Joe Brady Officially Promoted as Bills OC!

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

Now hire Belichick and we can have Belichick and Brady.

:: World implodes ::

[billieve420]

Brady didn’t have the personnel to be explosive this season so will be interesting to see how the receiver room looks like next year. However, if he can at least give us the threat of a running game while fixing the passing offense they should be in decent shape on that side of the ball.

[CaptnCoke11]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I sure wish we would’ve hired Ben Johnson as our HC and kept Babich as DC.

 

i like McD and I’m fine with retaining him, but I’d rather have Ben Johnson leading our offense

That’s an unknown.  Not sure I wanna get on that hamster wheel of coaches again.  

[Meatloaf63]

7 hours ago, Augie said:

 

McD is 5-6 in the playoffs, and many of those could have gone the other way, for better or worse. Marvin Lewis was 0-7 in the playoffs, so I would not say that is the same thing. A guy who wins about half is better than a guy who never won. 

 

 

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Could have or should have?

[Coffeesforclosers]

 

Sounds good. 

 

Now lets get younger and more physical on the OL and faster and/or bigger at WR.

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

That’s an unknown.  Not sure I wanna get on that hamster wheel of coaches again.  

To each their own.  I understand.  I like McDermott.  

[BillsVet]

 

5 hours ago, White Linen said:

I don't mind it.  McDermott can hire who he wants and it's on him to be better. 

 

Why not?  McD's got a 3 year streak of firing a coordinator to take heat off himself for disappointing post-seasons.  

 

Funny thing about McD...he knows the owners aren't going to fire him with 4 years and 35M in guarantees due.  I haven't even heard he needed to meet with them post season either.  Besides, Terry has enough to contend with and wants nothing to do with a HC search.  

 

Brady will do what Dorsey and Daboll wouldn't (with Josh at QB): coordinate the offense to be "complementary" to the defense.  And that means more running, more safe throws, a decent regular season record, and losing to KC/CIN or whomever actually runs a competent offense they play in the post-season.  

[Low Positive]

I noticed more pre-snap motion with every week that Joe Brady had with the Bills offense. I hope to see a lot more of it with a full offseason in charge. 

[VW82]

I would imagine that Brady didn't get the permanent role without some level of buy-in to McD's complimentary football approach. This is for those thinking we might put all our resources into the receiver room and open up the offense again. I don't think that's going to happen. Bet we run it back on offense with some minor changes due to cap and double down on the second half of 2023.

Edited January 29 by VW82

[transient]

Not surprised. Given an offseason he may do well. I was hoping for someone more “out of the box” that made me think this season lit more of a fire under McDermott’s ass… oh well. 🤷‍♂️

[hondo in seattle]

I'm not excited by this but for those who are complaining about the hiring process, please educate me.  I don't know who McD contacted, who expressed interest in the job, or who McD interviewed.  So, I don't have an opinion on the hiring process.  

 

I was hoping we'd find someone much better than Brady but apparently Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan have other jobs.  

 

I'd like to know what Brady said in the interview.  Is he going to change the staff?  Bring in a new QB coach?  Revamp the playbook?  Make changes to preseason preparation?  Modify how analytics are utilized?   How position meetings are run?  I can't imagine Brady told McD that he'd just carry on with the status quo and McD was okay with that. 

 

I don't think the offense is as talented as some seem to think but I do believe that with Josh as our QB we ought to be more potent, even with the so-so cast of characters around Allen.  I wasn't wowed by Brady's half-season tryout but maybe with a full preseason to prepare himself and the team, he'll do better next year.  I'm hoping.  

 

I'm also hoping Beane has a really, really good offseason despite our cap limitations.  

[Low Positive]

12 minutes ago, VW82 said:

I would imagine that Brady didn't get the permanent role without some level of buy-in to McD's complimentary football approach. This is for those thinking we might put all our resources into the receiver room and open up the offense again. I don't think that's going to happen. Bet we run it back on offense with some minor changes due to cap and double down on the second half of 2023.

JFC. Every coach in the league talks about "complementary football." 

[In Summary]

He did a great job of getting more playmakers involved. Moved past forcing it to Diggs. Give him another receiver to work with and I'm good.

[CaptnCoke11]

6 minutes ago, In Summary said:

He did a great job of getting more playmakers involved. Moved past forcing it to Diggs. Give him another receiver to work with and I'm good.

Probably need a couple more WRs.  We literally had zero threat down the field 

[Locomark]

Coordinator won’t matter if they don’t fill the gaping problems at WR since there is no way they resign Gabe. 
 

