's building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: If it was consistent with team practices than he knew what was going to happen. Doesn't excuse the Jets for engaging in such an unprofessional practice. Enunwa is not the least out of line for being upset at being publicly shamed by such an unprofessional front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nester Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Maybe don’t skip work without calling in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, NoSaint said: I mean, he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week? He's on IR. The same as long-term disability or maternity leave for the rest of us. How many companies do you know that fine (and embarrass) L-T disability employees for not going to the doctor or calling in every morning to report that they're still alive? Edited November 15, 2019 by Lurker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Well, his tactics in Miami worked out extraordinarily well. So why not bring them to the Jests... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Some of the people in this thread seem like they'd be terrible bosses (I say this as a boss). Re: Gase, we're talking about a guy who dumped Jay Ajayi to the Eagles for speaking out, and in 10 games including three in the post season, Ajayi ran for 584 yards and at 5.3 ypc rate. In three postseason games, he ran for 184 yards at a 4.4 ypc rate (and had 9 carries for 57 yards in the SB). He got hurt the next season, but that's an unpredictable thing. Regardless, he was excellent for a SB-winning team. Gase also dumped Jordan Phillips and got rid of Jarvis Landry for not being "Gase culture" guys. Phillips has been excellent for the Bills, and Larvis, while unlikeable, is a great player. Gase seems like a Queeg-like automaton when he speaks, and the history of his actions back that assessment up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Allan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Are there any image experts/hackers who can exposed the two blacked out player names on the screenshot from the original post? That would be fun, fueling more Jersey Jets disfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Questionable said: Enough is enough with these players taking to social media crying because they got punished, fined, benched, etc. Its beyond ridiculous, and unprofessional. This guy takes a 4 day weekend, doesn't show up to work, doesn't call off to tell work he won't be there, then gets mad he's been penalized? In the real world you'd be fired buddy. The league needs to come down hard on these social media posts. 1st offense - mandatory 4 game suspension without pay. 2nd offense - mandatory 8 game suspension without pay. 3rd offense - mandatory 16 game suspension without pay and team rights to terminate players contract without repercussions. Enough is enough all ready. Fans make me ill to think about. Players lay it on the line every game but the fans basically want the players to play for free and then kiss the owners ass while said owner is overcharging fans and in the Bills case putting an terrible product on the field. People who compare players on a football team to being like employees are their crumb ass job is a joke. Get well Quincy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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