1 REALISTIC trade that you’d like to see before the deadline?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

By Week 10.  

 

Are they?  Did they not just win their last two, and Elway is GMing for his JOB this year.

If you sign Flacco as a stop gap, yes you are in a rebuild. Acquiring assets for next year is probably a better way to keep his job than a couple extra wins this year. 

But, like I said if I'm Elway I don't move Miller. I would get what I can for Sanders. See if they can fleece a WR needy team like Seattle or Green Bay.

Yes week 10 is showing up to get credit for the season. And having Clowney for the end of season and playoffs would have been worth it for Houston and like I said gotten similar compensation for him after 2019.

[HiddenInLight]

19 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

If Singletaryʻs hammy is an issue this week, we should trade for Devonte Freeman

Ajai says hes good to play.  Sign him for free.

[Rocket94]

13 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Realistically they probably aren’t making a trade

Yeah...and if they did, who would it realistically be? Or one of Beane's off the radar moves.

[MJS]

Stay the course.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I’m thinking the profile of a realistic trade is around guys who are proven talents, can help improve the team significantly and are in a contract year or late in their careers on a team with 1 or less win that will clearly need draft capital. Also draft pick given should be no more valuable than a third. (Except Diggs type, would give second for him) 

 

players i could see moving for upgrade or for some draft pick:

- Kroft

- Yeldon

- Trent M or Shaq for upgrade 

-Dawkins for upgrade 

 

Target spots:  RB3, DE, WR

 

- E Sanders 

- Devante Parker

- Rex Burkhead

- Deon Lewis 

- Sanu

- Vic Beasley 

 

 

24 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

If Singletaryʻs hammy is an issue this week, we should trade for Devonte Freeman

Nice call. Easy upgrade over yeldon.

[MarkyMannn]

I'd go only offense.  A RT and a WR.  Trent Williams and AJ Green, maybe whoever else is out there.  With much cap room now, I'm pushing hard to win now.  Why wait another couple seasons when that cap room dries up.  I'd give up some picks for immediate help.  with our current cap room I can sign guys in the off-season to fill other holes

 

Diggs, if Jalen Ramsey was two 1'st's and another pick, is the market for Diggs, assuming he was available, now two 1st's also?  Yikes

 

 

OK I posted this then went back in the thread and read the AJ comments.  Now I don't like him LOL.  Somone said M Sanu, that would be good

Edited October 16, 2019 by MarkyMannn

[buffalo2218]

Sanders went out of the game against Tennessee with a knee injury. Don’t see a trade for him but I wouldn’t mind Mohamad Sanu, don’t think it would take that much to get him

[ProcessYaDigg]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a bunch of threads out there on specific players that are “available.” It seems to make sense to consolidate some of those with the deadline approaching and some big deals already occurring. If you could make 1 trade for the Bills at this point what would it be? Give the actual realistic parameters of the deal as well.

 

I will go first and it may be controversial: a 2nd and Cody Ford to Washington for Trent Williams. Ford is still a young player but doesn’t look to me like he will ever be a tackle. Williams gives the Bills book ends and a really good OL. Washington takes the pick plus the young OL as part of their rebuild. He can instantly replace Flowers and give them something to work with.

What deals are you guys making?

I like the idea, but McD has shown that he gives players chances to develop before calling it quits on them.  i.e. Zay Jones.  Also, Shaq has always been disused  as trade bait, but McD wants to see if he can develop.  If Ford ever gets traded, it'll be when he's in year 3 in this system.

[SCBills]

I'm starting to think the only move they would potentially make, would be for a big time pass rusher, should one come available.  Shaq and a pick dealt out for said player.  We're investing in someone at that position this offseason, whether it's Shaq, a FA, or a high draft pick. 

 

On offense, tackles just don't come available (Laremy Tunsil aside) and i'm not really interested in Trent Williams given his age, injury history and the fact we have a young, talented LT. 

 

As far as skill positions go, almost half of our skill position players are coming back this Sunday..  We've been playing with Gore, Yeldon, Brown, Beasley, McKenzie, and Knox.   Now add into the mix, Singletary, Kroft, Duke and Foster.

 

I doubt Diggs comes available and I don't really see any other guys who make sense for us given what we have coming back.

[Monty98]

I think one of the off the radar moves would be Devante Parker from Miami and he would only require on of our multiple 5ths or a 4th. He's a big rangy guy who can the underneath game but also use some speed down the field, hasn't been what Miami hoped but a change of scenery maybe beneficial for him.

[Rico]

2 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Easy, McCaffrey and Kuechly in a package deal... Target JJ Watt and Kerrigan for some rush, target Kupp or Thielen. 

