Bills with third least offseason resources (cap space, draft capital, prorateable $)

[beebe]

The good news is that the top 10 teams on this list are either

 

a) non playoff teams;

b) teams that have no franchise QB; or

c) teams that have an uncertain QB on a rookie deal. 

 

The Bills are third to last but will have a very strong roster next year and should have some maneuverability to plug a few leaks. Unlikely to see a spending spree however.

 

The Chiefs, Bengals and Jags are the only AFC playoff teams that crack the top half of this list. But unlike the Chiefs, who signed Mahomes to a huge deal a few years back, the Bengals and Jags still have Burrow and Lawrence on rookie deals. 

 

Miami is not in a great position. 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by beebe

[Mark Vader]

So, we are alright?

[Brand J]

KC and the Bengals are in a great position. Bills, not so much. I’d argue KC is probably in the best position since they have a multitude of draft picks coming up.

[Nextmanup]

Well that's how this works.

We are built to win NOW.  The future is here right now...

 

We shouldn't be building for anything.

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Can free up 50 million by playing kickball with monopoly $   The cap isn't how it's perceived by many on here 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

KC and the Bengals are in a great position. Bills, not so much. I’d argue KC is probably in the best position since they have a multitude of draft picks coming up.

 

Haven't the Chiefs already restructured Mahomes contract?

 

We still have that lever to pull if I'm not mistaken. 

[MJS]

The Bills can restructure to create a ton of cap space. Beane knows what he is doing.

[Virgil]

Bengals need to pay Higgins, Chase, and Burrow.  There situation will change real quick.

[beebe]

4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

So, we are alright?

 

Yes. But this year's Bills team on paper is probably the best version of the team we'll see in the immediate future. With Hyde and Von, plus fully healthy versions of White and Poyer, I don't think you can top the roster that's put together this year top to bottom. I'd put it up there with any roster of the last decade. 

 

This year's Chiefs team might be the worst we've seen in the Mahomes era, and might be the worst we see going forward a few years too. The Chiefs hit on basically every single draft pick last year, saved a bunch of money on the Tyreek trade, potentially replaced him by stealing Toney from the Giants, and still have some extra draft capital/money to maneuver next offseason.

 

The Bills will be fine going forward, but would do themselves a big favor cashing in this year. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

Thank you for this.

 

I now hate everybody, everywhere, all at once.

 

I'll try and find you some bigger spiked shoes and a wider barbed-wire pole for you to simultaneously stomp on my boy sack and shove up my backside.

 

Maybe you'd like a nice moist towelette to refresh yourself while I search for said items?

 

  

Edited January 10, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Can free up 50 million by playing kickball with monopoly $   The cap isn't how it's perceived by many on here 

 

Exactly. Look at New Orleans who was $110 million over the cap easily getting under it and then making splash UFA signings too.

 

At the end of the day I'll trust Beane far more than some dork off the internet.

Edited January 10, 2023 by Big Turk

[Airseven]

I don’t know what any of this over-analysis actually means. A point to be made is the NFL salary cap is merely a suggestion.

[SCBills]

19 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

Yes. But this year's Bills team on paper is probably the best version of the team we'll see in the immediate future. With Hyde and Von, plus fully healthy versions of White and Poyer, I don't think you can top the roster that's put together this year top to bottom. I'd put it up there with any roster of the last decade. 

 

This year's Chiefs team might be the worst we've seen in the Mahomes era, and might be the worst we see going forward a few years too. The Chiefs hit on basically every single draft pick last year, saved a bunch of money on the Tyreek trade, potentially replaced him by stealing Toney from the Giants, and still have some extra draft capital/money to maneuver next offseason.

 

The Bills will be fine going forward, but would do themselves a big favor cashing in this year. 

 

On paper, when we started the season.. maybe.

 

I expect the Bills next year to have a very familiar roster.. mainly because we have a ton of core guys under contract. 

 

Notable Players Under Contract..

 

DE:  Von, Rousseau, AJ, Basham 

DT:  Oliver, Jones, Settle

LB: Milano

CB: White, Elam, Jackson, Benford

SLOT: Johnson, Neal

S: Hyde, Hamlin*

 

QB: Allen

OL: Dawkins, Morse, Bates, Brown, Doyle

RB: Cook, Hines

FB: Gilliam

TE: Knox, Morris

WR: Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Shakir

 

LS: Ferguson

K: Bass

 

On paper, under contract, that's a very good team.  We have levers to pull to free up money and not harm our future.

