Chill Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) What time is he seeing the independent neurologist? And who is it? Edited October 5, 2019 by Chill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I think a collapsing pocket is a dangerous place too. At least when he runs he can be aware of where the threats are and react accordingly. The difference here is that he was taking the hit to make a 1st down, which he thought his team needed. Tyrod got injured against the Titans for much the same reason. A legit hit to his torso probably does not drop in his tracks like the helmet to helmet one did. Orton did not get hurt against the Broncos. Orton Makes a Good Business Decision I wonder how these 3 situations played in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Does anyone with some knowledge of this have any idea what kind of tests are performed to clear protocol? Neurological tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would counter and say that I dont know how anyone watched last Sundays game and did not see how the offense was playing better overall in the 2nd half when Daboll finally pulled his head out of his a**. Daboll was terrible in the first half. Lets not forget, once Daboll FINALLY started getting Yeldon and Knox involved in the passing game, we drove the field with Allen and put up the only TD on the Pats this year. The ass he pulled his head out of is using Yeldon and not DiMarco as the man in motion and out wide. All this, "They use DiMarco to help Josh read the defense" stuff is crap when it turns out DiMarco is useless in the pass game. Yeldon can do the same exact thing, but with a guy who caught 60+ passes each of the last two years. Josh still was not good but Daboll's slow adjustments didn't help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: someone should tell him Allen needs to sit and play Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah great idea... not 5 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: If Allen is cleared...do you think he should still sit? If so, why don't we just cut him...what is the point of sitting him if he is cleared? Isn't the point of drafting him to play him? Personally, not a fan of concussions and the affect it can have on one’s brain. I don’t want him getting his head smashed in 1 week after getting his head smashed in. He’s too important. One game off then a bye week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I think having Singetary back would help with blitz busting screen plays. Make the other team pay. That said, I am still not 100% sold on NE's defense. YES they have done well, but I have lots of "buts" AFC Title Game: Torched in the 2nd half by Mahomes and Reid and only won because Dee Ford lined up Offside to negate a Brady game ending pick Super Bowl: held what was then a slumping Rams offense to 3 points without their best RB and WR Week 1: Big Ben with a destroyed elbow Week 2: Miami Week 3: Jets 3rd string QB and banged up RB Week 4: Young QB who has been up and down and making mistakes. Also were 1 yard away from blowing that lead, even with 4 picks. Week 5: Colt McCoy So yeah, because they are NE everyone will go GAH GAH over them. But really, the only time they have been tested they got lit up and were saved by an Offside penalty and a coin flip in OT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would counter and say that I dont know how anyone watched last Sundays game and did not see how the offense was playing better overall in the 2nd half when Daboll finally pulled his head out of his a**. Daboll was terrible in the first half. Lets not forget, once Daboll FINALLY started getting Yeldon and Knox involved in the passing game, we drove the field with Allen and put up the only TD on the Pats this year. Lets not forget, we were driving again when Allen was knocked out of the game. Lets not forget Barkley failed on 3 critical passes that all could have helped us win the game because he made very poor throws. Bottom line...I really like Barkely as our backup, he is certainly capable IMO. But nothing I have seen from him makes me believe he gives us the better chance to win on any given Sunday. Complicating it further is we have a dinged up OL that is already been inconsistent as they all try and learn to play together (and to be expected really with 4 new starters including a rookie). Allen's ability to extend plays and escape pressure has been substantially impactful in all of our games this year. How do you define "playing better overall?" After the opening second half drive TD, Allen led a five play drive that lost 3 yards, followed by a drive of three plays with a horrible INT. On the drive Allen got hurt, Bills drove 20 yards until the drive effectively stalled (If there are no offsetting penalties, it's 4 & 1 at the 37). The real movement on that drive was done mostly by Barkley, who accounted for 39 of the 59 yards on that drive. After that, Pats* blitzed every down knowing that Bills had no choice but to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, nucci said: someone should tell him Allen needs to sit and play Barkley Can’t trust an actual brain doctor. Must determine his health these days via fan vote. Bills are behind the times. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: Personally, not a fan of concussions and the affect it can have on one’s brain. I don’t want him getting his head smashed in 1 week after getting his head smashed in. He’s too important. One game off then a bye week. is anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Can’t trust an actual brain doctor. Must determine his health these days via fan vote. Bills are behind the times. Welcome to the age of "My 10-minute Google search is just as valid as your degree and years of experience." Edited October 4, 2019 by WhoTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, nucci said: is anyone? There are people who huff paint, I am surprised by nothing people purposely do to ***** up their brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, H2o said: And I think this will be the mold other teams follow until Josh is hitting his hot reads and burning them for it. I will counter with what Primetime said about the Bills defense when asked if other teams can use the Bills blueprint for defending the Pats. You cant because you dont have the same talent. Pats secondary is very good so they can blitz and still cover their assigments without confusion. Other teams do not have the talent to do that on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 “Full” participant today after two days of “limited” suggests to me he’s playing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well, THAT's the money quote I've been waiting for. I'm upgrading my forecast for Sunday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven-N-Nine Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Still in protocol but full practice today. That's doesn't make any sense? I thought a player could not participate in full practices unless they were cleared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said: I will counter with what Primetime said about the Bills defense when asked if other teams can use the Bills blueprint for defending the Pats. You cant because you dont have the same talent. Pats secondary is very good so they can blitz and still cover their assigments without confusion. Other teams do not have the talent to do that on a regular basis. True, but you can bet your a** they will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: “Full” participant