 

I'd trade Gore, Lorax, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd for McCafe and Keecles...

Watt for Murphy and 2020 3rd, 4th 2021 3rd, 5th 7th

Kerrigan for Taron Johnson, 2020 5th 6th 7th

Kupp for Robert Foster, 2020 2nd, 2021 4th

 

 

Don’t forget Sills V back from the Giants.

[The Dean]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a bunch of threads out there on specific players that are “available.” It seems to make sense to consolidate some of those with the deadline approaching and some big deals already occurring. If you could make 1 trade for the Bills at this point what would it be? Give the actual realistic parameters of the deal as well.

 

I will go first and it may be controversial: a 2nd and Cody Ford to Washington for Trent Williams. Ford is still a young player but doesn’t look to me like he will ever be a tackle. Williams gives the Bills book ends and a really good OL. Washington takes the pick plus the young OL as part of their rebuild. He can instantly replace Flowers and give them something to work with.

What deals are you guys making?

 

 

I agree it's unlikely the Bills would trade Ford this early in his career. And I also think Washington will hold out for at least a 1st plus a player or possibly another high draft pick.

 

But, if this trade could be done, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Sherlock Holmes]

31 minutes ago, Rico said:

Don’t forget Sills V back from the Giants.

That's what I was saving up our 2021 1st for!

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Give me an OT please.  

I really feel like we solved this problem already with Ryan Bates who can backup all the positions

 

Ty is the RT now....at least I hope so

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I really feel like we solved this problem already with Ryan Bates who can backup all the positions

 

Ty is the RT now....at least I hope so

Maybe we have.  Bates played solid last game. I just don’t think Ty is gonna be staying in the field.  Every time I see him after a play, it looks as if he’s looking for his wheelchair.
 

im of the mindset that our tackles are the weakest link on the team.  Ford has been terrible at tackle.  Waddles on IR.  Ty, always banged up.  Dawkins is meh.  

I’m looking to upgrade from Dawkins and nsekhe, not add backups behind them

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a bunch of threads out there on specific players that are “available.” It seems to make sense to consolidate some of those with the deadline approaching and some big deals already occurring. If you could make 1 trade for the Bills at this point what would it be? Give the actual realistic parameters of the deal as well.

 

I will go first and it may be controversial: a 2nd and Cody Ford to Washington for Trent Williams. Ford is still a young player but doesn’t look to me like he will ever be a tackle. Williams gives the Bills book ends and a really good OL. Washington takes the pick plus the young OL as part of their rebuild. He can instantly replace Flowers and give them something to work with.

What deals are you guys making?

 

The concern I'd have with this is the book ends both ideally fit at the same end of the shelf.  While I agree Dawkins isn't all pro at LT, he may still be better at LT than asking him in the middle of the season to switch to the right side and play at a high level.  That also means next year we'd likely need to draft a guard to replace Ford unless we re-sign Spain which I'm not sure is a good move as would cost more, plus think they'd prefer building the line via the draft.  I'd rather give up less and get a true RT as that's really where the need is and then keep Ford at guard.  I do agree that the biggest need for the team is on the O line, more than WR or RB as many here would argue, but think the need is specific to RT.  Going forward i.e. next season if our weakest link on the line is Dawkins at LT, we'd be in really good shape there IMO.

[MR8]

This thread has shown me 1 thing for certain.... People don't understand trade value in the NFL lol.  "I'll give 2 meaningless picks and these under performing players for that future HOFer".... Smh

[Real McClappy]

D. Parker or E.Sanders for a mid rd pick (3rd-4th) makes the most sense. 

Edited October 21, 2019 by Real McCoy

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Easy, McCaffrey and Kuechly in a package deal... Target JJ Watt and Kerrigan for some rush, target Kupp or Thielen. 

 

I'd trade Gore, Lorax, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd for McCafe and Keecles...

Watt for Murphy and 2020 3rd, 4th 2021 3rd, 5th 7th

Kerrigan for Taron Johnson, 2020 5th 6th 7th

Kupp for Robert Foster, 2020 2nd, 2021 4th

 

 

I hope this is some form of sarcasm?  If not, please explain why Carolina would ever consider trading McCaffrey...and oh by the way...throw in Kuechly too. 

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, MR8 said:

This thread has shown me 1 thing for certain.... People don't understand trade value in the NFL lol.  "I'll give 2 meaningless picks and these under performing players for that future HOFer".... Smh

 

 

Who?