 

Will have to address via Draft/FA.. Safety, MLB, LG, OL depth, DT4, DE5, WR2, RB2, QB2, Punter.  

 

I don't rule out next years roster, on paper, being better than this years.  An upgrade at WR2 alone makes a huge difference.  

 

 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by SCBills

[mushypeaches]

So this graph is telling me that we'd rather be the Texans??

[BuffaloBill]

23 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

KC and the Bengals are in a great position. Bills, not so much. I’d argue KC is probably in the best position since they have a multitude of draft picks coming up.

 

 

KC is in a good position.  Remember the Bills have  Oliver, Edmunds, Motor and Poyer all probably looking for big paydays.  Saffold is also wanting a deal.  I believe the Bills probably need O-line and WR help in the offseason.

[thenorthremembers]

The Bills can free up close to $50 million in cap space by restructuring a bunch of contracts in the offseason.    Probably have enough to re-up Edmunds and Poyer and bring in 1-2 good free agents.   Not in a horrible position at all.  

[damj]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

KC is in a good position.  Remember the Bills have  Oliver, Edmunds, Motor and Poyer all probably looking for big paydays.  Saffold is also wanting a deal.  I believe the Bills probably need O-line and WR help in the offseason.

Getting deals for Oliver, Poyer, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, but ... Edmunds are a must.

 

I'd like to keep Singletary, but I think we can get him resigned for a team friendly short 1 year deal ... the RB FA market is STACKED, so Motor might not get a big payday. 

 

WR, I think we need to go draft route. WR FA crop is very thin ... maybe a vet to round out the WR room.

[Southern_Bills]

If we win this year it won't matter much. Beane will find a way to keep the roster rolling. The Von Miller deal/injury hurt the most.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

KC is in a good position.  Remember the Bills have  Oliver, Edmunds, Motor and Poyer all probably looking for big paydays.  Saffold is also wanting a deal.  I believe the Bills probably need O-line and WR help in the offseason.

 

Oliver and Davis are next off-season's big decisions, but regardless.. I don't see (as we sit here today) Oliver, Davis, Motor or Saffold moving the needle for what this team is if they all walk.  I'd currently bet that they all do, unless they are willing to take very team-friendly deals to stay.

 

Edmunds is the big decision. 

 

Poyer is the one guy I'd bet we lose that means a lot to the team. 

 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Shhhh!!! 🤫 Keep it down. Don't want O'Dell or anyone else to find out...

 

[LabattBlue]

13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

The Bills can free up close to $50 million in cap space by restructuring a bunch of contracts in the offseason.    Probably have enough to re-up Edmunds and Poyer and bring in 1-2 good free agents.   Not in a horrible position at all.  

That is a huge amount of cap space.  How did you come up with that number?

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

That is a huge amount of cap space.  How did you come up with that number?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/roster/buffalo-bills/  Been using this to keep an eye on things throughout the year.   Now that the -6 million overage is factored in its more like $42.5 million but you can get there by restructuring 12 or 13 contracts.  I dont know if they will want to pay that much money up front, really up to Pegula, but it can be done.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Beane has to avoid the 2nd Round sinkholes. 

 

Can't have the Cody Ford's, AJ Epenesa's, Boogie Basham's when you're facing this competition. 

 

Also, picking at the end of the first round is harder. 

 

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

The cap won't matter until the bills big contracts decide to retire, which in my opinion won't be for a while

 

Just keep kicking the can down the road 

[John from Riverside]

This is why drafting is so important

[Matt_In_NH]

Nice way to look at it.  I bet if you look at it over the last 4 years you will see a continual degradation.  People will say you can always manipulate but it’s not true.  Eventually you have to make hard decisions. 

[Dave_Bills]

I remember when we had plenty of cap space…and we sucked…and no one wanted to come here…and our hopes for the post season were dashed by the end of October

[Zerovoltz]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Haven't the Chiefs already restructured Mahomes contract?

 

We still have that lever to pull if I'm not mistaken. 

 

They did a couple years ago, but not this past year.....which is huge.  KC was able to eat a whole 35 million dollar hit for 2022.  

 

 

3 hours ago, beebe said:

 

Yes. But this year's Bills team on paper is probably the best version of the team we'll see in the immediate future. With Hyde and Von, plus fully healthy versions of White and Poyer, I don't think you can top the roster that's put together this year top to bottom. I'd put it up there with any roster of the last decade. 

