Buffalo Boy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: With how he coached in that playoff game a couple of years ago against the Bills, no thank you. He made a number of head scratching calls and played a key role in that defeat. I saw that game as more of Indianapolis losing, than the Bills winning. To those that stated he's the offensive version of McDermott, that seems to be a pretty good comparison. Reich is the reason we won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I would be happy with OC Frank Reich. I would not be happy with HC Frank Reich. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: He had a chance, but he stubbornly chose to start Bryce over Andy Dalton all season. With an owner like that you never know who’s calling the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 A month and a half ago: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Frank stinks. I wouldn’t even interview him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I have flashbacks of Phil Housley’s tenure with the Sabres, as well as Pat LaFontaine. Not sure it’s a good idea to bring a former player back as a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 More interested in what Carolina would trade for Mcdermott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I want Reich no where near Josh Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It shows how naive the folks on this board are that we have gone 5 pages and not stated the obvious: If McD goes to Carolina then Brandon Beane will go with him. Contract-shmontract. Carolina is home for Beane and he can leave behind a bad cap situation and go home to work with his friend McDermott? That's a dream come true for those guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: More interested in what Carolina would trade for Mcdermott Well trade McDermott for DJ Chark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Booey Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 No f@@@ing way!!! Dude washed up. We need a young offensive mind!! Bobby Slowik, from the Shanahan tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 reich belongs with a team like the ravens or other team who appreciates conservation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Amazing. Frank Reich has aged 100 years in the past 12 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Love Frank but he's a retread who didn't work out for 2 other teams. Pass. THIS. Maybe bring in Jim Kelly for OC as well? Cmon. Bring in the BEST coach available, presumably offensive minded. And a DC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He's more milquetoast than McDermott. I love Reich but he is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, boater said: He had no chance. With that kind of patience from ownership, the Panther's will be perennial bottom feeders. Their roster is terrible. Not sure what any HC is supposed to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Frank will be the next Bills QB coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: This is somewhat what I am terrified of if we fired McDermott. I feel like if Belichick gets let go from New England that Terry will wanna make headlines and get Belichick here and I honestly want no part of that. The dude has always been extremely overrated and I'd rather go younger with an up and comer with a good offensive mind Ok How about Eric Bienemy? I get for some reason he struck some owners wrong in interviews, but maybe his attitude sits well with players? In the end that is what truly counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Sounds like Reich wasn’t on board with the Bryce Young fiasco… I’m sure he voiced his opinions and they showed him the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Bryce Young looks like a kid playing in the NFL. He's freaking tiny. Even his arms and legs are like toothpicks. Jalen Hurts can squat 1700 pounds, as we're often told (and it might be 1800 this week) and at least looks built. Tua also has added some mass so that he's not made of balsa wood. Bryce Young is a tiny guy with minimal arm strength who looks like he will break if a DT hits him. I don't get what anyone saw in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, wppete said: Frank will be the next Bills QB coach. I could get on board with this, but probably not OC and definitely not HC. Love Frank, but we either keep McD or we get new blood entirely in here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: that was the owner. Reich and GM wanted Stroud That's just a rumor. I'm down here in NC and my family are mostly Panthers fans, and they're football junkies too. It's just hindsight rumors because Stroud has clearly looked better to this point. At least that's what it feels like to me. It makes no sense to force a Rookie QB on to a 1st year offensive HC. You have to give him his preference and the official stance has always been that it was unanimous inside the organization that Bryce was the guy. Tepper has issues, but I don't think he's that dumb. Maybe though. And it has been confirmed by reporters in Houston that the Texans would have taken Young if they had been able to move into the #1 overall spot. They tried and thought they had a deal done to do it. This hindsight stuff on Young is interesting. It reminds me of Tua. Young is an amazing kid. He's brilliant... They say he has a photographic memory. His mental testing was off-the-charts good pre Draft. There is a reason teams were wanting to get into #1 overall to get him. I've watched almost every Panthers game this year and, IMHO at least, the problem was Reich and that terrible vanilla offense he trotted out. It was brutal. They learned nothing from Tua's 1st two years and did exactly what the Fish did. They put the kid back there behind a terrible offensive line and asked him to work miracles to blanketed receivers. It was awful.. And I love Frank, but I want nothing to do with him as a coach after what I saw this year. It was so very bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Pass. Pegula has had enough legacy hires over the years . There are plenty of other good candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Carolina gave Reich 11 games, yet we can't get rid of a coach who is in over his head at taking the team over the hump and into the next level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 For all you thinking Reich was wronged in Carolina, or that he would be a viable replacement here, I'm guessing you have not watched much Panthers football this year. I love Frank too, but good grief keep him away from my team... No thank you. The rumors about him wanting Stroud are completely just that...rumors. Young was always going to be the guy, they