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RD 1, Pick 25: TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah


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It is pretty apparent to me, after countless minutes observing Kincaid's demeanor and physiognomy, as well as his highlight videos, that we are looking at an all-time Bill, who will be one of the first supporting cast members we think of when we look back on Josh Allen's career

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10 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

As a guy of Italian extraction who loves to cook and learned to cook from an extended family of PHENOMENAL Italian female cooks, your fake Italian stuff disgusts me!  Really does!  For God's sake, do it the right way, it won't cost that much more....even if you were a starving college kid or whatever.

 

Having said that, if you enjoyed the food back then, I guess mission accomplished! 

😀

 

9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Yes the inclusion of Dinty Moore Beef Stew ruined any culinary positive vibe I had.

 

I worked in fine dining in the 80's... before their was a foodie movement... before the Food Network, etc.

 

I'm actually a pretty accomplished cook but those were destitute days and believe it or don't, i could stretch a tight grocery budget.

 

Yeah Dinty Moore is one step up from dog food but if you know how to cook, you can actually make it palatable.

 

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On 5/9/2023 at 9:15 PM, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Right but you should ask yourself why no one here thought that until after the Bills selected him lol

 

I think he can be a solid NFL recieving tight end and I am not angry about the selection. People were comparing him to Antonio Gates & Travis Kelce though, like, calm down

He was 1 of 4 players I posted that I HAD to have in the draft to be excited about the pick…And IIRC there were several fans who loved the idea of Kincaid to the Bills, as well…👍

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On 5/9/2023 at 9:15 PM, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Right but you should ask yourself why no one here thought that until after the Bills selected him lol

 

I think he can be a solid NFL recieving tight end and I am not angry about the selection. People were comparing him to Antonio Gates & Travis Kelce though, like, calm down

Because i dont think anyone here expected him to fall to us. Most projected him in 15-20 range. Based off our visits it seemed we were gonna wait until round 3-5 to address the TE position behind Knox. But when someone of his caliber falls you take him and put them om the field together.

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1 hour ago, Kmart128 said:

Because i dont think anyone here expected him to fall to us. Most projected him in 15-20 range. Based off our visits it seemed we were gonna wait until round 3-5 to address the TE position behind Knox. But when someone of his caliber falls you take him and put them om the field together.

I didn’t expect Kincaid to fall to us but I had Kincaid, JSN and Addison as my top 3 on my wish list.  
 

Dude you’re replying to is just making stuff up.  “No one wanted him prior to us drafting him”.  🧰 

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3 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

No more "lunch pail guys" 😔

 

The Bengal players are lunch pail guys, but that’s only because the Bengals are too cheap to pay for lunch, so that’s different. 

 

They are a bad matchup for us now, but I don’t know how many more guys they can sign after Burrow. Will they shell out hundreds of millions of dollars to put in escrow for the guaranteed portions of contracts for the surrounding talent?  IDK. 🤷‍♂️

 

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21 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said:

He's a glorified WR. Those cuts are insane at his size. 

 

Yeah that last clip from Sal shows off his skill set. Speed on the release, sharp cut in, catch the ball and continue running upfield in one fluid motion. I haven't been this excited about a Bills rookie in at least the last decade.

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17 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah that last clip from Sal shows off his skill set. Speed on the release, sharp cut in, catch the ball and continue running upfield in one fluid motion. I haven't been this excited about a Bills rookie in at least the last decade.

Not even Allen? I know he started out rough but he definitely showed promise.

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19 minutes ago, Gambit said:

Not even Allen? I know he started out rough but he definitely showed promise.

 

I confess I hated the Josh Allen pick at the time so I was a little more apprehensive about him as a rookie. Kincaid I feel is a sure thing and can take this offense to another level. Every year I have one or two draft crushes that I don't really expect to be there when we pick. Kincaid is the first time I can remember that my draft crush fell to us and we took him.

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50 minutes ago, Gambit said:

Not even Allen? I know he started out rough but he definitely showed promise.

I can understand the mindset.   I was more excited about Kincaid a week after the draft than I was Allen.  At that time,  Allen  was a massive gamble.  Oh he is inaccurate, from a small school blah blah blah.  I really got excited re Allen after an incredible TD pass he completed in preseason versus Carolina? threading the needle between two defenders  a pass very very few NFL QBs could complete.

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22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I confess I hated the Josh Allen pick at the time so I was a little more apprehensive about him as a rookie. Kincaid I feel is a sure thing and can take this offense to another level. Every year I have one or two draft crushes that I don't really expect to be there when we pick. Kincaid is the first time I can remember that my draft crush fell to us and we took him.

That definitely makes sense. I don't follow college much, so when I see people like you so excited for a player like Kincaid, it gets me pumped. I really hope he tears up the middle of the field for us. His route running looks really smooth.

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah that last clip from Sal shows off his skill set. Speed on the release, sharp cut in, catch the ball and continue running upfield in one fluid motion. I haven't been this excited about a Bills rookie in at least the last decade.

 

I find myself trying to temper my emotions and expectations, but he sure looks special. He’s just so fluid and makes it look so easy. 

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28 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I can understand the mindset.   I was more excited about Kincaid a week after the draft than I was Allen.  At that time,  Allen  was a massive gamble.  Oh he is inaccurate, from a small school blah blah blah.  I really got excited re Allen after an incredible TD pass he completed in preseason versus Carolina? threading the needle between two defenders  a pass very very few NFL QBs could complete.

Allen was considered a massive gamble only by talking head pundits spewing nonsense about an arbitrary 60% completion threshold and how nobody with his college numbers ever made it in the NFL. And people just ran with that narrative as if it were gospel. 
 

But NFL scouts and GMs never considered him a “massive gamble” in the least. After his 2016 college season, he had cemented himself as a future top 10 pick in the draft. They were able to review every pass attempt at Wyoming and break it down in detail, including with input from his coaches. Why? To add the context necessary to make a more informed analysis. Taking head pundits simply lack the time and resources necessary to vet prospects to that level of scrutiny. Especially QBs prospects, which are the most difficult to project. 
 

That’s just those aspects that pertain to his physical ability to succeed. Allen’s aptitude for the position, from both a schematic and leadership ability standpoint was off the charts. Something, again, his critics weren’t privy to. He blew people away with his recall ability and whiteboard breakdowns. Daboll said he never saw anyone like him when it came to that mental aspect. I’ve heard that echoed by a few others as well. 
 

The only real concern about Allen was his sheer inexperience at the position as he didn’t attend elite QB camps since middle school nor make it his singular focus in high school. But everyone agreed that could be mitigated with time in a pro system with pro coaches learning the intricacies of the position. As it turned out he wasn’t afforded the time and instead was forced to start much sooner than hope for. And his progression speaks well of all the things the scouts and GMs got right before he was drafted. 
 

Lucky us.

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