Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Of course the Bills team doctors are gonna clear him. I hope he's really okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Gugny said: Of course the Bills team doctors are gonna clear him. I hope he's really okay. I think it's safe to say with all three of them clearing this morning that the Bills doctor was the one holding off on their diagnosis and not the INC. Edited October 5, 2019 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Sirius NFL said he has cleared protocol and will be playing tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, Gugny said: Of course the Bills team doctors are gonna clear him. I hope he's really okay. INDEPENDENT Neurologist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Gugny said: Of course the Bills team doctors are gonna clear him. I hope he's really okay. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Gugny said: Of course the Bills team doctors are gonna clear him. I hope he's really okay. ummm not how it works. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: ummm not how it works. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Whatever makes you sleep at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Whatever makes you sleep at night. so these Independent Neurologist are going to risk their livelihood and careers to clear a player that isn’t ready just because a Team Dr says too. Comeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 5:33 AM, VW82 said: The thing with concussions is you never really know. Josh can get cleared by the best neurologists on the planet. It's still an educated guess. Like I said, there's also the added benefit of letting him watch and learn for a week. That was a brutal performance on Sunday and he's struggled at times in the other games too. Maybe sitting out a week will help him learn that every possession counts. On 10/2/2019 at 9:17 AM, jkeerie said: At the very least...assuming Allen is cleared to play late in the week, I would expect Barkley to start and Josh to be the backup. McDermott disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so these Independent Neurologist are going to risk their livelihood and careers to clear a player that isn’t ready just because a Team Dr says too. Comeon This Independent Neurologist is paid by whom? None of us know the details, but never ever underestimate the greed of the NFL or the GM and HC need to win now at all costs. 48 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: INDEPENDENT Neurologist Paid by whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: This Independent Neurologist is paid by whom? None of us know the details, but never ever underestimate the greed of the NFL or the GM and HC need to win now at all costs. Paid by whom? so you are an independent Dr. you want to lose your license and practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so these Independent Neurologist are going to risk their livelihood and careers to clear a player that isn’t ready just because a Team Dr says too. Comeon Everything seems so shaky about concussions that I wouldn’t conclude anything can be certain except when someone is deemed in critically bad condition and cannot play. Players have been cleared and sent back out in recent NFL playoff games where they almost went to the wrong huddle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: so you are an independent Dr. you want to lose your license and practice? How would he lose his license? You can't prove malpractice in a case like this. It's not like he prescribed the wrong medication. It could all be on the up and up. We don't know either way. But there is a lot of money and high paying jobs on the line. That usually plays a part in decisions is all I'm saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Cute and sweet that young posters 100 percent trust a doctors clearance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Go git it Josh figuratively of course...maybe slide a little more . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said: How would he lose his license? You can't prove malpractice in a case like this. It's not like he prescribed the wrong medication. It could all be on the up and up. We don't know either way. But there is a lot of money and high paying jobs on the line. That usually plays a part in decisions is all I'm saying. So desperate to have Josh not play. This is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: so these Independent Neurologist are going to risk their livelihood and careers to clear a player that isn’t ready just because a Team Dr says too. Comeon But.. but.. what if that neurologist is rabid lunatic Bills fan? It could happen. /justkidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said: How would he lose his license? You can't prove malpractice in a case like this. It's not like he prescribed the wrong medication. It could all be on the up and up. We don't know either way. But there is a lot of money and high paying jobs on the line. That usually plays a part in decisions is all I'm saying. Absolutely can prove if a player passes his Neurological Baseline Testing. Paperwork. No Independent Neurologist under a consultant contract is going to risk his or her reputation, or practice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Absolutely can prove if a player passes his Neurological Baseline Testing. Paperwork. No Independent Neurologist under a consultant contract is going to risk his or her reputation, or practice. They wouldn't need a independent consultant if all there was to it is reading the results of the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: McDermott disagrees. Operative phrase: "At the very least" Meaning that would have been the worst case decision if Josh was cleared late. Best case...He starts! I'm happy with McD's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, CodeMonkey said: They wouldn't need a independent consultant if all there was to it is reading the results of the testing. ahhhh but they do why? Hmmm maybe to ensure this conspiracy theory you are trying to pitch doesn’t exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: ahhhh but they do why? Hmmm maybe to ensure this conspiracy theory you are trying to pitch doesn’t exist. So you think just because someone is not affiliated with any team, that said person is going to be immune to taking large sums of money to do what's in a team's best interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The conspiracy theories and complete misconceptions about how concussion protocol works are pretty wild today. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I know he is cleared. But we're talking brain here, not a broken finger or bone. IMO it would make sense to make in active as the #2 QB, With the bye week and QBs not getting hit in practice, that would be 3 full weeks of recovery if Barkley finishes the game. Think long term here, not just this week! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: ahhhh but they do why? Hmmm maybe to ensure this conspiracy theory you are trying to pitch doesn’t exist. Plausible deniability comes to mind. NFL wanting to avoid potential lawsuits. Not hard to see, As I said twice now, could be on the up and up, but your blind faith in the NFL being good guys out for what's best for the players seems naive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 It's pretty clear that some fans just wanted to see Barkley play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Im probably wrong, but seems to me the NFL has a list of Independant Drs that get paid by the league for making evaluations. kinda like my insurance, a list of "in network" Doctors available, providing a range of specific expertise. Depending upon location, timing, and availability a DR gets the call to go to work. They get paid by the league, and team doctors paid by the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) As I understand it the INC evaluates the injured player after participation in the first practice back in addition to reviewing whatever diagnostics performed by the team, including baseline measurements. In the case of QBs who typically aren’t taking hits at practice, how do they know whether the injured player is fully recovered? Do they put QBs through some special set of drills (e.g. practicing ball security while taking sacks) that they wouldn’t normally do in order to simulate contact? I feel like it would be a lot easier to game the system with a QB than say a LBer. Anyways, glad Josh got through it. If nothing else this means he isn’t experiencing headaches or other concussion symptoms anymore. Hopefully he’s able to bounce back from his performance last week. Edited October 5, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Wow, some posters.... #agendas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Logic said: The conspiracy theories and complete misconceptions about how concussion protocol works are pretty wild today. ? Sheer idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: So you think just because someone is not affiliated with any team, that said person is going to be immune to taking large sums of money to do what's in a team's best interest? it'd be in Tennessee's best interest if JA don't play. so where do you discern who's interests a DR is protecting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: It's pretty clear that some fans just wanted to see Barkley play. All of this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 All I got to say is LETS GOOOO BUFFALO!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: proof. Or do we just make up outrageous conspiracy claims. Then again the President does so I guess that means everyone can Knock that ***** off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: proof. Or do we just make up outrageous conspiracy claims. Then again the President does so I guess that means everyone can Isn't it pretty clear that refs are on the take? Why would doctors not be on the take, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: proof. Or do we just make up outrageous conspiracy claims. Then again the President does so I guess that means everyone can I see you have a personal problem there, keep it to yourself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Isn't it pretty clear that refs are on the take? Why would doctors not be on the take, too? they have cleared several players recently who clearly were not of remotely working mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: so You stance is. man Independent Neurologist that is approved by the NFLPA and assigned to a team will risk everything to take 100Gs in a Duffel Bag Given to him from a team that preaches family and culture at every turn. And from an Ownership group that invested MILLIONS into the health of their players only to Risk their QBs long term viability and health to Pay off an Independent Neurologist for a Tennessee Titian game. that is what you are going with? Well ... yeah. And so I'm clear ... you think that, simply because McDermott is a holy roller, that he's above paying a doctor to clear his QB? Because men of faith have historically been on the up and up in every way, shape and form. Right? Is that what you're going with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: my stance is IT IS ***** IDIOCY to think otherwise. There's no need to raise your font. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, BuffaloBob said: No politics allowed on the Wall. There is a different board for that. calling out BS isn’t politics sorry Just now, Gugny said: There's no need to raise your font. it is Ok. Maybe sometime you will get your wish and see Barkley play again. Not this week. Edited October 5, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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