Stefon Diggs - “I watched the game five times”

[BillsFan619]

There’s been some rumblings about him becoming Minnesota Diggs or that we should trade him.

 

I realize there were a couple moments throughout the season that Diggs could’ve handled himself better. That said, like his teammates and coaches have said, Diggs is the ultimate competitor.

 

This article reveals just that. If you’re concerned about Stef read this really good article. Try to read it from the angle of a professional who wants to figure things out so they can win instead of from the angle of someone trying to cause trouble/drama that needs to be traded. Any successful person is going to ask the tough questions so they can get better.

 

I’m not justifying every public emotion he had this past season but I’m so glad we have him. He’s a leader who wants to get better, who wants his team to thrive and who wants to win it all.

 

"It felt like the world was pulling for us and we let them down…it weighs on your emotions a little bit, especially considering Buffalo is that tight knit, family town…you want to win for them.”

 

#14

 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/stefon-diggs-end-of-buffalo-bills-season-just-didn-t-make-any-sense-to-me/article_0ec9119a-a975-11ed-adbe-ff721b179efb.html

Edited February 11, 2023 by BillsFan619

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The guy is the best WR the Bills have ever had. Do not get rid of him. The goal is to be better, not worse 

[Big Blitz]

I think he knows the coaches don’t have it.  
 

His “it’s been 3 years” response to getting over the hump is pretty telling. 
 

He could have said “I trust the staff to get it right or where we need to be.”

 

 

I’m not going to defend him.  I’m not going to call this disruptive either or that he’s a problem.

 

I am going to say this staff was finished the second that 13 seconds happened.  

[The Wiz]

I'm not going to say that his attitude is anything other than someone that wants to win but at the same time, the rest of the team is/was already feeling it and adding on another emotional factor isn't what they needed.

[Richard Noggin]

Get just one or two more guys with Diggs's determination (and/or keep em healthy...Hyde and Miller) and I don't think the team deflates quite like that.

 

Although, to be fair, it really did feel like the Cinci game was an unavoidable reckoning. They looked ready to romp the Bills the first time around (I know, I know, it was early in the game), and then absolutely dismantled the Bills in the divisional round. 

 

Nonetheless, more Diggs and less mediocrity. That's the winning formula.

[US Egg]

Watched it 5x?

 

Is he a masochist?

 

Didn’t mean it in a perverted way, Ray

Edited February 11, 2023 by I am the egg man

[LABILLBACKER]

29 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy is the best WR the Bills have ever had. Do not get rid of him. The goal is to be better, not worse 

This team has 3 players whom I would never question their heart or passion to win.  Josh, Stefon and Matt.  These are the type of players you build around, not ever get rid of.

[Richard Noggin]

4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This team has 3 players whom I would never question their heart or passion to win.  Josh, Stefon and Matt.  These are the type of players you build around, not ever get rid of.

 

You wouldn't include Hyde?

[Buffalo Junction]

2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

You wouldn't include Hyde?

I’d probably throw Jordan Ohillips in there too. Playing DT with a torn shoulder is an exercise in masochism. 

[John from Riverside]

Any talk of trading diggs is ludicrous

[Richard Noggin]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I’d probably throw Jordan Ohillips in there too. Playing DT with a torn shoulder is an exercise in masochism. 

Jordan Phillips is obviously not on the level of Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano, and Hyde. He is talented, but he's streaky AF. We need more guys who don't ever wilt. More guys who are kinda unwilling to take losing in stride. More guys who won't accept stagnation.

[Best Williams Available]

This is a true competitor watching the game and not comprehending how his teammates folded like they did. It’s why he has no answers.
 

People taking this as being disruptive—the plane crashed already—he’s looking at the ashes and trying to figure out why, while the coaches and GM are gonna fly the exact same plane the same way next year and expect a smooth ride. We all should be skeptical, like Diggs, of that approach. 

[LABILLBACKER]

24 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

You wouldn't include Hyde?

Yes I'd probably include Hyde, Poyer, Von....but that's about it....doesn't mean we don't have players who want to win but these 6 are dawgs, warriors.

[Buffalo Junction]

1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said:

Jordan Phillips is obviously not on the level of Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano, and Hyde. He is talented, but he's streaky AF. We need more guys who don't ever wilt. More guys who are kinda unwilling to take losing in stride. More guys who won't accept stagnation.

He’s streaky, but he invests fully with this team. He could have easily gone on IR with a torn labrum. Instead he did his damndest to gut it out. Dude has six months of physical rehab and probably surgery coming his way this off-season. I’ll take that level of heart for my backups any day. I’m much more concerned with Tim Settle than Phillips. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy is the best WR the Bills have ever had. Do not get rid of him. The goal is to be better, not worse 

I think we are seeing Diggs' frustration with the Bills team.