today after two days of “limited” suggests to me he’s playing. Yup. They just have to dot the i’s and cross the t’s with the neuro e v a l. If Josh doesn’t start I’ll be surprised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I just saw on ESPN that Barkley will start on Sunday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, H2o said: And I think this will be the mold other teams follow until Josh is hitting his hot reads and burning them for it. Daboll said it in his presser: when you put something on film, you better fix it, because you’re gonna keep seeing it until you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: That's doesn't make any sense? I thought a player could not participate in full practices unless they were cleared? No contact, but who lets the team hit the QB in practice anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Seems like Allen is on his way to starting but McDermott feels like he gains a "competitive advantage" by not naming the starter until just before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: What good is the right read if you can't get the ball there? IT MAKES THE O RUN SMOOTHER AS THE BALL HITS THE GROUND! ARE YOU NOT PAYING ATTENTION?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dous21 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 If Allen plays Titans will blitz all day long and our oline has been tragic against the Blitz, and so has Allen. If Dabboll doesn't improve his playcalling we aren't winning this game. So far he hasn't shown anything to me that he knows how to develop a young QB correctly. He is calling the offense like he has Brady or Brees back there. Allen is not that type of QB. If it wasn't for our defense Dabboll would have got flamed for his abysmal play calling vs the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, GG said: How do you define "playing better overall?" After the opening second half drive TD, Allen led a five play drive that lost 3 yards, followed by a drive of three plays with a horrible INT. On the drive Allen got hurt, Bills drove 20 yards until the drive effectively stalled (If there are no offsetting penalties, it's 4 & 1 at the 37). The real movement on that drive was done mostly by Barkley, who accounted for 39 of the 59 yards on that drive. After that, Pats* blitzed every down knowing that Bills had no choice but to pass. 2nd half: Allen = TD (only one surrendered by Pats D) and we were on the move a second time before he got hurt. Josh is amongst the leaders in the NFL in 4th quarter rating and seems to always be stronger in the 2nd half. Barkley = Turnovers on Downs, missed critical completions on poor throws, and a game ending INT. Not saying Allen was crushing it in the 2nd half...but bottom line is once Daboll started getting Knox and Yeldon involved in the 2nd half, things overall got better for the offense compared to the first half where Daboll was trying to throw for 3rd down completions while using DiMarco and Gore out wide as the only receivers on the left side. A half where he continuously called a lot of deep routes rather than focus on giving Allen more options underneath to help get him in a rhythm sooner. I like Barkley, really happy he is our backup and I have confidence in him. But his second half mistakes were as costly as anyone else's that game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said: That's doesn't make any sense? I thought a player could not participate in full practices unless they were cleared? The final stage of the protocol is regular practice activity, followed by an assessment. Josh will be assessed tomorrow for concussion symptoms, following today's activities. If he has no concussion symptoms, then he will be cleared to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, njbuff said: ESPN is the CNN and MSNBC of sports. You really gonna believe a word that comes from them ? It's only believable if its on Pro Football Talk... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 It’s strange that we never brought up or in another qb. That’s really taking a chance that Allen will be cleared. It’s actually probably irresponsible to not have at least brought Webb up just Incase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It’s strange that we never brought up or in another qb. That’s really taking a chance that Allen will be cleared. It’s actually probably irresponsible to not have at least brought Webb up just Incase They have until 4:00 tomorrow to bring up Webb. No rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, BillsFanSD said: They have until 4:00 tomorrow to bring up Webb. No rush. I feel like you would get more by having him up all week getting ready. But I’m not sure what the rules are for the practice squad. Are they sitting in on the meetings? And going through game plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 This thread is extra spicy. Me like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Putin said: I just saw on ESPN that Barkley will start on Sunday You didn't read it in full. The crawler said "Josh Allen still in concussion protocol. Matt Barkley will start if Allen is unable to play." Gosh...the reading comprehension on this board leaves a great deal to be desired. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, jkeerie said: You didn't read it in full. The crawler said "Josh Allen still in concussion protocol. Matt Barkley will start if Allen is unable to play." Gosh...the reading comprehension on this board leaves a great deal to be desired. so now ESPN is the dispenser of pure truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: so now ESPN is the dispenser of pure truth? For the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reddogblitz Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would counter and say that I dont know how anyone watched last Sundays game and did not see how the offense was playing better overall in the 2nd half when Daboll finally pulled his head out of his a**. Daboll was terrible in the first half. We started out the game with those same kind of plays on the first couple of drives, but Josh badly missed on short passes to guys wide open. Maybe he connects on a few of those and it's a different story? Did Daboll call the play for Josh to hold on to the ball and then hop off his back foot and lob it into the air resulting in an easy pick? Was Daboll yelling at Josh to use his head because he was calling bad plays? I WILL criticize Daboll however for not giving Gore a couple carries on that last drive. Very well could have broken one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Personally, not a fan of concussions and the affect it can have on one’s brain. I don’t want him getting his head smashed in 1 week after getting his head smashed in. He’s too important. One game off then a bye week. I get that...but what if he gets his head smashed in 3 weeks from now? I think if he is cleared, he's cleared. I guess that is what all the debate is about. If a player is cleared, they are cleared. I don't think it matters, if the symptoms are gone and a player is cleared, if that player waits 1 or 3 weeks to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, jkeerie said: You didn't read it in full. The crawler said "Josh Allen still in concussion protocol. Matt Barkley will start if Allen is unable to play." Gosh...the reading comprehension on this board leaves a great deal to be desired. And then they blame “the media” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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