have been steadfast from day one that it was a unanimous decision. And the Texans wanted Young over Stroud too. Just so happens that they all look wrong right now. But remember, after their rookie years there is not a person on the face of the earth that would take Tua over Herbert. But there are at least a few now. Reich is supposed to be an offensive guru and his offense was brutal. They put that poor kid out there behind the worst offensive line in the league and outside of Thielen gave him nothing. No one is ever open. It looks so vanilla, nothing clever. It's just brutal. If you Draft a small QB like Young you HAVE to do what the fish did with Tua and build something around him that matches his skill set, and keeps him clean. The Panthers did not even try that. Reich is to blame and rightfully got fired for it. And I know Tepper is an idiot, but in this case I would have done the exact same thing. Frank looked lost, his offense was terrible. It was the right move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Sounds like Frank Reich has had pretty much no recent success and there is no reason whatsoever to even consider bringing him back except for his connection to the Comeback game which has zero relevance in 2023. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It HAS to be a member of the 90's team, no need to look anywhere else, Kelly for OC, Bruce DC, Reed Wr coach, etc, it cant be stopped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, FieldGeneral said: Carolina gave Reich 11 games, yet we can't get rid of a coach who is in over his head at taking the team over the hump and into the next level. Carolina is a paragon of success and stability. Just now, Matt_In_NH said: It HAS to be a member of the 90's team, no need to look anywhere else, Kelly for OC, Bruce DC, Reed Wr coach, etc, it cant be stopped Well who better to get us back to the Super Bowl than the guys with no coaching experience who made it to 4 straight championships and...F@#$%^ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Ok How about Eric Bienemy? I get for some reason he struck some owners wrong in interviews, but maybe his attitude sits well with players? In the end that is what truly counts. I want no part of Bienemy either. The dude has a rap sheet which I think is why he hasn't gotten a job yet. Not to mention he has been known to interview like crap and rubs players and coaches the wrong way. No thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, KCNC said: I would be good with giving Reich a chance with the Bills. McD is not cutting it. Because Frank was a good HC in Indy or Carolina? Please he's horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: It HAS to be a member of the 90's team, no need to look anywhere else, Kelly for OC, Bruce DC, Reed Wr coach, etc, it cant be stopped Is this a joke? The Frank Reich nostalgia by Bills fans is endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Because Frank was a good HC in Indy or Carolina? Please he's horrible. I dont want Reich here but to say he is horrible is hyperbolic. He is about average in terms of coaching and had some good years in Indianapolis. I would imagine its likely over for him as a head coach, but you may see him as a QB or OC again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Is this a joke? The Frank Reich nostalgia by Bills fans is endless. Not as big as the Flutie nostalgia by some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, nucci said: it's pretty well known and acknowledged around the league. I won't reveal my source https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/reich-responds-to-rumblings-that-he-preferred-stroud-in-draft-process Quote "I've always said, I like C.J. Stroud a lot. I liked that whole quarterback draft. I think they were all really good prospects and I think they're all going to have really good NFL careers," Reich said. "My eyes and our eyes were on Bryce Young from start to finish. You look at the film, you talk to the man, you get a sense for the leader, the player, what he is and what he can be and how he fits into what we want to do, we got the guy for us." To me it sounds like he is supporting the QB franchise took for anything else would be disrespecting QB. It is not necessarily his opinion at draft time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Please no I don’t think he is a very good head coach. I want a shanahan tree guy or gal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Can you jog my memory on the game, because I remember being really impressed with how indy played and their plan The seasons after though he was a total disaster It’s all summed up nicely here: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2021/01/09/colts-vs-bills-frank-reichs-calls-help-bills-escape-wild-card-win/4134939001/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Pass. Pegula has had enough legacy hires over the years . There are plenty of other good candidates. Legacy candidate?!?! How could I forget?! You can find him daily on 'One Bills Live'! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: It HAS to be a member of the 90's team, no need to look anywhere else, Kelly for OC, Bruce DC, Reed Wr coach, etc, it cant be stopped I guess Thurman will be the HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Roundybout said: He’s a great coordinator. Would love him on our staff. Carolina is such a pathetic franchise. He made Carson Wentz look good in Philly, and Old man Rivers look good in Indy - Imagine what he could do with Josh Allen talent. Edited November 27, 2023 by Nuncha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Sounds like Frank Reich has had pretty much no recent success and there is no reason whatsoever to even consider bringing him back except for his connection to the Comeback game which has zero relevance in 2023. Well, some recent success. But like all coaches, his fate rested on the quality of his quarterbacks. - 2017: Colts go 4-12 (under Chuck Pagano) with Jacoby Brissett at QB - 2018: Reich takes over, they go 10-6 and make the playoffs with Andrew Luck returning from injury - 2019: Andrew Luck jumps ship, Reich goes 7-9 with Brissett again - 2020: Colts bring in Rivers, Reich goes 11-5 - 2021: Rivers retires, they bring in Wentz, go 9-8 - 2022: elderly Matt Ryan is not elderly Philip Rivers; Reich fired - 2023: rookie QB in Carolina, one win, fired I'm not so sure this is anything different than McDermott. - 2017: 9-7 with Tyrod - 2018: 6-10 with rookie Josh - 2019 -2022: no worse than 10-6 with peak Josh The QB really is that important. Much more important than who's coaching. See Belichick, Bill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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