CincyBillsFan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, dhgold said: He was abysmal in the first quarter. He was also running for his life. Pressure up the middle is the worst kind of pressure for any QB. The interior O line better up its game as today they did not run or pass block well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I don't get how some fans can watch Josh and not see something is off. No its not the Pats D, the guy flat sucked today and there is something wrong. It has been for awhile and it's getting worse. Diggs had all but disappeared. Drops, not exploding off the ball... something is seriously wrong offensively. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Virgil said: It’s not just this game. He’s been off the past few weeks at least. I’d argue it’s been most of the season. But it’s tough to know. It goes back to last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Malazan said: It goes back to last season. I agree,back to the green bay game. He needs an entirely new offensive scheme and a couple WR's worth a damn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Donuts and Doritos said: The whole passing offense has looked off for weeks. With Diggs playing as an average WR are you surprised? Without Diggs in elite mode what are we left with? We don't have blazing speed and our WR's don't make very many great catches. Did people happen to see OBJ's catch today against the Dolphins? 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: With Diggs playing as an average WR are you surprised? Without Diggs in elite mode what are we left with? We don't have blazing speed and our WR's don't make very many great catches. Did people happen to see OBJ's catch today against the Dolphins? Signing Higgins should be Beane's top priority this offseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Real McClappy said: Signing Higgins should be Beane's top priority this offseason With what money? They can't even keep what they have. Those bad contracts are hitting now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't get how some fans can watch Josh and not see something is off. No its not the Pats D, the guy flat sucked today and there is something wrong. It has been for awhile and it's getting worse. Diggs had all but disappeared. Drops, not exploding off the ball... something is seriously wrong offensively. I know I sound like a broken record but the problem with the Bill's O is that for the last few years it has been treated like the proverbial red headed step child. The lions share of FA money and draft capitol has flowed to the D. This past year things started to change with the Bills taking Kincaid (a budding superstar) and Torrenze with the 1st & 2nd picks but in FA the Bills were in serious bargain hunting mode on O and it shows. Look at the Chiefs, as Kelsey, much like Diggs, falls back into average territory and KC's long shot signings haven't panned out Mahomes is looking very ordinary. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't get how some fans can watch Josh and not see something is off. No its not the Pats D, the guy flat sucked today and there is something wrong. It has been for awhile and it's getting worse. Diggs had all but disappeared. Drops, not exploding off the ball... something is seriously wrong offensively. Passes that seemed effortless, seem to require him to really put his body into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I'm not a QB guru, anyone who is, and watches enough film, how are his mechanics this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Beck Water said: This is true. Sherfield is what he is - a good blocker and ST guy who can play #3 WR. That works only if you have a good #1 and a #2 I just watched the guys Lamar Jackson was throwing to and I don’t see either separation or focus/ability to complete the catch from our guys Sherfield is nowhere near a #3 reciever. He's a 5 or 6 at best. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Trogdor said: With what money? They can't even keep what they have. Those bad contracts are hitting now. Very true. Beane has lots of work to do and tough decisions to make, https://www.newsweek.com/buffalo-bills-monday-night-football-salary-cap-nfl-1843524#:~:text=Cap Space Could Affect the Bills' Future&text=According to OvertheCap's numbers%2C Buffalo,cap is pegged at %24256%2C000%2C000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 It seems like it's the easy throws too that he struggles with. 7 yard pass to someone wide open he misses. But then makes great pass 15 yards in tight coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 He's been off if not affected by something. The long ball plays have disappeared for many games.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Every Josh Allen bad game, he has some new kind of mystery injury. It’s getting kinda funny at this point. Maybe…. Just maybe….. he had a bad game. Edited December 31, 2023 by FireChans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Ya know what I’m tired of seeing… the opposing team, with a scrub QB and average WR, make 1 or 2 amazing pin point perfect, over the shoulder, draped in coverage reception. Why do our WRs never seem to make these amazing catches? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: He was also running for his life. Pressure up the middle is the worst kind of pressure for any QB. The interior O line better up its game as today they did not run or pass block well. OL was really disappointing today. We should come out running. That seems to get the OL established or in a rhythm. We also may need a Moree replacement next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 not sure but Allen looked awful all day but that was Belichecks and NE SB to spoil our playoff hopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) If you payed attention to last week’s broadcast during the replay of Davis touchdown catch Collinsworth made a reference to Josh playing with a bad shoulder. He has been playing through pain for a while. I suspect it was a hit in the Giants game. Edited December 31, 2023 by ChrisWatson#21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanderPoke Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Virgil said: It’s not just this game. He’s been off the past few weeks at least. I’d argue it’s been most of the season. But it’s tough to know. Yeah, he been off all year. Just putting up all pro level numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Josh ain't hurt. A few dumb plays a game though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanderPoke Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 These threads crack me up. Five game win streak which Josh has lead the team on and everyone is like JoSH sUCKs BaILeY