Is Josh Hurt?

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I think coach didnt have him prepared. 

 

Didn't have him prepared for what?

[NoSaint]

7 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

LOL, yes, inaccurate/BAD throws are because the defense is menacing. 15/30 with a 53 rating and under 200 yards. Too much partying with Hailee? 

It’s always funny when guys that are hanging on the soap opera make fun of the participants for being too Hollywood 

[Donuts and Doritos]

The whole passing offense has looked off for weeks.

[John from Riverside]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

He’s not the best decision maker. It’s capping his potential. He’s not hurt. He’s just not cerebral. 

Thanks, Doc

[billsfan89]

Josh said in the presser it was a left shoulder stinger. I think he’s fine. The Pats have a good defense they did a good job of making it hard on the offense.

[TheBeaneBandit]

13 minutes ago, Virgil said:

It’s hard to watch the Patriots game and think something is wrong with Josh, and it’s not just something mental.   
 

And no, I’m not just talking about the last hit he took.  
 

I used to count the amount of passes on one hand that was incomplete solely because of Josh, due to drops or whatever other circumstances.  
 

Josh is missing a ton of throws in a way that seems more than just being “off.”

 

So is he hurt?  And if so, when did it happen?

He's been definitely well less than 100% for a while as has Diggs. It doesn't take a blind eye to deny it.

[MikePJ76]

3 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

Zappe was under more pressure for most of the day and making faster decisions and better throws.    yes NE  has a very good D but the Offensive issues went beyond that

and?

 

the passing game was off in the first half but they didn't do anything to get them beat and they still got points off the turnovers.

 

Winning is what matters, the style points and 200 yard games from diggs do not matter.  That is flashy stuff.

 

The bills have turned into a physical team that is mentally tough and gets stop on defense when they need them.

 

it has been a remarkable 5 weeks and a really big change.  I love it.

[billsfan89]

10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Nope.  Division games are hard.  Belichick is the all time best Defensive coordinator.

 

A few passes that looked rushed and were inaccurate, a few drops and u get a close game.

 

A close game was expected.  

 

The bills showed tons of toughness and mental toughness today.  This was a great win.

It wasn’t even that close of a game after the sloppy start the Bills had a two possession lead most of the way. And when they had to they made the plays they needed.

[nedboy7]

4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Didn't have him prepared for what?

 

Who know.  It's the narrative.  Seems coach didn't have you prepared to understand my dumb posts either. 

[Nelius]

11 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

LOL, yes, inaccurate/BAD throws are because the defense is menacing. 15/30 with a 53 rating and under 200 yards. Too much partying with Hailee? 

These are always weird comments considering the last instagram “model” one actually got the cops called the night of a playoff game. If Josh is distracted now then he’s always been distracted.

[BuffaloBill]

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

Josh said in the presser it was a left shoulder stinger. I think he’s fine. The Pats have a good defense they did a good job of making it hard on the offense.

 

 

Hopefully a mild one because next week is huge.

[MikePJ76]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

It wasn’t even that close of a game after the sloppy start the Bills had a two possession lead most of the way. And when they had to they made the plays they needed.

it was close.  The pats forcing field goals early made it a close tense game.  

 

 

[HappyDays]

He was not inaccurate in the 2nd half. He missed the one deep throws to Diggs, that was all.

 

Our biggest problem by far on offense is pass catchers. They don't separate, they don't catch well, they don't get a lot of YAC. Kincaid and Shakir were just good enough today to make it happen. The rest were almost invisible.

[billsfan89]

Just now, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

Hopefully a mild one because next week is huge.

Josh said he was fine, a non throwing shoulder stinger is not the worst injury he just may need to rest it for the week.

[0017]

15 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

Diggs looks off in so many ways. He doesn't seem to have that usual fire between plays and on the sideline. He looks pretty passive out there like he doesn't are what happens

Something has been up with Diggs since the OC change, he has looked like he doesn’t care, it’s weird!

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

On this play in the 1st Q Josh got hit right after he threw it and took a helmet to the elbow area.

 

3rd & 6 at NE 46

(0:17 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass incomplete short left to G.Davis [M.Wilson].

 

He got up flexing his right hand and I wondered if something happened there. 

[78thealltimegreat]

He had a rough game but that happens in this league from time to time. The Pats just forced the donkeys to bench Russell Wilson so they aren’t exactly slouches. One thing that was a concern is they once again are relying on him to much to convert short yardage 

[BillsfaninSB]

Spleen 

[Comebackkid]

13 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

and?

 

the passing game was off in the first half but they didn't do anything to get them beat and they still got points off the turnovers.

 

Winning is what matters, the style points and 200 yard games from diggs do not matter.  That is flashy stuff.

 

The bills have turned into a physical team that is mentally tough and gets stop on defense when they need them.

 

it has been a remarkable 5 weeks and a really big change.  I love it.

its nothing about being flashy and putting up 50 points..its about being efficient.   its about execution in the situation your in.... both have looked bad...thats just a fact win or lose. 

[KellyToTasker]

25 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

LOL, yes, inaccurate/BAD throws are because the defense is menacing. 15/30 with a 53 rating and under 200 yards. Too much partying with Hailee? 