[TurfToeJam]

Brady did a decent job, especially given the circumstances when he took over.  But bills should have brought in someone with experience.  We need to win now while Allen is in his prime.  I worry Brady's inexperience will require time for him to develop as an offensive coordinator.  (And yes, I am aware of his brief tenure with Carolina as O.C. before they fired him)

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

People are actually upset about this????

 

Get this offense some guys who can actually catch and a Thunder to Cook's Lightning and we're a top 3 offense 

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, TurfToeJam said:

Brady did a decent job, especially given the circumstances when he took over.  But bills should have brought in someone with experience.  We need to win now while Allen is in his prime.  I worry Brady's inexperience will require time for him to develop as an offensive coordinator.  (And yes, I am aware of his brief tenure with Carolina as O.C. before they fired him)

 

 

Who?

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

Brady will do what Dorsey and Daboll wouldn't (with Josh at QB): coordinate the offense to be "complementary" to the defense.  And that means more running, more safe throws, a decent regular season record, and losing to KC/CIN or whomever actually runs a competent offense they play in the post-season.  

Dorsey and Daboll are a combined 1-3 past the Wild Card round as the Bills offensive coordinator.  The only win was 17-3 against the Ravens when our offense scored 10 points.  The irony is if Brady/Allen stuck to the game script against KC in the final two minutes we'd likely be in the Super Bowl right now.

[Big Blitz]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

I sure wish we would’ve hired Ben Johnson as our HC and kept Babich as DC.

 

i like McD and I’m fine with retaining him, but I’d rather have Ben Johnson leading our offense

 

Only if the Lions oline, their RBs, St. Brown, and LaPorta come with him.  
 

Johnson might be a good HC.  He might be a great offensive mind and play caller. 
 

I like him.  I’d pump the brakes tho considering what he had to work with.  Everything came together at the right time for them.  

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Only if the Lions oline, their RBs, St. Brown, and LaPorta come with him.  
 

Johnson might be a good HC.  He might be a great offensive mind and play caller. 
 

I like him.  I’d pump the brakes tho considering what he had to work with.  Everything came together at the right time for them.  

Only if...... we have Josh Allen.  He has Jared Goff.  Good QB.  Not Josh Allen

 

I think there are times where you take a chance.  Based on what I’ve seen from a play along perspective, I think this is a time to roll the dice   I’m not expecting it to happen obv, but Johnson is the only guy this offseason that I’d roll the dice on over mcD

[philholbroo]

I hope he asks to get a wr from LSU! 

[Behindenemylines]

3 hours ago, Low Positive said:

I noticed more pre-snap motion with every week that Joe Brady had with the Bills offense. I hope to see a lot more of it with a full offseason in charge. 

Agree.  Brady was a bit hamstringed having to utilize the existing playbook. 

[Aussie Joe]

40 minutes ago, philholbroo said:

I hope he asks to get a wr from LSU! 

He is … but it’s Terrace Marshall whom he is going to ask Beane to trade for 

[davefan66]

I am fine with him getting the job.  What is needed is a better WR room.  Any OC would have difficulty with our current WR’s.  Get a true number 2 that will allow Diggs to play his game.  Get a 4th that can actually play.  Lastly, design plays that get the receivers open. Josh spends too much time running around until someone gets themselves open.

 

I hope a full off-season allows him to make the tweaks that are needed.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, billieve420 said:

Brady didn’t have the personnel to be explosive this season so will be interesting to see how the receiver room looks like next year. However, if he can at least give us the threat of a running game while fixing the passing offense they should be in decent shape on that side of the ball.

What he showed me is their are multiple ways we can beat you and he did a better job of exploiting the opponents weaknesses compared to Dorsey.  Pound the rock like we did against Dallas and Pittsburgh.  Air it out against the Fins (pass rush issues) and Eagles (secondary issues).  Using Josh as a rushing threat against the Chiefs who struggle against scrambling QB's.  I'm fine with this hire and optimistic he can make Josh Allen the best version of himself next season.

[UKBillFan]

We'll see what happens. Whilst an improvement on Dorsey, I think there were too many wrinkles on the offense under Brady, especially in the passing game. On the positive side, Josh seemed more relaxed. Do I wish we'd gone for someone with more experience and offered Brady the QB coach role once again or to take on an OC role elsewhere? At this moment in time, yes.

[Wayne Cubed]

I'm interested in seeing what Brady's playbook actually looks like. He wasn't running his playbook in those 9 games, that's something you install in the preseason and in season you aren't changing that. There's just no time to do that. What he did do a better job than Dorsey, was gameplaning/playcalling. As was mentioned upthread, he did have the advantage of having Josh run, which Dorsey didn't. The Bills can't run Josh as much as they did with Brady in the 9 games, all season.

