Boatdrinks Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I think a trade for a quality CB is necessary to compete. A decent LB will do, but need more at the corner spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: When the Eagles lost Davis to a sprained ankle last year (I think around week 9) and immediately became a terrible run defense they brought in 2 DTs Suh and Joseph and shored up the D line. You HAVE to do something if you’re still a Super Bowl contender. At the very least it sends a message to the team “we aren’t done.” They signed free agents. Which free agent DTs would you like to sign? Suh? Joseph? Which LBs? Which CBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Eventually you have to go all in. Von won't be a long-term answer for us. Tre White might never play again. It won't be that long before Diggs is over the hill and Allen is getting into his 30s. The mantra "keep building for the future" doesn't work when the future is now. Most of the other Super Bowl contenders in recent years made a mid-season trade to fill a hole. We now have several holes - WR2, CB, DT, WLB. From left to right those are positions where I would like to see us make a move. Just one is fine. If we stand pat how can we realistically compete with a team like the 49ers? Barring major injuries, nobody is competing w the 49ers. The Bills season ended today. This was a Championship or bust season, all hopes went out the window with Milano and Jones down for the year and Dorsey still at PC for the year. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, BadboyBills said: Surtain would fit under the cap with a little movement. Would take obviously a 1st, and mid rounder tho. I'd try to use Elam in that trade and make the 1st a 2nd or 3rd plus another later pick. Elam's skillset doesn't work in our D but it may in Denver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: I'd try to use Elam in that trade and make the 1st a 2nd or 3rd plus another later pick. Elam's skillset doesn't work in our D but it may in Denver Did the game today get blacked out in Denver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Did the game today get blacked out in Denver? 1 game doesn't equal complete bust, plus all NFL coaches will always think their method is better. He looked ok at times last year and even had a couple INTs. We just don't have time to wait for him to find himself. Edited October 9, 2023 by thewookie1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: 1 game doesn't equal complete bust, plus all NFL coaches will always think their method is better. I actually think the guy has some ability based on what he showed last year … Doubt he moves the needle much on a trade at the moment … they still giving up a first for Surtain and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, benderbender said: Knox’s play after such a huge contract makes him a chess piece. What kind of cap hit would it be though? All his guaranteed money goes onto the cap immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, buffblue said: He's not untouchable for sure Tough to find a team willing to take on his contract for the production hes had on an elite offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: and the 49ers, one may recall, made the move for CMC that we should have. This is a great point. To be fair they paid a steep price and there were real questions about CMC's durability but in hindsight that trade was a home run for the 49's. CMC is the difference in that offense. If Elam is a bust and we've already traded away Cody Ford & Bogie Bashum and not resigned Edmunds then maybe Bean/McD overvalue 1st & 2nd round picks. That is what it will cost to get an impact player in a trade. I just don't see us parting with higher end draft capital though it worked out great for Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Biggest problem we have is like 0 cap space to sign anyone that will make that kind of impact. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Eventually you have to go all in. Von won't be a long-term answer for us. Tre White might never play again. It won't be that long before Diggs is over the hill and Allen is getting into his 30s. The mantra "keep building for the future" doesn't work when the future is now. Most of the other Super Bowl contenders in recent years made a mid-season trade to fill a hole. We now have several holes - WR2, CB, DT, WLB. From left to right those are positions where I would like to see us make a move. Just one is fine. If we stand pat how can we realistically compete with a team like the 49ers? Im not saying you are wrong … but Beane tells us repeatedly he isn’t going “all in” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: They signed free agents. Which free agent DTs would you like to sign? Suh? Joseph? Which LBs? Which CBs? I know - but they did something they didn’t rely just on in house depth. And we might need to do the same anyway. What about Akeim Hicks? He still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, buffblue said: I don't know about name your price, but yes I would be in on Surtain big time does he play press man? Because if so he likely won’t be active. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Kuechly... Been gone too long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Every year we talk about it and every year we do nothing important. I wouldn’t waste another minute, I’d call Denver tonight and say name your price for Surtain…we won’t do anything though and it’s a waste of a thread unfortunately Not necessarily true. Beane went and got Benjamin for a playoff run. Last year he got Hines So he has made some moves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: I think you make a deal at the right moment. And that moment is in three weeks. See where the season is at 10/24-10/31. This. Wait and see. Wait until deadline. If we lose 3-4 more players then what is the point. See if there is a chance for Daquan to come back later. See how Bernard and Williams play. See if Elam can get back on track. Evaluate, find the biggest weakness and if a trade is there, do it. Even for a first. Just don't do it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Been gone too long The GOAT can easily come back. He'd probably even be faster and better since he's so fresh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, mrags said: I’d be more inclined to trade away guys and get as much as we can in an effort to trade up the entire draft to take Harrison Jr. The terrible thing is, we would do that and McD would keep him inactive for 4 weeks. Or Dorsey just use him as a distraction to force the ball to Diggs or knox. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, benderbender said: Knox’s play after such a huge contract makes him a chess piece. Sorry, he’s a “Josh Buddy” 😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Success said: Maybe. It depends on the following: - Are Milano & Jones definitely gone for this season? If either can make it back for the playoffs, stand pat at their position. - How do the replacements do? Williams might be alright. I was excited when we signed Poona Ford. Both will be a dropoff, but in a D like this, maybe not significant enough to warrant any other moves. They could be ok with a less stellar defense but only if the offense plays the keep away game by eating chunks of game clock. Then even a timely turnover by defense can make enough impact to get the bigger gap in score letting our defenders tee off or play prevent as game is progressing can adjust to what's happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuboirs Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, FireChans said: It’s too late man. It's not too late the 49ers just traded for Gregory without the need .Traded for CmC without the need aswell ...The dolphins traded for Claypool without the need ...And we have needs and will likely do nothing ..that's how you build a winner... Edited October 9, 2023 by Cuboirs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2mountain Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, benderbender said: Knox’s play after such a huge contract makes him a chess piece. If you don't like his play and contract, what makes you think another team will be a willing buyer? Other GMs aren't suckers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I suspect they will dumpster dive hard off other teams practice squads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Im not saying you are wrong … but Beane tells us repeatedly he isn’t going “all in” Remind us all, how many SB wins has Beane gotten us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 hours ago, buffblue said: He's not untouchable for sure I'm not sure about that, I think a big part of his contract was Josh likes him. His production certainly didn't warrant the money he was given. Now they have the 2 TEs they always wanted and can't scheme any plays to the TEs. 4 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Remind us all, how many SB wins has Beane gotten us? This, id rather be the Rams who sold it all for a championship. They just blew they're money and now it's a moot point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, White Linen said: I'd also sign Jarvis Landry along with Anthony Barr. Haven't paid attention to him in a while. Why is he still available? Age or injuries or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Make Christian Kirksey unretire I was just thinking maybe if he were to come back seeing what the Bills have endured in this game it may make things a little better . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 We need a CB, a LB and an OC. Getter done beaner boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: This. Wait and see. Wait until deadline. If we lose 3-4 more players then what is the point. See if there is a chance for Daquan to come back later. See how Bernard and Williams play. See if Elam can get back on track. Evaluate, find the biggest weakness and if a trade is there, do it. Even for a first. Just don't do it now. Wait until some other team go to them with an offer and ***** him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Cuboirs said: It's not too late the 49ers just traded for Gregory without the need .Traded for CmC without the need aswell ...The dolphins traded for Claypool without the need ...And we have needs and will likely do nothing ..that's how you build a winner... Actually I think the Finns do have a need. Not this year but when they are cap constrained and unable to resign Waddle who is an UFA after next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 hours ago, benderbender said: Knox’s play after such a huge contract makes him a chess piece. One of Beane's worst moves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Look at DEN, CAR, LVR, AZ, NYG, CHI, MIN rosters...see anything you like? Then you make some calls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, ngbills said: Look at DEN, CAR, LVR, AZ, NYG, CHI, MIN rosters...see anything you like? Then you make some calls. Well, there’s this MLB in CHI that I keep hearing good things about, but he just seems too young. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 hours ago, benderbender said: Knox’s play after such a huge contract makes him a chess piece. His play before the contract was hardly better. People came in their pants over 9 short tds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I doubt a trade. Will grab someone off another PS or someone cut earlier in the season. Next man up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 hours ago, buffblue said: He's not untouchable for sure His contract is though. 14 hours ago, John from Riverside said: If we make a trade, I hope it’s for an offensive weapon Tired of devoting so many resources to this defense Another WR would be a force multiplier beyond anything another LB, DT, or even CB could be. It would also mean another competitive AFC team did not get that guy. At some point, the mindset of balancing offense with defense has to be jettisoned. They've got some pass rush and sure there could be improvements on the back end, but finding a true complement to Diggs makes this offense a force and should be prioritized. It also means Gabe can play the WR3 role an gives Kincaid more time develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Too many injury holes to fill with trades. Need the depth to step up. Might back fill the depth. But I think the message will be there's no cavalry coming so do your part. Only possible trade might be CB depth, given the lack of faith in Elam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Beane has been pretty clear - he wants a long-term contender. We have good depth at LB and CB, and good players stepping in for the injured guys. To actually get better players in those positions would require some real capital, and compromise longer-term team building. I could see us raiding a practice squad or 2 for better depth in case some of the replacements get hurt - but that's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Look at DEN, CAR, LVR, AZ, NYG, CHI, MIN rosters...see anything you like? Then you make some calls. Half the Giants roster played here, so they know the Bills system. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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