 

He wants the ball and the Bills scheme, lack of weapons, and coaching/play calling limits his production. 

 

As the ultimate competitor he is going to voice his displeasure. Coach McD was able to squash some Diggs noise. However, that will become more difficult if the Bills can resolve these issues. He will become a problem just like we saw in Minn..

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I think he knows the coaches don’t have it.  
 

His “it’s been 3 years” response to getting over the hump is pretty telling. 
 

He could have said “I trust the staff to get it right or where we need to be.”

 

 

I’m not going to defend him.  I’m not going to call this disruptive either or that he’s a problem.

 

I am going to say this staff was finished the second that 13 seconds happened.  

Really great insight and post. Sadly, I agree with it. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Get just one or two more guys with Diggs's determination (and/or keep em healthy...Hyde and Miller) and I don't think the team deflates quite like that.

 

Although, to be fair, it really did feel like the Cinci game was an unavoidable reckoning. They looked ready to romp the Bills the first time around (I know, I know, it was early in the game), and then absolutely dismantled the Bills in the divisional round. 

 

Nonetheless, more Diggs and less mediocrity. That's the winning formula.

Truthfully, the winning formula has likely passed or at the very least is passing with wasted opportunities. 

 

The time to win was the last few years when Allen's contract didn't hurt the team's ability to spend and get game changing players. Make solid draft picks that upgrade your team especially on the oline. 

 

Fast forward to today and the Bills organization has clearly fallen short. No need to rehash the specifics. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy is the best WR the Bills have ever had. Do not get rid of him. The goal is to be better, not worse 

Best Wr Bills have had for last 20yrs no where near the best ever! 83 look him up & get back to me. 

[Herc11]

We need players that aren't going to except the failures of the past. Our coaches seem hell bent on rinsing and repeating. So hopefully a player like diggs can help influence some change and development with our young OC.

[LeGOATski]

He sounds like one of us when he says he re-watched it 5 times and just can't explain it.

 

That's exactly how I felt. The lack of game planning and intensity from the coaches/players was just so weird.

[Ray Stonada]

I love that he watched it five times to figure out what went wrong.
 

He should have been targeted more in that game. If they bracket him, scheme him open like they do with Chase or Jefferson. 

 

Buffalo needs five more guys with Diggs’ mentality.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Any talk of trading diggs is ludicrous

"I don't care!!!  Ludicrous trade, now!!!"

[JGMcD2]

3 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Truthfully, the winning formula has likely passed or at the very least is passing with wasted opportunities. 

 

The time to win was the last few years when Allen's contract didn't hurt the team's ability to spend and get game changing players. Make solid draft picks that upgrade your team especially on the oline. 

 

Fast forward to today and the Bills organization has clearly fallen short. No need to rehash the specifics. 

Alright well this means that there are only a handful of teams who can possibly win anything moving forward…. and the Chiefs are the only one with a QB on a big contract … because they’re doing it now that Mahomes contract kicked in. You’ve got like SF, JAX and maybe a few more? 
 

Bills can’t because of Allen’s contract 

 

Bengals won’t be able to because of Burrow and like 80% of their top players needing 2nd contracts. 
 

Chargers can’t once Herbert gets paid. 
 

Ravens can’t when Lamar gets paid. 
 

Vikings and Cowboys can’t because Cousins/Dak

 

Eagles are about to pay Hurts because he doesn’t have a 5th year option. 

Edited February 11, 2023 by JGMcD2

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I think he knows the coaches don’t have it.  
 

His “it’s been 3 years” response to getting over the hump is pretty telling. 
 

He could have said “I trust the staff to get it right or where we need to be.”

 

 

I’m not going to defend him.  I’m not going to call this disruptive either or that he’s a problem.

 

I am going to say this staff was finished the second that 13 seconds happened.  

Wrong on so many levels

[The Jokeman]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Any talk of trading diggs is ludicrous

Those that want to trade him are painting a scenario that Diggs wants to leave. So they have the mentality of if you don't like it you can go. Yet they don't understand that Diggs feeling of upset or frustration are just that and not cries that he wants out.

 

[4th&long]

I think it’s firmly on the coaching staff to get it right. We have the players to get the job done. It’s that simple.

[metbill]

At some point, there has to be some high level accountability.  Listening to the national shows we are back to the stigma of just are not able to win the big game.  The actual results back that up.  This year we were miles away from having a shot in the post season with not a lot of hope from a cap/draft standpoint of getting better.  Diggs only has 2-3 years left based on his age of peak performance, he needs to get over the hump now.

Edited February 11, 2023 by metbill
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[H2o]

Diggs needs a real Robin to him being Batman and they need to help Josh by fixing the OL. Do this and we're not sitting on the couch for the SB next year. 