ZApPe bETtEr DuRRrr 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Our receivers as a group do not get any consistent separation. They also drop a lot of passes. Sherfield should not be on an NFL field. He is terrible. Kincaid and Shakir are our two best threats right now. Diggs and Davis did not do much today. And Knox was invisible. Josh wasn’t great by any stretch. But the entire receiving corps needs a major overhaul in the offseason. As I said in the GDT, Diggs has fallen off the table. I don’t see how we go into 2024 with him as WR1. He’s a slot receiver at this point. We need four new WRs next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, billybob71 said: Tua hurt shoulder also could be sylar vs Kyle for division Coaches will have to be looking closely at the match ups. Going into the playoffs healthy may trump the divisional crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The thing about a shoulder is both sides effect the throwing motion as does pain in either side. For years, some on here, including me have been stating that Josh needs to be used judiciously in the run game. I stated earlier this year that his balls didn’t appear to have the same zip on them. Today was an absolute example of John having major problems throwing the ball from a physical standpoint. I hope it is just superficial pain and injury but it might not be. The NFL takes a toll and coaches choose what’s best for them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I don't see anything that would suggest an injury is effecting Allen's play. He just played like a** today. Diggs is the real question. He played 60% of snaps last week. And then today on the first drive to open the second half did not play a single snap. Something is going on there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I think Josh was throwing balls away because the coverage was so good. This game was another Belichick special on defense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Sherfield is nowhere near a #3 reciever. He's a 5 or 6 at best. I didn’t say he was a #3 WR. I said he “can play it”. Different statements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 His deep ball accuracy is nothing new. Can throw it 80 yards but can't hit a wideout in stride at 40 or 50 to save his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, LanderPoke said: These threads crack me up. Five game win streak which Josh has lead the team on and everyone is like JoSH sUCKs BaILeY ZApPe bETtEr DuRRrr Where is anyone saying Baley Zappe is better? I’m not saying you didn’t see it here - I’m continuously surprised by what people say here - but I mean, the guy threw 3 interceptions, that’s not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I didnt read the thread so if that was posted already sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, RiotAct said: Want to say his original shoulder injury happened around the (infernal, blasted) London game? And he pretty clearly injured his non-throwing shoulder on that game-clinching 1st down run this afternoon, too. Negative on London. It was the Giants game. After that, Josh appeared on the injury report “right shoulder” every week until this past week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, 26TrapDraw said: We expected Diggs to “Ball out” today and he was invisible…..again We expected Diggs to “Ball out” today and he was invisible…..again We expected Diggs to “Ball out” today and he was invisible…..again We expected Diggs to “Ball out” today and he was invisible…..again That’s a lot of quotes. Anyways I don’t know you can stay pessimistic if you want but I’d prefer to stay positive. This team is 1 win away from the 2 seed in the playoffs. If you think Diggs is cooked that’s up to you but he was about a foot or 2 away from a 91 yard TD today. So I’m going to hope they clean that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, mannc said: We need four new WRs next year. I would keep Diggs, Shakir is here, and on a cheap contract. I don't think we are going to be drafting high enough to get one of the "elite" WR's. Beyond that we need 3 journeymen, given our cap issues. Hoping Kincaid continues his growth, as he gives Josh a bit of a cheat code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chugga said: That’s a lot of quotes. Anyways I don’t know you can stay pessimistic if you want but I’d prefer to stay positive. This team is 1 win away from the 2 seed in the playoffs. If you think Diggs is cooked that’s up to you but he was about a foot or 2 away from a 91 yard TD today. So I’m going to hope they clean that up. I don’t care about the glass half full or empty stuff. I just need our number 1 receiver to have production like he used to. Edited December 31, 2023 by 26TrapDraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Tape a Bandaid on it and play. It’s that time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If I watched the last time I pooped, it would fail in comparison to the onslaught I unleashed before hand. Thank goodness he was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee75 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Diggs posted yet another cryptic story on IG today. It gets really old after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said: I don’t care about the glass half or empty stuff. I just need our number 1 receiver to have production like he used to. It’s naive to key in solely on production. If Josh takes a yard off on one of his throws you can add 91 yards and a TD to his total today. If Josh adds a yard or 2 onto another one of his throws that goes into a patriots defenders back then you can add on another 40 or so yards to his total. Last week if Josh puts another 2 yards on that interception Diggs is likely gone on a 70 yard TD. It’s not a 1 way street. They aren’t clicking down field. But in both games when Josh needed yards on key 4th quarter drives guess where he goes and guess who converts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Chugga said: It’s naive to key in solely on production. If Josh takes a yard off on one of his throws you can add 91 yards and a TD to his total today. If Josh adds a yard or 2 onto another one of his throws that goes into a patriots defenders back then you can add on another 40 or so yards to his total. Last week if Josh puts another 2 yards on that interception Diggs is likely gone on a 70 yard TD. It’s not a 1 way street. They aren’t clicking down field. But in both games when Josh needed yards on key 4th quarter drives guess where he goes and guess who converts. I use the eye test and my eyes say he’s neither involved or productive in the offense as of late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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