Bills Bud Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Cool. I hope they do or it’s just going to blow up during the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Im sorry, but I don’t view Diggs as the make or break for a Super Bowl run. If that’s the case, then Allen isn’t elite. We can’t trade him for nothing, but if somehow circumvented the cap nightmare of trading Diggs and got back someone like Sutton or Jeudy, plus picks, I’m still expecting this offense to be elite. ….I’m expecting that because Allen is elite, and there would be enough talent (provided the OL is better) to accomplish that. Your last line is my biggest concern, IF the line is better, then you have the extra split second to work with. We don’t know that it’s better, we can hope a rookie and a mid-level guard make it all better, but it’s no guarantee of anything. I don’t want to see a massive downgrade at a known point to hope for an upgrade with a couple of unknowns and we still have no clue how RT is going to play out. Diggs may be a Diva, but he’s a top 5 WR, they don’t grow on trees. I do think Allen will elevate whoever they put out there, but the whole team’s success can’t be pinned solely on Allen, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Bills are known for their leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Loser wants to win. Can't have that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: Publicly they continue to say he isn't for trade, but apparently privately they would be open to it under the right circumstances...allegedly. If this report is true, what do you think the "right circumstances" would be? https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-privately-open-traiding-stefon-diggs/amp/ It’s fiction Turk. They are on the dead cap hit of an insurmountable amount of $. Like $40 mil. This is fear mongering. cmon buddy, you’re better than this silliness. Why would we ever move one of the top 3 we in the league and for an insane cap hit. Two words. It’s JUNE. Dead news time. Moving on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) If this is about target; there really aren’t any/many more to go around. I don’t know how you go about fixing this in that scenario. He was 4/10 35 yards vs Cincinnati in the playoffs. All this over targets/no targets on the 10 play drive down by 14? Come on. I hope it works out, but otherwise at some point you have to just say deuces. Edited June 22, 2023 by Mango Add on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 just not jets or dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 So many by products of not having a RB1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I just don’t see this as anything more than offseason filler talks based on nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceSlayne Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Heavy.com is the furthest reaching website I've ever seen. If anything they said actually happened the Bills would have every good receiver and running back in the NFL and still have cap space to sign whoever they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: Publicly they continue to say he isn't for trade, but apparently privately they would be open to it under the right circumstances...allegedly. If this report is true, what do you think the "right circumstances" would be? https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-privately-open-traiding-stefon-diggs/amp/ Why would you post such stupid *****? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s fiction Turk. They are on the dead cap hit of an insurmountable amount of $. Like $40 mil. This is fear mongering. cmon buddy, you’re better than this silliness. Why would we ever move one of the top 3 we in the league and for an insane cap hit. Two words. It’s JUNE. Dead news time. Moving on. It’s not $40M. It’s $13M with a trade today, and that saves us about $1.5M. We would have to eat $31M next year in Dead cap. But that’s only $3M more than keeping him on the roster. It’s inconvenient, but possible. Diggs and Morse for Mike Evans and a 1. Trading Morse now frees up more space next year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mango said: It’s not $40M. It’s $13M with a trade today, and that saves us about $1.5M. We would have to eat $31M next year in Dead cap. But that’s only $3M more than keeping him on the roster. It’s inconvenient, but possible. Diggs and Morse for Mike Evans and a 1. Trading Morse now frees up more space next year. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/ I could actually be ok w that trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 The main thing that worries me about Diggs is that when things go wrong, or are challenging, his juvenile attitude will resurface. It’s too much of a headache to constantly appease the guy. The Bills knew what they were getting into when they made this trade. Perhaps they should’ve waited a bit on that substantial pay raise to a malcontent 30 year old receiver. “If those lies help you sleep better at night big dawg…” Was that about Allen? Or some other totally unrelated situation that just happens to fit at the present time? Be competitive, fine, but don’t be a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Do people not understand what the cap hit would be if we traded Stefon Diggs? We are talking about literally $40 million on next year’s cap. That is what we would pay whether he was on our team or not. It is literally money we have already paid him. Come on, let’s do some research, brothers and sisters How have you factored in the player(s) to be acquired in your calculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, SCBills said: Im sorry, but I don’t view Diggs as the make or break for a Super Bowl run. If that’s the case, then Allen isn’t elite. We can’t trade him for nothing, but if somehow circumvented the cap nightmare of trading Diggs and got back someone like Sutton or Jeudy, plus picks, I’m still expecting this offense to be elite. ….I’m expecting that because Allen is elite, and there would be enough talent (provided the OL is better) to accomplish that. This has been my take. A lot of people on here keep dogging on Davis as not being a “legitimate” #2. I argue that he’s fine. Coupled with Diggs that’s a great tandem. If Allen is who we think he is then that’s a dynamic duo. If they continue to fail and fans keep clamoring for more and more weapons then Allen isn’t as elite as most think he is. Having said all that taking Diggs away would crippling for the offense. He’s a true #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I think psychedelics should be legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Good lord. The Bills are completely committed to Diggs salary-wise, and trading him would put tons of dead cap on the Bills for two years. This is pure speculation and total bullcrapola. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Classic example of Fake News Its ridiculous how much this story has been overblown. Can’t wait for training camp to begin so we can move on from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Heavy is the biggest clickbait site. I believe more in a weegie board The spirits are very angry with you for absolutely butchering “Ouija board” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Max Fischer said: Buffalo has one of the best press corps in the league, and not ONE reporter has hinted at this possibility. Just stop. Obviously I can’t really speculate on the press that covers other teams, but if Buffalo is one of the best, then there must be an awful lot of terrible ones 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Bills Bud said: Cool. I hope they do or it’s just going to blow up during the season Is it worth losing $20MM+ in cap room? Because that's what'll happen if we move Diggs. Think before acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) Not for $300 million dollars and 1 million Alpacas. Edited June 23, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Not for $300 million dollars and 2 million Alpacas. What if we throw in some goats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Stefon Diggs, what a GREAT leader! Probably my favorite player - mentally tough (Exactly what a majority of the Bills are missing), + completely devoted to the team, the game and our fans. I can honestly say, I would go to war with this guy (I served 26 years in the US Army, served in a variety of leadership roles and supporting deployments - that doesn't make me right on this subject, but I think it says something good about Stefon). I just love his leadership, which probably doesn't come across as refined sometimes - but I suspect he doesn't have any formal leadership training. However, I can clearly see he has all the intangibles of a great leader! Mental toughness, endurance, totally dedicated, loyal, says and does what's right - even when others challenged by others. I am going to miss him - I strongly suspect these trade rumors are spot on / accurate and are feelers put out by insiders at One Bills Drive to protect the management (GM, et al) in case things dont work out. Right circumstances - probably something which mostly mitigates any financial / salary cap catastrophe + gets some receiving help in return. I just read the Denver Broncos are interested here. So (only my thoughts, speculation here) .... Jerry Jeudy? Plus some salary cap compensation ? .....TBD. I hate the thought of him leaving but I sense its going to happen - hope I'm wrong. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) The only reason I give these rumors any credence is because I do suspect this may be a Josh Allen / Stefon Diggs issue. And if that’s, for whatever reason, irreparable.. Diggs won’t be long for the squad. Edited June 23, 2023 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: Stefon Diggs, what a GREAT leader! Probably my favorite player - mentally tough (Exactly what a majority of the Bills are missing), + completely devoted to the team, the game and our fans. I can honestly say, I would go to war with this guy (I served 26 years in the US Army, served in a variety of leadership roles and supporting deployments - that doesn't make me right on this subject, but I think it says something good about Stefon). I just love his leadership, which probably doesn't come across as refined sometimes - but I suspect he doesn't have any formal leadership training. However, I can clearly see he has all the intangibles of a great leader! Mental toughness, endurance, totally dedicated, loyal, says and does what's right - even when others challenged by others. I am going to miss him - I strongly suspect these trade rumors are spot on / accurate and are feelers put out by insiders at One Bills Drive to protect the management (GM, et al) in case things dont work out. Right circumstances - probably something which mostly mitigates any financial / salary cap catastrophe + gets some receiving help in return. I just read the Denver Broncos are interested here. So (only my thoughts, speculation here) .... Jerry Jeudy? Plus some salary cap compensation ? .....TBD. I hate the thought of him leaving but I sense its going to happen - hope I'm wrong. Couldn't disagree more with your comments. First, this rumor is not close to being true. Secondly, I wouldn't consider him much of a leader at all. Quite the opposite actually. He's selfish and puts his own interests ahead of the team when he feels like it, with no concern about the disruption caused to the team. That's not a leader. Great WR though. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Couldn't disagree more with your comments. First, this rumor is not close to being true. Secondly, I wouldn't consider him much of a leader at all. Quite the opposite actually. He's selfish and puts his own interests ahead of the team when he feels like it, with no concern about the disruption caused to the team. That's not a leader. Great WR though. The players voted him a captain … because they obviously thought he had good qualities tons of talented players ARENT captains devils advocate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: I hate the thought of him leaving but I sense its going to happen - hope I'm wrong. Do you really? Don't worry. Diggs isn't going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The players voted him a captain … because they obviously thought he had good qualities tons of talented players ARENT captains devils advocate It's definitely an interesting development. It's pretty common knowledge that the team didn't put forth it's best efforts in multiple facets of the game. He's competitive and wants to win, not just regular season like some, but playoffs, and he too like Allen and most others wants a Championship. Since we don't have all the info it's difficult to really make a determination as to the reality of it all. Is he pissed at coaching miscues and other SNAFUs? Does he really want the ball more? That's a little difficult to imagine other than that he had double-digit targets 6 times in his first 9 games but only thrice in his last nine games. First 9 he averaged 11 targets/game, last 9 he averaged just over 8/game, but 9 & 10 in the two playoff games, included in that last 9. until we know it's difficult to pin it down. Always nice to have all the info first. I'm not holding my breath that we'll ever get it. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Do you really? Don't worry. Diggs isn't going anywhere. I agree but I also think he's going to be a major distraction. Similar to the Minn situation. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Under the right circumstances I would be willing to purchase the Bills outright from the Pegulas. Now we aren't going to talk about this certain set of circumstances, just know it may be true 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 A “new report”. What report? From who? There was no report- it’s just a statement this smells like **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: 58 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Couldn't disagree more with your comments. First, this rumor is not close to being true. Secondly, I wouldn't consider him much of a leader at all. Quite the opposite actually. He's selfish and puts his own interests ahead of the team when he feels like it, with no concern about the disruption caused to the team. That's not a leader. Great WR though. A few things, (In response to your quotes): - "First, this rumor is not close to being true." I stated, "I strongly suspect..." What inside information do you have to validate / invalidate what's being reported? Do you work for the team? Are you an agent? Family member / close friend of Stefon Diggs? Not even close to being true" - that's one hell of a definitive statement for someone to make. What makes your assessment more accurate than mine? - "Secondly, I wouldn't consider him much of a leader at all. Quite the opposite actually." Again, what''s your assessment based on? I stated what my assessment is based on (My work experience in a demanding field for 26 years). What is yours based on ? How do you know ? - "He's selfish and puts his own interests ahead of the team when he feels like it, with no concern about the disruption caused to the team." Hmmm, Prior to each game, he engages with the fan base. He's served as a "Captain" on the team each year he's been in Buffalo (Voted on by his teammates no less) He makes a lot of charitable contributions (Nationally and locally to the residents of Buffalo). He's absolutely consistent in his performance on the field. He always encourages his teammates to do better, to be better. And to you, "That's not a leader." Interesting. I would like to know what your leadership credentials and experience are - to validate your assessments. 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: A “new report”. What report? From who? There was no report- it’s just a statement this smells like **** Google it, the number of media 'reports' are increasing. That doesn't make it accurate, but there are "reports." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 If Diggs’ issue is not getting the ball more good thing we didn’t sign Hopkins. He’d take a lot of Diggs targets away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: A “new report”. What report? From who? There was no report- it’s just a statement this smells like **** I heard a report that the Bills are privately open to trading Josh Allen. I can't wait to be quoted by the media in two days. 😂 12 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: Google it, the number of media 'reports' are increasing. That doesn't make it accurate, but there are "reports." As seen with the stupid "Diggs isn't happy that we didn't get Hopkins report", one part of the media says it and then the rest of the sports media latch on citing the single report with no basis. It doesn't have to be true. It is content that gets them clicks in one of the most content sparse times of the football year. Edited June 23, 2023 by What a Tuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNutHawaii Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I heard a report that the Bills are privately open to trading Josh Allen. I can't wait to be quoted by the media in two days. 😂 As seen with the stupid "Diggs isn't happy that we didn't get Hopkins report", one part of the media says it and then the rest of the sports media latch on citing the single report with no basis. It doesn't have to be true. It is content that gets them clicks in one of the most content sparse times of the football year. You asked, 'What report?" I answered. What's truthful and accurate - that's an entirely different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: Publicly they continue to say he isn't for trade, but apparently privately they would be open to it under the right circumstances...allegedly. If this report is true, what do you think the "right circumstances" would be? https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/bills-privately-open-traiding-stefon-diggs/amp/ Did you seriously use heavy.com as a source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, BillsNutHawaii said: Google it, the number of media 'reports' are increasing. That doesn't make it accurate, but there are "reports." media reports quoting the first report that just made it all up for clicks. “privately and secretly”. 🤣 how about No….. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: I would imagine that would factor into the right circumstances part... it would make the circumstances impossible. unless the right circumstance starts with “the year is 2025…” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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