 

This year's Chiefs team might be the worst we've seen in the Mahomes era, and might be the worst we see going forward a few years too. The Chiefs hit on basically every single draft pick last year, saved a bunch of money on the Tyreek trade, potentially replaced him by stealing Toney from the Giants, and still have some extra draft capital/money to maneuver next offseason.

 

The Bills will be fine going forward, but would do themselves a big favor cashing in this year. 

 

So, the reaason why this is a big deal.  KC already vied 2022 as a cap reset year ...so when all 11 draft picks made the team and many started and contributed that's been HUGE and it's even a bigger deal becasue KC went forward with no restructure for Mahomes in 2022 and took on the 35 mil cap hit.  His cap hit in 2023 is 46 mil.....and even with that being the case...KC still NOW has 28 mil in cap space.  AND...Frank Clark will be cut saving an additional whopping 20 million more, AND there is a decent chance they cut MVS, saving another 7 million.  Having those draft picks essentially hit means KC can do some stuff in 2023....or could possibly leave Mahomes number alone again.  The more they can absord as we go, the more that is free later.

 

This is both WHY and HOW a team with a franchise QB can and should be a SB contender every season.  

 

The Bills don't have to tear it down or make hard choices just yet but a time is coming soon when you have to get that cap straightened out some OR kick until you can't kick anymore and eat a whole season or 2 getting it all right again.  

 

The best part is these are 1 st world problems for the teams that have the Franchise QB...much better to be working this stuff out than wondering where your next QB is coming from, the coaches, FO, and so on.

[K-9]

The salary cap is a mirage. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

3 hours ago, Airseven said:

I don’t know what any of this over-analysis actually means. A point to be made is the NFL salary cap is merely a suggestion.

Is that you @Zerovoltz?

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Not a big surprise here. The Von Miller signing was our "all in" moment. 

 

We're not screwed for the future like the LA Rams though

[Chaos]

The Chiefs front office is amazing. 

[CoudyBills]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Can free up 50 million by playing kickball with monopoly $   The cap isn't how it's perceived by many on here 

It's just a number.

[SCBills]

While we’re in a decent spot short term and long term, this is why we can’t just “Pay Po” and it’s also why we should look at trading guys like Oliver and/or Davis before they walk for nothing.  
 

I don’t mind Davis for WR3 money, but I fear his number will be WR2 range.  
 

Oliver, as of now, I’d trade him for a 2nd without thinking twice.  

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Im sure they’ll restructure Von this summer, maybe Allen as well.

[John from Riverside]

37 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The Chiefs front office is amazing. 

Maybe you should send them some chocolate

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

While we’re in a decent spot short term and long term, this is why we can’t just “Pay Po” and it’s also why we should look at trading guys like Oliver and/or Davis before they walk for nothing.  
 

I don’t mind Davis for WR3 money, but I fear his number will be WR2 range.  
 

Oliver, as of now, I’d trade him for a 2nd without thinking twice.  

can you tell us one more time about how you feel about Ed oliver? I don’t think we all heard it the first hundred times.

[purple haze]

5 hours ago, damj said:

Getting deals for Oliver, Poyer, and I can't believe I'm about to say this, but ... Edmunds are a must.

 

I'd like to keep Singletary, but I think we can get him resigned for a team friendly short 1 year deal ... the RB FA market is STACKED, so Motor might not get a big payday. 

 

WR, I think we need to go draft route. WR FA crop is very thin ... maybe a vet to round out the WR room.

He won’t be expensive but it won’t be one year.  He’d probably get 3, in part to spread out cap.

[Patrick Duffy]

5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Well that's how this works.

We are built to win NOW.  The future is here right now...

 

We shouldn't be building for anything.

 

 

Why can't you be built to win now while also building for future at same time? 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Not a big surprise here. The Von Miller signing was our "all in" moment. 

 

We're not screwed for the future like the LA Rams though

Yeah, apparently McVay is telling all his coaches to look for work.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

KC is in a good position.  Remember the Bills have  Oliver, Edmunds, Motor and Poyer all probably looking for big paydays.  Saffold is also wanting a deal.  I believe the Bills probably need O-line and WR help in the offseason.

Oliver is tied up already. Motor is gone. Saffold is gone. Sign Poyer for 3 year deal and tag Edmunds. Easy.

Draft WR,S, and OL. Done.