PatsFanNH Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Italian Bills said: Ok.. from what i see it seem that the major of you think that he could become a good one but not elite, very helped by Shanahan system that you say it’s great. So my next question is: would our Allen lead offense be unstoppable with Shanahan ? Our offense is not so explosive because our poor run game (OL and backs factor) and because we don’t relate on short passing game enough ? I mean very few curl, slant, jet sweep, etc ? I’ve said in another thread if Buffalo had made the trade for CMC you O be too 5 ALL Time. The only thing your team needs is someone in the backfield who is truly feared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Yesterday he had another great game, it seem he has been in control all the game, very accurate and more. You that know the game much more than me, what’s your take on this ? If he’s for real the 49ers can have a serious shot to the SB. I think at this point, it’s more about San Francisco’s QB friendly offensive system. If Shanahan can run his offense and has good personnel, QB’s are usually successful if they do a decent job reading the field and don’t turn the ball over. We saw this not only with Jimmy G but also with mediocre QB’s like Nick Mullens and CJ Betheard both who started out fast. Historically though, there’s been a limit with how far they can go before defenses catch up. We’ll see what happens this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 15 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Yesterday he had another great game, it seem he has been in control all the game, very accurate and more. You that know the game much more than me, what’s your take on this ? If he’s for real the 49ers can have a serious shot to the SB. My take is that if he continues to play at this level, the 9ers will have a bounty of draft picks after trading Jimmy G and Trey Lance in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 If this Purdy fella keeps playing well and showing this composure, you have to give Kyle Shanahan high marks for getting him prepared.. or having an offensive system that is friendly to a new QB like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I think it's way too early to make any assessment on him now but if I had to, I would put him in the Trever Simien type class. Edited December 13, 2022 by Yawning Frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Hard to tell after one game but it sure seems like there are some decent backup QBs in the league. Way better than we have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 They are a good, tough team. I haven't seen Purdy play and will try to catch their next game. My prediction for the Superbowl is Bills over 49ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Probably not for real, but far too early to tell. Seems like a guy you can root for from what I could tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: I’ve said in another thread if Buffalo had made the trade for CMC you O be too 5 ALL Time. The only thing your team needs is someone in the backfield who is truly feared. Unfortunately we didn’t go for CMC. But i’d love to see Beane to do something to improve our OL (don’t know if some very good one is available out there), improve our receivers corps (a slot typo or…. OBJ). I think we need those two spot fixed if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) not sure how great he is, but he might be as good as Jimmy G, which is all they need. Don't turn it over and make a few throws. I see the guy taking some serious shots though already, and I worry he won't last. He's already nicked up with an oblique injury. Obviously I love his game this past week! Edited December 13, 2022 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 18 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Yesterday he had another great game, it seem he has been in control all the game, very accurate and more. You that know the game much more than me, what’s your take on this ? If he’s for real the 49ers can have a serious shot to the SB. 6 games, 6 games of Tape for NFL DCs to break apart and then come talk to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: 6 games, 6 games of Tape for NFL DCs to break apart and then come talk to me. Ok, let’s get here in 6 games then 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I've seen Purdy play in college. He won a lot of games. He's a gamer - scrappy, intense, competitive, football-smart, coachable, etc. Those are great attributes to have as a QB. They may not get you to All-Pro status, but if you have enough athletic ability and a good team around you, you can have some success and I think Purdy will have some. I think that Purdy will have a successful NFL career as a backup with some starting mixed in. I don't know that he'll ever be a "franchise QB," but with SF's current offensive scheme and defense, the team can win with him. What teams really want is a gamer (scrappy, intense, competitive, football-smart, coachable, etc. ) who ALSO has top end athletic ability. Buffalo is fortunate to have just that in JA17. So back to the question posed by the original post - "for real or fools gold" I would say "for real" as long as you define what that means. Does it mean Purdy is the 2nd coming of Josh Allen, no, but does it mean that Purdy can play QB in the NFL and win some games, yes. Edited