dgrochester55 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 We are not as good as everyone thought in early 2022 or as bad as everyone thinks we are after the loss to the Bengals. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Defense will again let us down....this time it will be during the season. The offense will have a down year with new parts and Dorsey just not getting the job done. Wildcard....maybe. Tough schedule. Coach that's stretched thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said: We are not as good as everyone thought in early 2022 or as bad as everyone thinks we are after the loss to the Bengals. That is a thought provoking statement. However, I immediately flashed to the response: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 10:59 AM, Shortchaz said: I’d trade josh Allen for an all-time elite defense. a serviceable passing game, and stud running back. and you'd end up being the Titans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Josh Allen should try running out of bounds and sliding more when he has the chance to, instead of playing "Tough Guy". Bad o-line play is not an excuse for Josh to try and run over defenders or leap over them when he has a chance to avoid a big hit. Josh is big and strong, but there is always someone bigger and stronger ready to light his ass up. Josh fans here blame the o-line for Josh taking on defenders head on, instead of just getting out of bounds or sliding. Two things can be true. The o-line needs improvement and so does Josh's awareness. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Not having a dome will prevent this team from winning a Super Bowl and eventually Allen will move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Bills are everyone's fricking Miss Congeniality. This team has a soft underbelly on each line; they play soft coverage in the secondary; they fail to exploit obvious defensive weaknesses of opponents. Just soft, soft, soft. Their talent wins them games against inferior opponents but they get their ass handed to them by the better teams who are aggressive and actually game plan to and have the talent to exploit the Bills weaknesses. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) The Von Miller signing was not needed and has already set the organization back. You dont beat teams like the Chiefs and Bengals with defense, you beat them by outscoring them. The money should have been used on a #2 wideout. Dawson Knox is an average tight end who benefits greatly from Josh scrambling in the redzone. The Bills paid him 2x his worth by extending him and should have let him test free agency. Tremaine Edmunds was slightly above average and at time maddening to watch while he was here. He deserved one pro bowl during his time here and that was last season. I am glad the Bills didnt pay him. Mitch Morse is vastly underrated by fans. Dion Dawkins is a good LT when he is in shape. I never found McKenzie funny or entertaining. Got the feeling he was a few cards short of a full deck. Diggs act has wore on me and I would fully support him not being on the team when his contract allows for it. I have no issue with Rex Ryan. Edited March 28, 2023 by thenorthremembers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Josh Allen will deliver a speech at Sean McDermott's HOF induction ceremony. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The roster last year depended too heavily on players over 30 -- the Bills need to get younger - they do not need to add additional overpriced 30 - something players to the roster. I can't understand the clamor by some to add additional expensive & over-priced veterans to the roster (Hopkins, OBJ, etc.). We need to draft well & sign younger, up & coming free agents to improve - not older guys with "name recognition". Look at some of these names (all over 30) that were on last season's roster - many of these players were heavily relied upon (although some were just bit players): - M. Barkley - C. Beasley - Hyde - D. Jones - G. Mancz - S. Martin - T. Matakevich - V. Miller -M. Morse - J. Poyer - Quessenberry - T. Jones - AJ Klein - D. Marlowe - J. Phillips - R. Saffold - G. Van Roten I am not sure of how this list stacks up the rosters of our competitors - and I know that we have already moved on from a number of the players on this list - but in my opinion our roster needs to get younger for use to maintain our status as one of the top teams in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:18 AM, KDIGGZ said: Bills missed their Super Bowl window and are in decline I wonder if Chiefs and Bengals fans have this same loser mentality with their franchise QBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: I wonder if Chiefs and Bengals fans have this same loser mentality with their franchise QBs. Chiefs fans are happy with two rings. Bengals fans might be a little more worried. Eagles fans might be concerned too after the exodus of talent they just had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Super Bowl 28 was just or if not more winnable than Super Bowl 25 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Not having a dome will prevent this team from winning a Super Bowl and eventually Allen will move on. He does have an opt-out somewhere I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The Hammer Lot is boring and has too many dumb rules and uptight people running it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshynman Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 12:07 PM, TampaBillsJunkie said: 1. We should have protected Hodgins. 2. Dorsey is the problem on offense. He's didn't put his players in a position to succeed and Hines was woefully under utilized. 3. Ed Oliver is undersized and should not be in the middle of the D-line. 4. We needed more out of our MLB than Edmonds, especially at the cost. Sign Bobby Wagner. 