[Big Papa]

13 minutes ago, MR8 said:

This thread has shown me 1 thing for certain.... People don't understand trade value in the NFL lol.  "I'll give 2 meaningless picks and these under performing players for that future HOFer".... Smh

 

Is that why a 4th round pick was used to trade for Randy Moss? He might make the Hall of Fame, I'm not sure though.....

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Realistically they probably aren’t making a trade

 

I wouldn't be so sure. I think that assuming the team continues to win at a good pace they are going to at least be monitoring the trade market for a WR or a DE and possibly an OT if injuries occur there. I don't think there is a ground breaking move but a 3rd or a mid-rounder for a starting caliber player is a trade I wouldn't be too shocked to see. 

[njbuff]

Carlos Dunlap for a pick.

[Sherlock Holmes]

14 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I hope this is some form of sarcasm?  If not, please explain why Carolina would ever consider trading McCaffrey...and oh by the way...throw in Kuechly too. 

Two 1sts then, sweeten that pot....got a rebuild ahead of them. Kuechly is aging, if anybody gets a form of a discount it is us because of McBean and McD.

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Two 1sts then, sweeten that pot....got a rebuild ahead of them. Kuechly is aging, if anybody gets a form of a discount it is us because of McBean and McD.

I'm not sure why I'm even responding again, but this is not Madden.  Have you seen McCaffrey play?  He is not getting traded, and if he was, it would be for more than two 1st round picks that will end up between 20-30.

 

Adding Kuechly to the mix?  Even Madden is laughing at that.

 

I'll move on.

[Sherlock Holmes]

4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I'm not sure why I'm even responding again, but this is not Madden.  Have you seen McCaffrey play?  He is not getting traded, and if he was, it would be for more than two 1st round picks that will end up between 20-30.

 

Adding Kuechly to the mix?  Even Madden is laughing at that.

 

I'll move on.

Yeah, Madden is stingy as **** in trades...

Give them two 1sts, Shaq, Gore, Lorax... When is the last time you saw a RB and a LB fetch a 1st let alone 2?

[billykay]

8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Like this

Yep!

[gonzo1105]

4 hours ago, njbuff said:

Carlos Dunlap for a pick.

 

I actually like the realism of this, maybe not the player and position but Dunlap on an 0-5 team and a decent salary can realistically be had for a 4 or 5. 

 

For some one reason I keep coming back to Punter, especially with the way we play with defense and field position. 

 

Maybe Brett Kern from Tennessee since he’s a Buffalo guy for a 5th.

 

 

 

 

[DC Tom]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a bunch of threads out there on specific players that are “available.” It seems to make sense to consolidate some of those with the deadline approaching and some big deals already occurring. If you could make 1 trade for the Bills at this point what would it be? Give the actual realistic parameters of the deal as well.

 

I will go first and it may be controversial: a 2nd and Cody Ford to Washington for Trent Williams. Ford is still a young player but doesn’t look to me like he will ever be a tackle. Williams gives the Bills book ends and a really good OL. Washington takes the pick plus the young OL as part of their rebuild. He can instantly replace Flowers and give them something to work with.

What deals are you guys making?

 

On behalf of whatever-idiot-brought-it-up a few days ago, I'd like to suggest trading Shaq Lawson for Von Miller.

 

Because yeah, that plan was a gem.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

There are a bunch of threads out there on specific players that are “available.” It seems to make sense to consolidate some of those with the deadline approaching and some big deals already occurring. If you could make 1 trade for the Bills at this point what would it be? Give the actual realistic parameters of the deal as well.

 

I will go first and it may be controversial: a 2nd and Cody Ford to Washington for Trent Williams. Ford is still a young player but doesn’t look to me like he will ever be a tackle. Williams gives the Bills book ends and a really good OL. Washington takes the pick plus the young OL as part of their rebuild. He can instantly replace Flowers and give them something to work with.

What deals are you guys making?

 

Not sure it gives us bookends. I still submit Dion Dawkins cannot play RT. 

 

My answer to the question is I'd offer a 2020 #2 and a 2021 #3 for Stefon Diggs. That is my maximum price though. If the fee is ant higher I walk away..

[Buffalo Barbarian]

17 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

Yep Kerrigan is available I think. 

 

What about Geno Atkins? He’s old and Harry is done for the year. Could we get Atkins for a 3rd? He’s an interior force.

 

Id do that for sure

 

Wouldn't mind a pass rusher either but dont want to break the bank either.

 

 

17 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Easy, McCaffrey and Kuechly in a package deal... Target JJ Watt and Kerrigan for some rush, target Kupp or Thielen. 

 

I'd trade Gore, Lorax, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd for McCafe and Keecles...

