Beast Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The fulcrum of a crappy O-line. Actually, Morse has been damned good. JMO. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Dave_Bills said: How is Saffold anywhere near this list? Because the pro bowl is a popularity contest by players and they know his past successes. It’s why every year I mention getting the 1st and 2nd team all pro are legitimate honors. Just like MVP, ROY defensive and offensive, and DPOY and OPOY. Those are the Crown Jewels. These things and top 100 are meaningless. Milano not getting it is all the proof you need. Edited December 22, 2022 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Beast said: Actually, Morse has been damned good. JMO. hard to tell. maybe by comparison to the rest of the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beast Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: hard to tell. maybe by comparison to the rest of the line. I agree with you about the rest of the o-line. Straight up garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) So the pro bowl outside LBs are: Matt Judon, Khalil Mack, TJ Watt. All these guys play almost like hybrid DEs & have more sacks but less tackles & interceptions than Milano. It's almost like they value that position as an extra DE & don't value it as an extra coverage spot (which is more Milanos game). TJ Watt hasn't even played a large chunk of the season, I really don't see how he's in based on anything other than reputation. & How Saffold even gets mentioned? Again it's reputation being more important than performance. Edited December 22, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Can someone please explain to me how Cam Lewis didn't make it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, Donuts and Doritos said: Matt Judon, Khalil Mack, TJ Watt. All these guys play almost like hybrid DEs & have more sacks but less tackles & interceptions than Milano. It's almost like they value that position as an extra DE & don't value it as an extra coverage spot (which is more Milanos game). TJ Watt hasn't even played a large chunk of the season, I really don't see how he's in on anything other than reputation. & How Saffold even gets mentioned? Again it's reputation being more important than performance. I'd take Milano over journeyman Mack any Sunday, Monday, Thursday (and Saturday). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 No Mac Jones? Outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Just now, finn said: No Mac Jones? Outrageous! Yeah, he doesn't play for the Bills, so that would be hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This is wild 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) In my opinion, the reason Milano is no where is because if you voted the ballots for OLB were sorted by Sacks. Milano was buried in the list at 1.5, i had trouble finding him, he was buried so far down. Edited December 22, 2022 by ArtVandalay 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 One would think the AP All-Pro 1st and 2nd teams will be a better indicator of who's the best at their position than this hot garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 No wonder Rachel is always barking about Poyer getting snubbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Love seeing Geno Smith get a nod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean I'm not disagreeing with the three they picked but it does kind of make the fan vote meaningless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: No wonder Rachel is always barking about Poyer getting snubbed That incentive likely was built in this past season when he restructured his contract. She was pretty quiet this year, at least for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean I'm not disagreeing with the three they picked but it does kind of make the fan vote meaningless. isn't it 1/3 fans 1/3 players 1/3 press/analysts? Or am I thinking of something else? If it is then fans aren't meaningless, just pushed out by the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 They really have to merge the Defensive End/3-4 OLB into a category called Edge Rusher because 4-3 Outside linebackers have no chance of making it against guys with 10 plus sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: For your reading pleasure, check the replies. I mean what could it be? 🤔 Edited December 22, 2022 by Warcodered 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: No Milano? Milano is listed as a 1st alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) Justin Tucker in front of Bass sure guys a Hall of Famer no shame losing to that guy, wonder who number 2 is though, hell of a thing being number 3 though. Knox getting some serious respect. Edited December 22, 2022 by Warcodered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 What about the 39th Alternatives? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s unfathomable he got any votes My favorite Seinfeld character. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: Shady thinks : These pro bowl selections are A$$!!! No Milano???? Oliver is where???? Oliver is hopefully accepting a friendly contract that hooks him up but doesn't nerf the team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Very happy for Saffold - this will help him catch on elsewhere in 2023. Maybe Arizona. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Oliver is hopefully accepting a friendly contract that hooks him up but doesn't nerf the team? He’s a bust for where he was drafted. He’s a pass rushing DT. he’s in 4th year and has 13.5 career sacks. and has 1.5 sacks this year NOT good enough Edited December 22, 2022 by balln 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: How is the leading scorer in the NFL not a probowler? With already 2 game winning kicks this year? Also, wtf is with Milano not making it? 100% agree on both things you mentioned and was going to post something similar until I saw your post. Unbelievable neither made it. Oliver as a 4th alt. is criminal also. Hopefully there's some Bills players a little pissed about this and are looking to show they were wrongly passed up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The snubs are bad, but Saffold being on the page is maybe the biggest head-scratcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Bass leads the league in scoring. Credibility problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Trash as always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 How'd the Chiefs get 8 players on the squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, hemma said: Bass leads the league in scoring. Credibility problems. Reputation does have an effect especially with special teams, Justin Tucker is essentially HOF at the position hard to pass that, I am curious who #2 is though, not sure he wouldn't have gotten the top spot in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Only 4 players make 1st team from the #1 seed in the AFC 😅 Bass & Milano got snubbed for sure, but is anyone really surprised? Pro Bowl is a joke. I expect both these guys to make the All-Pro roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Like most everyone else, I think Milano should have gotten a spot. First alternate is pretty good though. Also, like others, I'm surprised Roger Saffold got named as a third alternate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Allen and Poyer were snubbed last year so glad to see they got in. Happy for Morse. As for the selection process....the same people who select the All Pro teams should also decide the Pro Bowlers. Fans are idiots (see Tua). Savvy players will try to bump up their peers fifth year option (see Edmunds and Lamar last year). Coaches have enough to do during the season and pry just chooses the most recognizable names to get it over with which could be why R. Smith and Mosley got in ahead of Milano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 There is one team in the NFL with a better record than Buffalo. There are two other teams with the same record as Buffalo. There are 6 teams with more first team pro bowlers than Buffalo. Such is the curse of a small market team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 The pro bowl just needs to be scrapped all together. There is no game anyway? What is the point of having fan voting if the number one vote getter doesn’t even make the pro bowl? Roger Saffold 2nd alternate? Wtf? How is that even possible? Are they drawing random names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, The Wiz said: For your reading pleasure, check the replies. NFL fans are funny. There were lots of people who thought Tua, Herbert, and Fields should have gotten a pro bowl nod. OK. But then there were actually multiple replies saying that Mac Jones got robbed not getting voted to the Pro Bowl. And I even saw one saying Zac Wilson should be in. Am I mistaken, or did both of those QBs get benched this season. How could you really think that guys getting benched by their own teams deserve the Pro Bowl over players like Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert. Even saw one calling for Brock Purdy...the guy has played what 3 games? Either people were trying to be funny, or NFL fans really have distorted views of their own teams/players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, 947 said: They really should make a Pass Rusher category separate from LB. Judon & Mack are not really Linebackers. Yep the OLB category are all edge rushers, more of light DEs than OLBs. All good players, but I wouldn't consider them OLB. Also working against any LB in the Bills system is they play Nickel LB. Are they technically ILB or OLB? As the league moves to passing and more defensive coverage in nickel and dime concepts, maybe a category will be added for that? Either way Milano is a stud and a highly rated alternate. Hopefully it is all a mute point as the Bills are off taking care of business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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