transplantbillsfan Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'll get behind this if we do it (for a reasonable price), but am I the only thinking he's not ideal? He's gonna be 31 this season. So what... we get 2 possibly good years out of him and pay him a boatload of cash? And I'm sure it's been talked about, but how's Diggs handling this? I think it would work out if we got him and we'd immediately have the best WR corps in the NFL, but it just doesn't match the whole team building mantra McBeane have pushed. I'd prefer trading for Jerry Jeudy or trading up for JSN if we're trading anything away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Don’t want this trade because we don’t need another dumb nickname. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs Hopkins Davis Harty > McKenzie & Brown Sherfield > Crowder & Kumerow Shakir In this scenario going into the draft, I’d consider offering Gabe Davis + #27 to move up for JSN. He can make an immediate impact…while learning from Diggs and Hop If not, Davis is a very good WR 3 and seemed to be most effective when rotating in and seeing time in the slot Harty and Sherfield have proved nothing and Gabe Davis has no value to move up in first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, Special K said: I'm pretty sure it would be Shakir that would be on the outside looking in....not Davis. Which would make absolutely no sense at all A good player on a nice price control contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BananaB said: Harty and Sherfield have proved nothing and Gabe Davis has no value to move up in first round. They had to spend a fourth last year to move up 2 spots ..25 to 23… Davis with one year left on his rookie deal ain’t moving the needle much.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Even though there’s less than a zero percent chance the Bills trade for Hopkins here’s my thoughts on how Diggs, Hopkins, Davis would be utilized. I don’t think Davis’ role will change much at all. Diggs and Hopkins can operate out of the slot as good as anyone in the league. You might see Diggs become what Cole Beasley was but better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Even though there’s less than a zero percent chance the Bills trade for Hopkins here’s my thoughts on how Diggs, Hopkins, Davis would be utilized. I don’t think Davis’ role will change much at all. Diggs and Hopkins can operate out of the slot as good as anyone in the league. You might see Diggs become what Cole Beasley was but better. This is a really unique take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Even though there’s less than a zero percent chance the Bills trade for Hopkins here’s my thoughts on how Diggs, Hopkins, Davis would be utilized. I don’t think Davis’ role will change much at all. Diggs and Hopkins can operate out of the slot as good as anyone in the league. You might see Diggs become what Cole Beasley was but better. There's zero chance Diggs is moving to the slot full time. Maybe a play here or there he'd move inside with Hopkins and Davis on the outside. But it would be Diggs on one side, Hopkins on the other, and Harty in the slot. Davis would sub in and out for Hopkins and Diggs on the outside, keeping all 3 fresh. Edited March 23, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: A good player on a nice price control contract So does Davis!! Edited March 23, 2023 by Special K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Even though there’s less than a zero percent chance the Bills trade for Hopkins here’s my thoughts on how Diggs, Hopkins, Davis would be utilized. I don’t think Davis’ role will change much at all. Diggs and Hopkins can operate out of the slot as good as anyone in the league. You might see Diggs become what Cole Beasley was but better. I do agree that Diggs is great in the slot. I don’t understand why our offense didn’t look like it did week 1 in LA all year. the quick passing game with slants was great 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: There's zero chance Diggs is moving to the slot full time. Maybe a play here or there he'd move inside with Hopkins and Davis on the outside. But it would be Diggs on one side, Hopkins on the other, and Harty in the slot. Davis would sub in and out for Hopkins and Diggs on the outside, keeping both fresh. all of those players can play both positions and be moved around to keep defenses guessing and create mismatches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: I do agree that Diggs is great in the slot. I don’t understand why our offense didn’t look like it did week 1 in LA all year. the quick passing game with slants was great They’d both move around but Diggs and Hopkins can both be lethal in the slot. And we already know Allen can pick apart defenses with a capable slot. Diggs would catch 130 balls in the slot. Automatic. The Bills went into last year wanting a veteran slot. Crowder was injured all year and Beane used that as an excuse for why McKenzie played so much. It wasn’t the plan. I can’t see the plan being Harty, Shakir, and Sherfield. So I do see them adding a veteran slot WR, or maybe the plan is Diggs and add a premium WR that can play outside/inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 For anyone who cares, Hopkins Orange Juice IG story is gone already too.. which likely means he puts his posts on a timer and didn’t “delete” the Buffalo Soldier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: For anyone who cares, Hopkins Orange Juice IG story is gone already