 

So what does Brady's offense look like? What did he pitch to McD he would run? Can playcall receivers open?

[Since1981]

What’s more impressive?

Dorsey OC CLE 

given the general perception of bills O after Dorsey. The W/L compare is exceedingly top of mind

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

On the positive side, Josh seemed more relaxed.

There was def some kind of tension thing going on. “Low positive”, Diggs. It could well be that Brady didn’t change the playbook (couldn’t). But how the ingredients were used. Josh, Dion, seemed more at ease or something 

 

Chemistry matters. BTW, even talking to fans, Brady feels more comfortable. 
 

need to get W1, W2 that can stretch like Brown did for Allen

Edited January 29 by Since1981

[NastyNateSoldiers]

14 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

The guy didn't adjust in the second half in multiple games, just because Allen started scrambling doesn't mean he was a good coordinator 

McBeane has been riding the coat-tails of Josh Allen . All there blunders are masked behind the greatness of JA17 . Bills will never win with Mcd he never does his part when it matters most. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

McBeane has been riding the coat-tails of Josh Allen . All there blunders are masked behind the greatness of JA17 . Bills will never win with Mcd he never does his part when it matters most. 

Thats the reward of hitting on a QB. You get to ride on the QB’s back for a decade.

 

People act like they inherited Josh Allen. They went and got him. And also Josh Allen wasn’t a can’t miss prospect. McDermott and Beane surrounded Allen with the structure and culture to develop.

[CSBill]

The one who will be the most annoyed is Stephon Diggs. .... Is he still on the milk cartons?

[eball]

Brady was thrown into a very difficult situation mid-season, having to use Dorsey’s playbook and figure out how to make things work.  He did an amazing job under those circumstances and showed an ability to find what’s working and stick with it.  The game plan against KC was fantastic, and but for a couple of execution errors (and one less LB injury) I think the Bills would be playing in two weeks.

 

Does anyone believe that what we saw is all he has to offer?  He now has an opportunity to put his own stamp on the scheme and I am excited to see what results.

 

[BrainwashedBillsFan]

3 hours ago, davefan66 said:

I am fine with him getting the job.  What is needed is a better WR room.  Any OC would have difficulty with our current WR’s.  Get a true number 2 that will allow Diggs to play his game.  Get a 4th that can actually play.  Lastly, design plays that get the receivers open. Josh spends too much time running around until someone gets themselves open.

 

I hope a full off-season allows him to make the tweaks that are needed.

 

 

Yes create plays please that throw our top Wr’s open. Look at the play design on the Vikings. No matter what JJ gets the ball and the defense knows it and can’t stop it. Great play design to throw him open all the time 

[Shortchaz]

The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. 

[Bill Grundy]

I felt our offence was going to score on 8 out 10 drives after Brady took over. 

 

He wasn't super complicated, but with Josh you don't need to be. He's not the world's best OC but, again, I don't think he needs to be. I like the hire because I like his feel for a game. He gets us down the field. Daboll would do that and then struggle a bit in the red zone - lots of trick plays to compensate for no run game, whereas Dorsey barely got us down the field at all unless Josh found it easy. Or so it felt. 

 

It feels that if you've limited talent, you need a superstar OC for sure. But if you've got the talent- and for the most part, we do - you need someone who can call the games well based on what you're up against. 

 

It's a boring hire. But I'm down with it. I woudln't mind a bit more boring, effective predictabilty on offence next year. Plus, Josh has got that magic if it's required. 

Edited January 29 by Bill Grundy

[Green Lightning]

13 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

You didn’t understand my point. Many factors why the offense numbers were worse but the wins were more under Brady. 

You don’t go to the SB after that win. 

Obviously. You don't think we could have beat the Ravens? 

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. 

Yes , and it could very well have been the Bills. One 3 play sequence with a couple minutes remaining ensured it didn’t happen. 

[VaMilBill]

4 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

Agree.  Brady was a bit hamstringed having to utilize the existing playbook. 

I’m afraid this is gonna be the excuse used when the season starts off rough and our offense isn’t producing next year. That and it’s a new system, give it time. Hopefully I’m wrong. But the one thing we don’t have on our side is time with josh Allen only gettin older. 

Edited January 29 by VaMilBill

[nucci]

19 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

The afc rep in the superbowl has zero wide receivers. 

Kelce, Rice and Valdes-Scantling seem to be doing ok