1. eh it happens. 2. Dorsey drew up play that had receivers running routes where they ended up in the same spot or next to each other. Both being covered. They were terrible. We hardly ever saw a WR wide up inside the 20, like we did with Diaboll. 3. OK player, not the all pro we needed. 4. Wagner resigned with LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Here’s my unpopular Bills opinion: the Bills will win the AFCE again this year with 13 or more wins and will host the AFC playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I have very little faith in Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, Bulldog said: The roster last year depended too heavily on players over 30 -- the Bills need to get younger - they do not need to add additional overpriced 30 - something players to the roster. I can't understand the clamor by some to add additional expensive & over-priced veterans to the roster (Hopkins, OBJ, etc.). We need to draft well & sign younger, up & coming free agents to improve - not older guys with "name recognition". Look at some of these names (all over 30) that were on last season's roster - many of these players were heavily relied upon (although some were just bit players): - M. Barkley - C. Beasley - Hyde - D. Jones - G. Mancz - S. Martin - T. Matakevich - V. Miller -M. Morse - J. Poyer - Quessenberry - T. Jones - AJ Klein - D. Marlowe - J. Phillips - R. Saffold - G. Van Roten I am not sure of how this list stacks up the rosters of our competitors - and I know that we have already moved on from a number of the players on this list - but in my opinion our roster needs to get younger for use to maintain our status as one of the top teams in the league. It would help if they hit more often on premium draft picks. It would be great to bring in a young wr2 with room to develop into a wr1. No one is against that. Problem is this is a weak draft for wr and there probably won't be that player at 27. Folks think we need an upgrade now to match the best competition in a run for a SB. That's why players like Hopkins and OBJ are in the discussion. Everyone would prefer a younger, cost-controlled option, but that has to be attainable to actually be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 The Von Miller signing was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 12:04 PM, QB Bills said: James Cook is a below average RB and is a significant step down from Motor. 2022 draft was disgusting, Bills felt they only had a few holes in the roster and clearly reached on players that filled those needs. James Cook as small receiving RB in the second round is so bad, such poor value at pick 60. The guy is way too small and soft, now we are going to miss out on some good RBs in this draft, not that we have any hope of identifying RB talent anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 10:38 AM, wppete said: Truth hurst sometimes. Poor front office and HC. His point is: if the board is flooded with it, by definition it is NOT an unpopular opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: I wonder if Chiefs and Bengals fans have this same loser mentality with their franchise QBs. I lived in the Cincinnati Area for a number of years & still have family & friends down there (some of whom are, unfortunately Bengals fans). I can attest that many Bengals fans are paranoid about not being able to go all the way to a Super Bowl win. Their paranoia seems to rival that of many Bills fans ... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 6:37 PM, BillsPride12 said: This has pretty much been my internal struggle with my season tickets the last few years. I think at this point I've come to the conclusion I'm just going to ride it out until the new stadium is constructed. Not only is this an unpopular opinion but a terrible one as well 😄 Josh has the strongest arm out of any QB in the league and is also the most athletically gifted, whatever offseason training he does is just fine I'm not saying Allen has to look like this, but you watch Richardson's Pro Day and then Levis with this photo and I'm sorry Allen is not doing everything he can to be in the best shape for the season. Bottom line is I don't want him to be Ben Roethlisberger in the end (yes I know he has two Super Bowls) where he's out there with a keg belly and is 264 pounds, where he does one yoga session in the Summer to get ready for the season. Allen runs more, which means the pass rush is coming for him more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Josh Allen made Stefon Diggs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The sinks in the stadium men's rooms were designed to be pissed in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 If corporate dreamed up "Bills mafia" for the fans, most of you would hate it. "Bills Mafia...brought to you...by Tops!" 850 million in public cash for a football stadium, regardless of where it is, shouldn't happen. The ownership of the Bills is more fragile than it appears. The Pegulas, IMO, are spread very thin as NFL owners. They have a plethora of business interests to manage, and continue to acquire or create new lines of business. Terry is 72, Kim's health is unknown, and their children aren't discussed as heirs apparent to PSE. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I'm not saying Allen has to look like this, but you watch Richardson's Pro Day and then Levis with this photo and I'm sorry Allen is not doing everything he can to be in the best shape for the season. Bottom line is I don't want him to be Ben Roethlisberger in the end (yes I know he has two Super Bowls) where he's out there with a keg belly and is 264 pounds, where he does one yoga session in the Summer to get ready for the season. Allen runs more, which means the pass rush is coming for him more. Allen plays real sports... not tryin to be the best at exercising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 4:46 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: True, but hiding these expressions behind false links? Well some have own gender issues to deal with and maybe a couple of restraining orders. On 3/26/2023 at 5:18 PM, Zerovoltz said: The Bills should move to Toronto ***DUCKS and runs out the door as quickly as possible*** On 3/26/2023 at 6:19 PM, Rico said: The Chiefs should move to St. Louis. They should move back to Dallass where they came from and pay Jerry Jones to play in his sandbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 48 minutes ago, dpberr said: If corporate dreamed up "Bills mafia" for the fans, most of you would hate it. "Bills Mafia...brought to you...by Tops!" Nothing will ever top the sheer obtuseness of the Bells 'Whammy Weenie'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Nothing will ever top the sheer obtuseness of the Bells 'Whammy Weenie'. No whammies. My hot take is the Bills won't be able to release Hamlin even if he's clearly not up on the safety depth chart because it'd be a media debacle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 That we will never win a Superbowl with McD as HC and will end up looking back on what could have been with #17. Hopefully we can still win one if we can McD someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 OBJ is overrated and would not help Bills offense relative to amount he would be overpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Allen plays real sports... not tryin to be the best at exercising. Okay, but the majority of NFL players lift weights correct? 49 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: That we will never win a Superbowl with McD as HC and will end up looking back on what could have been with #17. Hopefully we can still win one if we can McD someday. Are we trending towards being the 2008-2022 Packers? Elite QB, one great WR, taking defense in the 1st Round constantly. 1 SB win, and a bunch of disappointing Playoff losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Okay, but the majority of NFL players lift weights correct? Are we trending towards being the 2008-2022 Packers? Elite QB, one great WR, taking defense in the 1st Round constantly. 1 SB win, and a bunch of disappointing Playoff losses. Oh mine was just a joke from Eastbound and down 🙂. I have a few thoughts on QBs and lifting weights. Yes its important to exercise, however looking like a shredded bodybuilder does literally nothing to improve performance on the field. It won't generate more arm strength, won't make you much faster, and exposes you to a possible litany of injuries. Like how stupid would you feel if Allen tore his pec lifting or something dumb like that? I'd rather he just run to keep the cardio up, lift weights occasionally (and probably keep it to a couple times a week, with comparatively low weights to his teammates), and do things like yoga and pilates to avoid anything relating to soft tissue injuries like hamstrings and groin pulls. Edited March 31, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Mass helps absorb hits and as long as Josh is not overdoing I am fine with that part of workout. He should work with Milano's personal trainer on increasing his core strength however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Okay, but the majority of NFL players lift weights correct? Are we trending towards being the 2008-2022 Packers? Elite QB, one great WR, taking defense in the 1st Round constantly. 1 SB win, and a bunch of disappointing Playoff losses. I mean I definitely want more but as a Bills fan if this is what this era ends up being I'll take the damn SB Win all day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Okay, but the majority of NFL players lift weights correct? Are we trending towards being the 2008-2022 Packers? Elite QB, one great WR, taking defense in the 1st Round constantly. 1 SB win, and a bunch of disappointing Playoff losses. I think so, although I don’t think we’ll even get 1 with McD here. Have to hope he steps down at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Tre'davious White was never the "shutdown corner" we tried to convince ourselves he was. And now his ceiling is as an average CB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It won't generate more arm strength, won't make you much faster, and exposes you to a possible litany of injuries. How do you know that lifting weights would not generate arm strength or make him much faster? What is the proof of that statement? Allen is carrying flab, other than crashing into defenders with more weight, what exactly is he gaining with that physique? Keeping some pudding on makes him less vulnerable to injury? I see a comparable Justin Herbert doing the extract opposite. 6’6” and hitting the weight room and tightening up. I said I don’t expect Will Levis bodybuilder, but Allen has zero definition and is sporting a gut. Eli Manning and his beach dad bod has Allen beat, sorry don’t buy that it’s helping him in some way. You can see this Bills team is somewhat maxed out. Low cost OLineman in FA, spare parts WR added in FA, trying to keep the defense together for another run, picking in the low 20’s consistently. He’s making $45M now so there just isn’t room to add much more than filler players. One lever that Allen could pull to see if another level is possible is physique, because roughly his last three seasons have been the same output and we all know there is a gap to Mahomes and the Chiefs. So what other avenues does Allen have to close that gap? Edited March 31, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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