too.. which likely means he puts his posts on a timer and didn’t “delete” the Buffalo Soldier I hope you got screen shots. I really didn't picture him as an orange juice guy. Free agency is wild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Breakout Squad said: His contract is obnoxious and he’s on the downside of his career No he isn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, Airseven said: Don’t want this trade because we don’t need another dumb nickname. Ignoring the astute analysis, the nickname came from his blind mother. Solid stuff once again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 If Gave Davis is not included in the trade for Hopkins, the move next is to trade him. Look at what the Jets just got from Cleveland for Moore. We should be able to get a good pick back for Davis. QB Allen RB Harris RB Cook TE Knox WR1 Diggs WR2 Hopkins WR3 Sherfield Slot Shakir WR4 Harty I mean that would potentially be the best offense in the NFL heading into the draft. Focus on finding more OL upgrades and an Edmunds replacement in this draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Practice would be fun. Just now, Alphadawg7 said: If Gave Davis is not included in the trade for Hopkins, the move next is to trade him. Look at what the Jets just got from Cleveland for Moore. We should be able to get a good pick back for Davis. QB Allen RB Harris RB Cook TE Knox WR1 Diggs WR2 Hopkins WR3 Sherfield Slot Shakir WR4 Harty I mean that would potentially be the best offense in the NFL heading into the draft. Focus on finding more OL upgrades and an Edmunds replacement in this draft. I thought we wanted more WRs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I would prefer to trade Ed over Gabe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I do agree that Diggs is great in the slot. I don’t understand why our offense didn’t look like it did week 1 in LA all year. the quick passing game with slants was great all of those players can play both positions and be moved around to keep defenses guessing and create mismatches Diggs can be utilized in the slot, but he's not moving to the slot full time. The post I was referring to said he didn't see Davis' role changing much and Diggs would be moved inside. That would never happen. Occasional packages, sure. But we're not putting him in the middle of the field to get hit by Linebackers on the regular. Nor would Diggs be open to being just a slot guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Special K said: So does Davis!! Is he? I was under the impression that Davis was on the last year of his contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: If Gave Davis is not included in the trade for Hopkins, the move next is to trade him. Look at what the Jets just got from Cleveland for Moore. We should be able to get a good pick back for Davis. QB Allen RB Harris RB Cook TE Knox WR1 Diggs WR2 Hopkins WR3 Sherfield Slot Shakir WR4 Harty I mean that would potentially be the best offense in the NFL heading into the draft. Focus on finding more OL upgrades and an Edmunds replacement in this draft. to zona gabe , Dane and fourth to bills hop and a third plus we swap seconds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: If Gave Davis is not included in the trade for Hopkins, the move next is to trade him. Look at what the Jets just got from Cleveland for Moore. We should be able to get a good pick back for Davis. Except Elijah Moore had two years left on his deal. Gabe only has one. And even Moore with his two years wasn't much of a return. They got a 2nd in exchange for Moore and a 3rd. The return for Gabe wouldn't be worth not having him as the first outside WR off the bench when Diggs and Hopkins each need a breather or either get banged up. One of the things that killed us last season was a lack of depth at WR, specifically on the outside. If we were to get the deal done - we'd have Diggs, Hopkins, Davis, Harty, Sherfield, and Shakir as our 6 guys. We'd finally have depth at the position and coverage if someone were to get nicked up. And let's face it, odds are someone will. Would be nice to not be turning to someone like Jake Kumerow as first outside guy off the bench, bringing people up from Practice Squads, or having to bring in the John Brown's and Cole Beasley's of the world - like we did last season. 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: to zona gabe , Dane and fourth to bills hop and a third plus we swap seconds So let me get this straight - Arizona gets: Gabe Davis (on a one year deal) Dane Jackson (on a one year deal) Round 2 - Pick 59 Round 4 - Pick 130 Buffalo gets: DeAndre Hopkins (on a 2 year deal) Round 2 - Pick 34 Round 3 - Pick 66 ... why exactly would Arizona do that? Edited March 23, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Except Elijah Moore had two years left on his deal. Gabe only has one. And even Moore with his two years wasn't much of a return. They got a 2nd in exchange for Moore and a 3rd. The return for Gabe wouldn't be worth not having him as the first outside WR off the bench when Diggs and Hopkins each need a breather or either get banged up. One of the things that killed us last season was a lack of depth at WR, specifically on the outside. If we were to get the deal done - we'd have Diggs, Hopkins, Davis, Harty, Sherfield, and Shakir as our 6 guys. We'd finally have depth at the position and coverage if someone were to get nicked up. And let's face it, odds are someone will. Would be nice to not be turning to someone like Jake Kumerow as first outside guy