Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I don’t care about injuries or age. Unless it’s career ending pay him. He’s a difference maker and they’re not easy to come by. Don’t want another London Fletcher situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Definitely do not pay him! He is not getting younger and constantly hurt. Hopefully we win it all this year and he walks away. Why because we have someone younger and better who would take his place ?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Putin said: Why because we have someone younger and better who would take his place ?? Cmon Vlady… we either draft one or go for a stud that’s 5-8 years younger. Spend the money wisely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Putin said: Why because we have someone younger and better who would take his place ?? Hope they offer Poyer money+ to Amos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Have they gotten around to removing Poyers spleen yet…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Definitely do not pay him! He is not getting younger and constantly hurt. Hopefully we win it all this year and he walks away. Agreed but I would like to see him for another year or two at a reasonable salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Beast said: Agreed but I would like to see him for another year or two at a reasonable salary. If he signs a 1-2 year deal then yes. But if he is looking for a 4-5 year deal with guaranteed $$$ then we should pass. Most likely he will. Not worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Activate Micah and LFG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 In contrast this would be Mac Jones with the same injury 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Wow … that’s Campionship Caliber ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, CheshireCT said: Some NFL players unfortunately just get the shaft. If they aren't able to show themselves for the first FA contract, they never get paid the mega dollars. Poyer falls under that category. He deserves more, but his extension just didn't time out right. I think if he was going to sign an extension here, it would have already been done. I appreciate that he's stayed totally committed to the team despite the lack of extension. SS is just not a very valuable position in today's NFL. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/strong-safety/ Poyer probably could've earned more on the open market rather than sign an extension with the Bills in 2020, but it's not like we're ripping the guy off. He's the #1 SS in the league this season by both cap hit and base salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, CLTbills said: "Hey look at this picture of me when I was younger. EVERY PICTURE of you is of you when you were younger." Hopefully someone picks up the Mitch Hedberg reference. Got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 I love Poyer. He is the heart and soul of our defense. But you don’t pay people for what they’ve done. You pay them for what they can still do. Bills will have a very hard decision to make either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, Locomark said: I ran and played pivot sports for 2 months on a torn miniscus and torn MCL. Basketball players do it all the time. Eventually I tore everything ACL,MCL,PCL, bucket handle miniscus tear and had a fracture but I was also substantially older. Bottom line is miniscus is purely pain management in many cases. With the adrenaline he has playing this game, he probably only feels it a few times a game and afterwards. It’s likely not affecting his running much. Did you get a lifetime contract for playing with your niscus all torn like that? I'm told Poyer should get whatever he asks for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: SS is just not a very valuable position in today's NFL. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/strong-safety/ Poyer probably could've earned more on the open market rather than sign an extension with the Bills in 2020, but it's not like we're ripping the guy off. He's the #1 SS in the league this season by both cap hit and base salary. good info, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, wppete said: Cmon Vlady… we either draft one or go for a stud that’s 5-8 years younger. Spend the money wisely! Are you @HOUSEburner account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Burrow going to attack Poyer. Dont know why they put that info out ther?. considering he has been playing unhindered by this injury all year, why does it matter who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Question is when did this happen? How many games has he played? Or did this just happen which I doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Bills are legit screwed without Poyer I believe there something like 0-3 without him in the lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 55 minutes ago, Hsker4life said: I love Poyer. He is the heart and soul of our defense. But you don’t pay people for what they’ve done. You pay them for what they can still do. Bills will have a very hard decision to make either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Hope it is a minor tear. Should heal with a bit of rest if Buffalo gets the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, nucci said: Do you know anyone who is getting younger? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 56 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/strong-safety/ Poyer probably could've earned more on the open market rather than sign an extension with the Bills in 2020, but it's not like we're ripping the guy off. He's the #1 SS in the league this season by both cap hit and base salary. If we are looking at money, "base salary" is meaningless. Po is on his last year of his contract extension. It's high because most of the guaranteed money was already paid up in cap. As to cap hit, $2.6M is pushed from last year when he restructured to free up cap space. In Poyer's 6 years playing for the Bills his cost averages to $5.8M per year. Bills got a pretty good deal for their money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If we are looking at money, "base salary" is meaningless. Po is on his last year of his contract extension. It's high because most of the guaranteed money was already paid up in cap. As to cap hit, $2.6M is pushed from last year when he restructured to free up cap space. In Poyer's 6 years playing for the Bills his cost averages to $5.8M per year. Bills got a pretty good deal for their money! He was also a backup with the browns so the money seemed great at the time. I think we should pay him just not trying to blame the bills for believing in him and giving a chance and paying him twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, nucci said: Do you know anyone who is getting younger? Big Bird is still 6 1/2 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 2, 2023 Author Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, wppete said: Burrow going to attack Poyer. Dont know why they put that info out ther?. I hope he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 1 minute ago, mikemac2001 said: He was also a backup with the browns so the money seemed great at the time. I think we should pay him just not trying to blame the bills for believing in him and giving a chance and paying him twice I want to see him back next year. It will unfortunately depend on the length and AAV. I think he compromises a bit to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, wppete said: Definitely do not pay him! He is not getting younger and constantly hurt. Hopefully we win it all this year and he walks away. I'd love to berate you for being heartless, but this is exactly how winning teams operate. Never pay for depreciating assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Just now, Southern_Bills said: I'd love to berate you for being heartless, but this is exactly how winning teams operate. Never pay for depreciating assets. Got to put the feelings aside and do the right thing financially for the teams future. We took a massive risk with Von Miller can’t do another one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 IF the expectation is that the knee and elbow will recover 100% in the off season, you absolutely re-sign Poyer to 2 years guaranteed with whatever voidable years are needed to do the contract. Hyde and Poyer will be able to be effective for at least 2 more years. It's not like a cover corner who is toast when they lose a step. Get-er-done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Have they gotten around to removing Poyers spleen yet…, Yes, but he woke up and turfed the surgeon, took back the spleen, taped it back in there and left for practice before anybody could stop him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 hours ago, nucci said: Do you know anyone who is getting younger? Of course he does. Those are the only people he pays. Try and keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Pay him!!! Why would you pay for an often injured player?? This will probably be his last year as a Buffalo Bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Wasn't this suspected at the time? We knew he was playing injured with something didn't we? or am i combining other injuries together in my head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andysplaylist Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Remember his first game as a Bill? He burst onto the scene and keeps making plays. If he takes a team friendly deal, pay him. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/09/10/bills-jets-jordan-poyer-game-ball-pff/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Why would you pay for an often injured player?? This will probably be his last year as a Buffalo Bill. Depends on his salary demands if they can agree to a figure the team and poyer's wife can live with he comes back. If not he signs with another team and for his efforts as a Bill I'd be happy if he manages to play well thru another contract. I'd welcome him back at a price that the team can work with. But if he wants more than they feel they can pay then he walks. Certainly hope he gets a ring with the Bills this year as he's earned it. Edited January 3, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: I like poyer and he's a difference maker but you can't pay an aging injury prone player big money. Let him walk in the offseason and test FA market and then sign him back to a cheap deal once he realizes his options are limited. Must resist… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, motorj said: Bills are legit screwed without Poyer I believe there something like 0-3 without him in the lineup 1-3, with the only win being the Steelers blowout back in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just find a way to give this guy contract. He’s earned it if anybody has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Hope it is a minor tear. Should heal with a bit of rest if Buffalo gets the bye. If he's playing, I feel like it has to be. I tore my meniscus once (and I hate it when people do this, because there are a few dozen degrees of any injury). But I didn't need surgery, and I still couldn't even walk on it for weeks. If Poyer is healthy enough to keep up w/ some of the best receivers in the league, I doubt it's that bad. But huge credit to him - I'm sure it's still playing through pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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