Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: Really. Can you elaborate. Its not a vertebral injury. He would have not been able to get up. Its a cardiac arrest. He would have had enough BP to stand up and pass out as he did even as the heart was not beating. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Since1981 said: My bet. Half bills players won’t take the field. And the storm deaths. This is not fun. Goodell, standup for once. They won’t ask them to play. No chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ta111 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: Even if they do want to go back out and play, how can they not be playing with a divided heart and mind thinking about their teammate And when your attention is divided, further injuries will occur I think that goes for both teams. Don’t know how either team can continue after this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsMagic1 said: Only fair thing is no game was played and we are back to a 16 game schedule for both our teams This does seem the sensible thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 It is ridiculously that there is no policy in place for this situation with how violent football is. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 No way this game should be played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Paul Costa said: AED & CPR means his heart stopped. 9 minutes of CPR is an extremely long time. This is really bad If it was started fast enough there is still hope. I know someone who got 45 minutes of CPR and lived although with some disability. Not as much disability as was initially predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) They can’t call this a draw or give both teams a win. They can’t just skip the game. There are way too many implications. For example (and F them), the Chiefs and their homefield. I think they’ll leave it to the Bills. Come back out and play, or essentially forfeit and take the loss. Or they postpone to another day this week. Don’t see any other solutions here. This is tragic. Edited January 3, 2023 by Playoffs? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, PayDaBill$ said: I’ve watched the replay a few times I just can’t see anything there that looked like it would cause this type of event. It’s brutal to see the after effect. Underlying health issue, or preexisting neck injury? Prayers are with his family and friends and teammates. Bengals player shoulder and head hit Hamlin in the chest. That is all that is needed. Its not a neck issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just talked to one of our ER docs... who are all texting each other right now... apparently it is a known thing that a direct hit to the heart can cause the heart to stop aka a heart attack... again they would have intubated him right away put a tube down his throat to breathe and that they have a pulse is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'reWalking Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I am praying. In a strange way of rationalizing everything im reading, am I the only one thinks not continuing would make his injury in vain? Life is big, and what happened during his job is a known possibility, it's a violent sport. I am praying, but I think his sacrifice should be honored and fought for by earning the win. He has a pulse. Life is fragile, but this is a freak accident. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Costa said: AED & CPR means his heart stopped. 9 minutes of CPR is an extremely long time. This is really bad I don’t think he necessarily received CPR for that long. That’s just how long he was down on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galept Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, NyQuil said: It is ridiculously that there is no policy in place for this situation with how violent football is. We humans are quite unwise. But there sure will be a policy from now on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 The game is definitely done for the night. Per me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedenstearns Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Burrow just went to the Bills locker room per Joe Danneman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Since1981 said: My bet. Half bills players won’t take the field. And the storm deaths. This is not fun. Goodell, standup for once. None of them will. And good luck to Goodell of he forces them to forfeit...NFL would face severe repurcussions to their public image which they work so hard to prop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Postpone it. Cancel it. Whatever. they CANNOT ask these players to go out and play right now. If they do, McDermott should refuse, even if it means forfeiting. if they resume play, I’m not watching. Do the right thing, NFL. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I think the big problem the NFL is facing is that they've likely never anticipated this situation. A player's life is threatened on the field, and what to do about the game. The logistics of moving a game 24 hours, all the TV, advertising, personnel, teams, equipment, venue, fans, tickets, etc. They do OK with a few days warning, like the Bills games moving to DET, but what to do about a game in progress? Let alone a game this big with huge playoff implications. A Bills forfeit would be the most expedient solution. Moving the game more than 24 hours impacts next week's games, so what to do? Like the line in Apollo 13, "This isn't a contingency we even remotely considered." But nobody cares about all that. We just care about DH. The rest be damned. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 look up Skip Bayless' heartless tweet about this. let him know how much of a douche he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, SUNTANBILLS FAN said: No way this game should be played This is the first time i’ve ever seen on Twitter everyone in the country agrees. game should be called. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Playoffs? said: They can’t call this a draw or give both teams a win. They can’t just skip the game. There are way too many implications. For example (and F them), the Chiefs and their homefield. I think they’ll leave it to the Bills. Come back out and play, or essentially forfeit and take the loss. Or they postpone to tomorrow. Don’t see any other solutions here. This is tragic. Play tomorrow is the move. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaru523 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 This is so sad, praying for Damar!!!🙏 Just call it already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Not true .. he almost tripped on him when Hamlin fell and he pointed to him because players do that when they see someone is hurt to get attention. I certainly hope so, otherwise he'll live with that the rest of his days. I've only heard bad things about the dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: Skip Bayless is a dirtbag. We knew that already, but specifically, what is it this time? I'm apparently not on that channel. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, djp14150 said: I think an issue is cancel and not make up. Call it a tie and move on? Trying to make this up will be difficult to impossible. Especial if Hamlin dies. Not that it’s any time to think about this but a tie is essentially a loss so I doubt the players would want that…not that it will be left up to them necessarily anyway. Hoping that they push everything a week but I would be pleasantly shocked if the nfl made a decision like that my guess is they’re giving themselves a chance to be able to announce that Hamlin is stable and they’ll think about continuing tonight if that’s the case but if not they’re going to push it until tomorrow Edited January 3, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Even heading to commercial break is classless The NFL SUCKS Edited January 3, 2023 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: AED & CPR means his heart stopped. 9 minutes of CPR is an extremely long time. This is really bad You don't shock asystole. That is a Hollywood myth. You do, however, give CPR. You only shock certain arrhythmia to get the heart back into a regular rythym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, North Buffalo said: Just talked to one of our ER docs... who are all texting each other right now... apparently it is a known thing that a direct hit to the heart can cause the heart to stop aka a heart attack... again they would have intubated him right away put a tube down his throat to breathe and that they have a pulse is a good thing. Would it have lifelong affects and disabilities? God I hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, bigduke6 said: look up Skip Bayless' heartless tweet about this. let him know how much of a douche he is. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 This guy works for espn?? 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Sounds like this. https://www.healthline.com/health/commotio-cordis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: It's up to the Bills if they want to play. Not us. If we hear good news about Hamlin, then let them decide. This isn’t something where we’re likely to hear one way or the other in a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 At this point, I'm fine if the Bills forfeit. I can't imagine seeing that happen in front of me, not knowing it a coworker will live or die and then being told "ok, warm yourselves up and get back to work" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I coach youth baseball. Younger kids wear heart guards to do text themselves from line drives to the heart area. Enough impact at just the right moment can cause this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Playoffs? said: They can’t call this a draw or give both teams a win. They can’t just skip the game. There are way too many implications. For example (and F them), the Chiefs and their homefield. I think they’ll leave it to the Bills. Come back out and play, or essentially forfeit and take the loss. Or they postpone to tomorrow. Don’t see any other solutions here. This is tragic. Don't continue and rule it a "mutual forfeit" in which both teams take a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, North Buffalo said: Just talked to one of our ER docs... who are all texting each other right now... apparently it is a known thing that a direct hit to the heart can cause the heart to stop aka a heart attack... again they would have intubated him right away put a tube down his throat to breathe and that they have a pulse is a good thing. Yeah I posted about it a few pages ago. Commotio cordis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I’m praying for Damar and his family. I can’t believe the NFL can’t make the call now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 My thoughts and prayers are with Damar and his loved ones. The game is meaningless to me right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I hope and pray to god he makes it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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