[Governor]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I think he knows the coaches don’t have it.  
 

His “it’s been 3 years” response to getting over the hump is pretty telling. 
 

He could have said “I trust the staff to get it right or where we need to be.”

 

 

I’m not going to defend him.  I’m not going to call this disruptive either or that he’s a problem.

 

I am going to say this staff was finished the second that 13 seconds happened.  

I think it’s safe to say that players aren’t buying what McBeane is selling.

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

5 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Best Wr Bills have had for last 20yrs no where near the best ever! 83 look him up & get back to me. 

I’m fully aware of who else that slighted. Not taking anything away from Reed but Diggs is better.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

I saw Erik Turner said on Twitter that Diggs laid into Josh! Not sure what he said?

[Mr. WEO]

Bills need a mature leader.  Josh is still young.  Guys like Diggs aren't going to rally or calm or focus the team.  Hopefully Von Miller can be that guy again next season.  

[newcam2012]

 

What I'm saying is the Bills failed to fully take advantage of a friendly Allen initial contract. That was the big opportunity to make that Super Bowl run and upgrade the team with super stars. Solidify the trenches, obtain impact players, etc... Obviously, the Bills have failed on many levels.

 

Doesn't mean they can't improve, make good draft picks, get more from players on the roster, avoid or limit major injuries especially from impact players, pick up new players via trade or free agency.

 

A healthy Allen alone is probably worth 7 or 8 wins. Certainly, the Bills can still make runs and win the Super Bowl. I won't give up that dream. However, the chances seem to be slightly fading year by year. Especially, the last two years.

 

The Cinci and Miami  games was really eye opening for me. It really displayed the Bills weaknesses. For me, it's difficult to feel over enthusiastic and optimistic after such performances. 

 

Instead, the Bills are left with holes on both lines, weak WR core, wasted drafts picks, under performing draft picks, less impactful players, and early playoff exits.

 

With Allen's contract things become more difficult. Beane explicitly indicates states this. The numbers just get much tighter and the ability to sign or keep big names become significantly more difficult. 

 

The Bengals made their Super appearance last year and KC continues to be a powerhouse despite a crappy WR core an an average defense.  Clearly, the Bills are missing something that prevents them from advancement. It's more than luck that's missing when you whiff on playoffs advancements for six straight years. 

[McBean]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

I think he knows the coaches don’t have it.  
 

His “it’s been 3 years” response to getting over the hump is pretty telling. 
 

He could have said “I trust the staff to get it right or where we need to be.”

 

 

I’m not going to defend him.  I’m not going to call this disruptive either or that he’s a problem.

 

I am going to say this staff was finished the second that 13 seconds happened.  

spot on.

 

wont go anywhere until this entire staff is gone from top to bottom.

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The guy is the best WR the Bills have ever had. Do not get rid of him. The goal is to be better, not worse 

Current HOFers Reed & Lofton say ‘Hi!’ 👋

[Magox]

By the time we get to training camp and the start of the season he’ll be just fine, but if we begin to start losing and he isn’t getting the ball that much, watch out!   
Ultimately, I think the Bills will have another successful regular season and expect them to go far in the playoffs.

[BuffaloRebound]

It’s hard not to like Diggs, but his thirst for attention is disturbing.  Please get Josh another high end WR this off-season for a lot of reasons not the least of which is so Josh and the team don’t become hostage to this guy’s emotional outbursts.  

[Fan in Chicago]

47 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Bills need a mature leader.  Josh is still young.  Guys like Diggs aren't going to rally or calm or focus the team.  Hopefully Von Miller can be that guy again next season.  

For all the talk of "Process", we should have more than 1 leader in the locker room. Also, not sure about the dynamics in the locker room, but by now, I would have expected Allen to be one. 

[Beast]

Of course you keep him but he needs to handle himself better on the sidelines. He has an issue to bring up with a teammate sit down or stand next to that teammate and discuss it instead of flapping his arms in front of him acting like you’re cleared for takeoff.

[Awwufelloff]

Doing the same things over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. The Bills will be the same team next yr with no coaching changes. Diggs is frustrated and rightfully so. This is still a business and tough decisions need to be made for the betterment of the team. 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Awwufelloff

[Sargent Hulka]

6 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I think we are seeing Diggs' frustration with the Bills team.

 

He wants the ball and the Bills scheme, lack of weapons, and coaching/play calling limits his production. 

 

As the ultimate competitor he is going to voice his displeasure. Coach McD was able to squash some Diggs noise. However, that will become more difficult if the Bills can resolve these issues. He will become a problem just like we saw in Minn..

Really great insight and post. Sadly, I agree with it. 

Spot on! If the playoff futility continues, Diggs frustration will grow. At some point, seeing his prime years passing him by, he'll ask for a trade.