Watt for Murphy and 2020 3rd, 4th 2021 3rd, 5th 7th

Kerrigan for Taron Johnson, 2020 5th 6th 7th

Kupp for Robert Foster, 2020 2nd, 2021 4th

 

 

 

Beane would be the Wizard if he pulled this off, like your enthusiasm though

 

 

[ganesh]

19 hours ago, DCofNC said:

I'd drop a first for Williams, he could be the difference between a lot of wins and losses.  Allen has been under pressure a lot of the edge and frankly, thats when the stupid button gets pushed.  I think Williams could stop a lot of that.  You get 5 years from a first rounder, if they work out and then its big money time.  We have seen plenty that don't work out, I'd take 4-5 years of a proven stud at this point.

 

I'd also try to get OBJ if he really is on the table, you are going to have to pay for him, but again a first and probably a 4th would be worth it for pretty much everything I said above except now you have an elite weapon.

 

The fact Clowney isnt wearing a Bills uniform right now tells me all of this is not realistic as that was the trade that should have been made.

This team could be improved a lot, picking which of the guys who sits inactive on Sundays to cut isn't that big of a thing if you are getting real talent.

Am worried about OBJ.  He has not been able to connect with Baker Mayfield, a lot more accurate QB than Allen.

[ALF]

With multiple teams needing a very good LT T. Williams , I would guess at least two 1st rd similar to Tunsil. I'll stay with Dawkins and hope Nsekhe  gets back to 100%.  Ryan Bates hmm

Edited October 17, 2019 by ALF

[Fan in Chicago]

Emmanuel Sanders for a 5th Rd pick in 2020

[Doc Brown]

Mohamed Sanu for a 4th.

[maryland-bills-fan]

I say no trades, other then very low level trades to improve depth.  We seem to be doing very good in drafting.

• Round 1. Pick 9 (9) Ed Oliver. DT Houston. ...
• Round 2. Pick 6 (38) Cody Ford. T Oklahoma. ...
• Round 3. Pick 11 (74) Devin Singletary. RB Florida Atlantic.   Knox
• Round 5. Pick 9 (147) Vosean Joseph. LB Florida. ...
• Round 6. Pick 8 (181) Jaquan Johnson. S Miami (Fla.) ...
• Round 7. Pick 11 (225) Darryl Johnson. DE North Carolina A&T.             TE Tommy Sweeney

Every one of those players is either on the roster or stashed away for next year (Vosean Joseph).  Joseph has good athletic skills but needs more training on playing discipline and recognition- so the jury is still out on him, while he gets coached up.  We got 4 starters ( Oliver.  Ford,   Singletary,   Knox ) and 3 rotational players (Johnson,% Johnson and Sweeney) from the draft. Let's keep our picks. These players are athletic and will get better.

 

What I could see happening is a trade of one of our 4 tight ends for a future draft pick.  From  Knox, Kroft,  Smith and Sweeney,  I would like to trade Kroft, but with his injury, he would only have 2 games to demonstrate health before the Saturday 10-29 4PM deadline. He becomes a maybe, but is expendable because of the development of Knox and Sweeney.

 

We could trade with either a contender OR a team out of the playoffs who would like to pick up a good proven player with a lower level pick.  Sweeney for a higher 5th or 6th round pick anybody?

[Dopey]

Offensively, I think we just need to play together more to gel. A lot of new parts.  Defensively, I wouldn't mind an OLB for depth. To me, our LB depth is shaky and Milano and Corey Thompson have lingering issues.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Dopey

[Sherlock Holmes]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Id do that for sure

 

Wouldn't mind a pass rusher either but dont want to break the bank either.

 

 

 

Beane would be the Wizard if he pulled this off, like your enthusiasm though

 

 

I can dream...

 

Obviously if we didn't win a Super Bowl over and over it would be a bad move.

 

But here you are getting enough younger guys that would be a staple and some vets that have years left in them that I think giving away the next two drafts to win now would work. Even so these guys will carry you until your next draft.

 

Man my pocketbook would take a real wallop though, all the jerseys, collector items, needed, the season tix and travel across country...yikesss.

 

Pegula's would have butts in seats for the next 5+ years locked up though, 10+ when we go to a Super Bowl, 50+ when we win more than the Patriots all back to back. McBean might bring me on as Assistant to the GM even

 

[Rocket94]

4 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Emmanuel Sanders for a 5th Rd pick in 2020

This might be an effective move. The guy is a pro.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

5 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Emmanuel Sanders for a 5th Rd pick in 2020

Not a bad idea. You can never have enough guys who can get open and catch.