YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) Edited November 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Gase and Douglas aren’t making many friends, huh? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Crazy they just post stuff like that on a big screen for everyone to see. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, MJS said: Crazy they just post stuff like that on a big screen for everyone to see. Straight out of the great team building hand book... Praise in private, discipline in public... do I have that right? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Crazy they just post stuff like that on a big screen for everyone to see. Yeah, is that common practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Yeah, is that common practice? I’m not sure - I’ve not been in a pro locker room but I have been in a college locker room and they have a board that shows how many workouts guys have missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Treatment?!? We talking about..... TREATMENT?!? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m not sure - I’ve not been in a pro locker room but I have been in a college locker room and they have a board that shows how many workouts guys have missed At the big schools his fines might have been even higher! (But more secretive.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It doesn't sound like this Quincy fellow trusts the process. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I mean, he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I mean, he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week? While on IR though? Really? The Jets are surely gonna be an attractive FA destination this coming offseason. Yep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I mean, he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week? When you boil it down this is EXACTLY what happened. Then he comes back and plays the victim. Do things the way you knew they needed to be done and none of this happens. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: When you boil it down this is EXACTLY what happened. Then he comes back and plays the victim. Do things the way you knew they needed to be done and none of this happens. The issue isn’t who is “right” or “wrong”. Osemele might not have been “right” either. It’s that they have players who want to put the team on blast. There is purpose behind that. And that onunwa said teammates told him it was ***** go. Perception is everything. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, H2o said: While on IR though? Really? The Jets are surely gonna be an attractive FA destination this coming offseason. Yep shame on them if they didn’t communicate the expectations or consequences but whether or not he’s playing on Sunday he should be showing up to mandatory events for his employment and meetings with team doctors and trainers while injured are surely part of it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 As someone who has worked freelance for close to 30 years, my perception is that Enunwa has a legitimate beef, and good reason to be upset, but he really should have kept his mouth, and Twitter account shut. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and quiet. This Twitter tantrum may, or may not hurt his reputation, but it definitely won't help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The issue isn’t who is “right” or “wrong”. Osemele might not have been “right” either. It’s that they have players who want to put the team on blast. There is purpose behind that. And that onunwa said teammates told him it was ***** go. Perception is everything. there’s certainly underlying issues in that room but the very specific circumstance here looks worse on him than them- unless there’s an underlying issue like not enforcing the rules consistently. That they publicly display it at least suggests they are consistent and want the expectations and consequences known/visible... but it’s the jets so who knows for sure Edited November 15, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Enough is enough with these players taking to social media crying because they got punished, fined, benched, etc. Its beyond ridiculous, and unprofessional. This guy takes a 4 day weekend, doesn't show up to work, doesn't call off to tell work he won't be there, then gets mad he's been penalized? In the real world you'd be fired buddy. The league needs to come down hard on these social media posts. 1st offense - mandatory 4 game suspension without pay. 2nd offense - mandatory 8 game suspension without pay. 3rd offense - mandatory 16 game suspension without pay and team rights to terminate players contract without repercussions. Enough is enough all ready. 1 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The issue isn’t who is “right” or “wrong”. Osemele might not have been “right” either. It’s that they have players who want to put the team on blast. There is purpose behind that. And that onunwa said teammates told him it was ***** go. Perception is everything. This is about the Jets being a dysfunctional franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, atlbillsfan1975 said: This is about the Jets being a dysfunctional franchise? It appears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Did the Jets franchise pay attention AT ALL to Miami the past few years? What did they expect? They have minimal talent. Darnold looks worse. Their players are revolting. Let’s do it all again next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I think the post speaks more to the overall feel of the locker room, that being said, there's no reason a grown man should be missing scheduled events in a world of cellphones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, Augie said: Yeah, is that common practice? One thing is true, there is nothing common with Gase and the Jets this year. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Normally I’m excited for next year because of the draft and the hope that the Bills will be just a little bit better. Wow, this Jests saga adds another plot line that I just cannot wait to witness unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It doesn’t matter if he’s on IR... he’s getting paid to be there and he no showed twice and told them about it after the fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, DasNootz said: It doesn’t matter if he’s on IR... he’s getting paid to be there and he no showed twice and told them about it after the fact. I agree. The issue isn’t that they fined him. It’s how he reacted. On the heels of Osemele. Can you imagine if Harrison Phillips did this? No you can’t. The Jets have a culture of distrust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) I’d be curious to see more of where the split is behind the scenes. Obviously some unhappy with the front office and I find it hard that anyone’s super pro-Gase... But is there a contingent of players that are tired of tantrums over things like a fine for no showing work or freakouts about a GM accepting a call about a possible trade? Some have to be frustrated that the teams not playing well and guys are making immature distractions that make them all look bad and gets in the way of putting the best possible play on tape. Edited November 15, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Questionable said: Enough is enough with these players taking to social media crying because they got punished, fined, benched, etc. Its beyond ridiculous, and unprofessional. This guy takes a 4 day weekend, doesn't show up to work, doesn't call off to tell work he won't be there, then gets mad he's been penalized? In the real world you'd be fired buddy. The league needs to come down hard on these social media posts. 1st offense - mandatory 4 game suspension without pay. 2nd offense - mandatory 8 game suspension without pay. 3rd offense - mandatory 16 game suspension without pay and team rights to terminate players contract without repercussions. Enough is enough all ready. Freedom of speech? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Freedom of speech? Exactly. I swear some people get so pissy over people posting on Twitter. This world is truly something else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Freedom of speech? Its not freedom of speech. His comments are detrimental to the franchise's business. He's not only trashing his employer in a public forum but also releasing pictures of private property. There are consequences. Is it feedom of speech to yell FIRE in a movie theater when there's no fire? Try telling that to a judge while he's handing down your sentence. Edited November 15, 2019 by Questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Not picking any sides here, but those fines seem excessive for missing two sessions of treatment. Curious how teams set fines; are these standard fines under the CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Freedom of speech? the penalties Suggested were ridiculous but most places of employment have some variety of social media policy. The Nfl is a different beast with the players individual interests being front page but for most of us you’d get tagged by your hr department if you put the company on blast freedom of speech is freedom from government limiting speech not your boss. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I mean, he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week? Exactly, he is getting paid a sh*t ton of money to do what the bosses ask. You show up and do your job and don't whine like a pu$$y on the internet because they fine you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Is anyone considering the possibility that he wants out of the Jests????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: When you boil it down this is EXACTLY what happened. Then he comes back and plays the victim. Do things the way you knew they needed to be done and none of this happens. No, EXACTLY what happened is that he decided not to tell the team until after he no call no showed his job twice in a week, and the team decided not only to fine him, but to embarrass him with a ridiculously unprofessional public spectacle. What the hell sort of a (*^*&%^$^#organization publishes employee punishments on a big-screen TV? I mean...people here think that's okay? That it's an appropriate management practice? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Not picking any sides here, but those fines seem excessive for missing two sessions of treatment. Curious how teams set fines; are these standard fines under the CBA? He just got a 4 year $36 million deal with $9 million signing bonus. He missed two days of work - that’s not excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree. The issue isn’t that they fined him. It’s how he reacted. On the heels of Osemele. Can you imagine if Harrison Phillips did this? No you can’t. The Jets have a culture of distrust. I'm guessing if Phillips got fined, the Bills organizations wouldn't publicly embarrass him along with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, DasNootz said: He just got a 4 year $36 million deal with $9 million signing bonus. He missed two days of work - that’s not excessive. Exactly. The guy is making 562,000 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Not picking any sides here, but those fines seem excessive for missing two sessions of treatment. Curious how teams set fines; are these standard fines under the CBA? id expect that’s a standard rate. Or at least capped in amount allowed by the CBA. in perspective though, he’s banking about 10m this year and into his 16 weekly checks (without getting into the various bonus types) and then breaking it into 7 daily amounts per week he’s getting paid like 90k a day for the season. heck, he’s getting paid 27k a day if split across 365 days. So it’s at most like half a days pay he was fined for skipping treatment without telling the team in advance Edited November 15, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Not picking any sides here, but those fines seem excessive for missing two sessions of treatment. Curious how teams set fines; are these standard fines under the CBA? He said they fined him the maximum. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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