off the bench, bringing people up from Practice Squads, or having to bring in the John Brown's and Cole Beasley's of the world - like we did last season. So let me get this straight - Arizona gets: Gabe Davis (on a one year deal) Dane Jackson (on a one year deal) Round 2 - Pick 59 Round 4 - Pick 130 Buffalo gets: DeAndre Hopkins (on a 2 year deal) Round 2 - Pick 34 Round 3 - Pick 66 ... why exactly would Arizona do that? Let me correct this: Arizona gets: Gabe Davis (on a one year deal) Dane Jackson (on a one year deal) Round 2 - Pick 59 Round 4 - Pick 130 Buffalo gets: DeAndre Hopkins (on a 2 year deal) Round 2 - Pick 34 Round 3 - Pick 66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I would prefer to trade Ed over Gabe Spikes, I agree. Have could still help as WR3. Oliver has shown enough to be worth a trade to AZ, and possibly a day 3 pick. The problem is how much cap will AZ absorb, and what will Hopkins renegotiate to be on a championship level team, amd understand he’s 31. There can be dummy years, but we need at least two years maybe three, and then let him walk. Imagine Diggs, Hopkins, and Davis all on the field. Wow! Add Cook and Hines at times as pass catching RB’s and we draft a TE high as this is a deep TE class. Take that KC and Cincy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Spikes, I agree. Have could still help as WR3. Oliver has shown enough to be worth a trade to AZ, and possibly a day 3 pick. The problem is how much cap will AZ absorb, and what will Hopkins renegotiate to be on a championship level team, amd understand he’s 31. There can be dummy years, but we need at least two years maybe three, and then let him walk. Imagine Diggs, Hopkins, and Davis all on the field. Wow! Add Cook and Hines at times as pass catching RB’s and we draft a TE high as this is a deep TE class. Take that KC and Cincy. There could be multiple games where Diggs, Hopkins and Davis each have 100 yards receiving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Special K said: I'm pretty sure it would be Shakir that would be on the outside looking in....not Davis. Shakir is the starting slot receiver at this point. They play different positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Would be shocked - floored - if Ted Thompson 2.0 pulled the trigger here. Prove me wrong Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Yawn.... Did I miss anything while I slept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Yawn.... Did I miss anything while I slept? Just more bashing of Oliver and Davis and imagination land for what Hopkins has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Yawn.... Did I miss anything while I slept? WarriorSpikes and Alpha provided more hands-on reporting from the crevices of Hopkins’ social media activity, that’s about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Yawn.... Did I miss anything while I slept? He’s closer to being a Chief then when you went to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean that would potentially be the best offense in the NFL heading into the draft. Focus on finding more OL upgrades and an Edmunds replacement in this draft. As a lifelong Bills fan, the best offense in the NFL today has to include (1) Andy Reid (2) Kelce, and (3) Mahomes, they are the new Brady/Gronk. Until you can matchup with that trio you're not the best. Reid's play design and play calling is on a whole other level than the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, CSBill said: Let me correct this: Arizona gets: Gabe Davis (on a one year deal) Dane Jackson (on a one year deal) Round 2 - Pick 59 Round 4 - Pick 130 Buffalo gets: DeAndre Hopkins (on a 2 year deal) Round 2 - Pick 34 Round 3 - Pick 66 You are way overvaluing at 30+ year old receiver who was just busted for PEDs…unless you’re a cardinals fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 This time of the year is never complete without one of these threads, and i love it. Me following on page 1: "He's over 30 and we'd have to give up too much" Me by page 30: "Does anyone know where Pegula's jet is?!?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Why do fans get all worked up over rumors online when the GM is on recent record literally stating they have no money? Not happening, move on with your lives. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Back2Buff said: Why do fans get all worked up over rumors online when the GM is on recent record literally stating they have no money? Not happening, move on with your lives. I can't even pay for the newspaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Why do fans get all worked up over rumors online when the GM is on recent record literally stating they have no money? Not happening, move on with your lives. it’s not exactly a “rumor” and the GM did not say that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: it’s not exactly a “rumor” and the GM did not say that Hahaha, what?! It's the definition of a rumor. Brandon Beane explains why the Bills haven't made any big money signings (yahoo.com) 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Why do fans get all worked up over rumors online when the GM is on recent record literally stating they have no money? Not happening, move on with your lives. Well Hopkins is a trade not a signing. So technically the Cardinals can offer to pick up most of his salary. Just depends on what we offer and how much the Cardinals are willing to pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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