Yeah, those dang receivers probably need to….I don’t know, catch the ball! Game looks much different without the drops. 

[wjag]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

He was not inaccurate in the 2nd half. He missed the one deep throws to Diggs, that was all.

 

Our biggest problem by far on offense is pass catchers. They don't separate, they don't catch well, they don't get a lot of YAC. Kincaid and Shakir were just good enough today to make it happen. The rest were almost invisible.

 

The OLINE probably had one of their worse games today too.  

[muppy]

35 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Allen is in pain. Look how stiff his left shoulder is when he jogged off the field. It could be a separated shoulder with a broken clavicle.

two bills drive medical  team in full shock and awe mode. Shocked you would say something like that with zero proof and in awe of the lets take the worst possible scenario  and claim that....NOT

 

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Edited December 31, 2023 by muppy

[Heitz]

38 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Allen is in pain. Look how stiff his left shoulder is when he jogged off the field. It could be a separated shoulder with a broken clavicle.

 

For Fs sake now we're using the eye test for shoulder injuries?  Thank you Dr. Web MD...  

[Paup 1995MVP]

30 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Allen didn't play well, but he got zero help from anybody not named Shakir or Kincaid today.  He was pressing, and we don't want that.  

Our receivers as a group do not get any consistent separation. They also drop a lot of passes.  Sherfield should not be on an NFL field.  He is terrible.  Kincaid and Shakir are our two best threats right now.  Diggs and Davis did not do much today.  And Knox was invisible.  Josh wasn’t great by any stretch.  But the entire receiving corps needs a major overhaul in the offseason.  

[BigDingus]

No, he just makes a lot bad decisions.

 

The Bills are a way more successful team when Josh isn't throwing a bunch. Knowing the expectations are so high next week, I'm worried for his mental health.

[Brit]

Josh had a lot of pressure up the middle, especially in the first half, making him unable to step into his throws and causing too many go awry. He improved later on as the interior OL gave him more time. 

 

However, he has lost some accuracy the last few games and there is a good chance that that is down to his dodgy shoulder. 

[Airseven]

Allen looked fine to me. His performance wasn’t unexpected.

[stinky finger]

48 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

if he wasn't. he is now. but something was wrong with him today. terrible game. terrible.

Patriot D - give credit.

[JoshAllin]

Josh is going to need to get in his rhythm soon otherwise it's going to be a short playoffs, I don't think you're going to be able to trust the RB's and coaches to win it all

Edited December 31, 2023 by motorj

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

one must credit ne and their defense. bill has always had a good defense but it was more than that with JA. didn't look like he was playing hurt but rather someone who had a late night, maybe sick/flu? 

[NewEra]

So did 17 get hurt?  Is this something to worry about?  

[muppy]

21 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

The OLINE probably had one of their worse games today too.  

this was in large part due to the Pats*  defensive front. They aren't slouches.

[dhgold]

I agree with OP, Josh's accuracy has been subpar for at least the past two weeks and I suspect it has to do with physical impairments of some sort.  I also agree with OP's fundamental point that JA has been missing a lot of throws that he normally makes.

 

He was abysmal in the first quarter.

[zow2]

Josh is going to have to play with whatever injury because the Miami game is looking like a legit playoff game.  Win and in.  Lose and likely go home. If Kyle Allen has to play it’s prob over.

[Heitz]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

So did 17 get hurt?  Is this something to worry about?  

 

"And I don't worry about nothin', no, because worrying's a waste of my...time." - Achmel Rose

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Heitz

[Special K]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

So did 17 get hurt?  Is this something to worry about?  

 

If he was seriously hurt, there would have been medical staff all around him on the way off the field....he just got dinged up, maybe a stinger....nothing to worry about, IMO, but we shall see.

[Old Coot]

56 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

He’s not the best decision maker. It’s capping his potential. He’s not hurt. He’s just not cerebral.

Could be because he doesn't watch enough film. A year or so ago he said he doesn't watch much film because when you see on Sunday is not what you see on film.

 

That's a big red flag. I hope Josh doesn't have a Kyler Murray problem.

[Beck Water]

28 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Our receivers as a group do not get any consistent separation. They also drop a lot of passes.  Sherfield should not be on an NFL field.  He is terrible.  Kincaid and Shakir are our two best threats right now.  Diggs and Davis did not do much today.  And Knox was invisible.  Josh wasn’t great by any stretch.  But the entire receiving corps needs a major overhaul in the offseason.  

 

This is true.

 

Sherfield is what he is - a good blocker and ST guy who can play #3 WR.  That works only if you have a good  #1 and a #2

 

I just watched the guys Lamar Jackson was throwing to and I don’t see either separation or focus/ability to complete the catch from our guys

Edited December 31, 2023 by Beck Water

[26TrapDraw]

2 hours ago, Chugga said:

I think him and Diggs are both dinged up.  But I expect both of them to ball out and bring the AFC East crown home next week

We expected Diggs to “Ball out” today and he was invisible…..again

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Edited December 31, 2023 by 26TrapDraw

[BillsFan2313]

33 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Allen looked fine to me. His performance wasn’t unexpected.

 Our QB won. Sorry about Tua not doing the same.