December 13, 2022 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: I’ve said in another thread if Buffalo had made the trade for CMC you O be too 5 ALL Time. The only thing your team needs is someone in the backfield who is truly feared. No. We need an offensive line that doesn’t absolutely suck. No offense can be top 5 of all time with a terrible OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Are we talking a great game like Raheem Blackshear had on Sunday or are we using a different definition here? Did anyone on the Bills have a great game against the Jets? Brock Purdy is a nice story for now, and good for him. I guess that's great for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: No. We need an offensive line that doesn’t absolutely suck. No offense can be top 5 of all time with a terrible OL. Allen hides a lot of warts on the O line with his legs.. I’m asking.. is your line as bad as the Pats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He's no Mike White... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udubalum07 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I have a family member that plays at Iowa state. Had played with Brock for the last three years. He is a great kid, leader, and had started a lot of college games, including most of his true freshman year at Iowa state. He really doesn't get rattled. The issue is he is not the most physically gifted, but all the intangibles are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 20 hours ago, WotAGuy said: I’m impressed. Josh wasn’t that decisive in his first two games. Amazing find. Agreed. My biggest worry with him is his size. He looks small out there and at 6'1'' 220, he is small by NFL standards. Without any special talent, i think he could struggle. But Kudos to SF for finding this guy. As someone mentioned, taking a QB with crazy numbers and a 3-4 year starter late in the draft is worth it. Some guys just know how to win Case Keenum was like that. At worst, you get an experienced backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He seems to have just enough mobility to actually make him dangerous in that offense. Solid run game, easy schemed throws, the ability to extend a bad play an extra 3 seconds is huge. I don’t think he’s going to be a long term starter as of right now, but I think they can still win meaningful games including playoffs with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Allen hides a lot of warts on the O line with his legs.. I’m asking.. is your line as bad as the Pats? I don’t watch enough patriot football in detail to know. Just like you don’t watch enough bills football in detail to know that Mccaffery would make our offense top 5 all time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t watch enough patriot football in detail to know. Just like you don’t watch enough bills football in detail to know that Mccaffery would make our offense top 5 all time. CMC IMO just that special of a talent on O. If nothing else would give Allen another reliable receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: CMC IMO just that special of a talent on O. If nothing else would give Allen another reliable receiver. Don’t get me wrong, he’d be phenomenal in our backfield…..but top 5 offenses ever….. with Ken Dorsey calling plays, Mckenzie in the slot, Gabe David WR2- Saffold, Spencer brown and Ryan bates starting in the OL? Cmac is special. Josh is even better. But there are too many holes that can’t be covered up by a RB in order to make this O top ever. Not even close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 He plays in the Shanahan System. No QB has ever been bad in it. Doesnt mean he's good. Garropolo was never actually good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Their D looks pretty impressive. With a conservative game manager type QB they could go deep into the playoffs. He's looked like more than just a game manager the first 2 games. A big question for me will be if they get into the playoffs, will he wilt under the pressure of it all, or keep playing with the confidence he's been showing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 In all honesty he seems like a smart player who works well in Shanahans QB friendly system. Another cog in the wheel so to speak. I don't mean any disrespect to him, he just isn't a guy to carry a team, he just works well in the system which is why he is on that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 3:39 PM, FrenchConnection said: The Shanahan system makes things easy for a QB. It’s the same reason that Tua is so much better this year. They just get the ball to playmakers in space and let them do the work. In fact, the Deebo injury will be more impactful than the Garoppolo injury. Yes, this is the opposite of the Bills offensive system, where veteran and rookie receivers can’t just be plugged in because it’s too complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 6:46 AM, Steptide said: Didn't the 9ers start a backup a qb a few years back who had like 3 or 4 really good games and then collapsed? Can't remember his name off the top of my head. 9ers have a really good team though. Mcafrey is a stud. Purdy doesn't have to be as good when you have playmakers like that there are dozens of recent examples. A few from the niners. Are you thinking of Colin kaepernick? 29 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Yes, this is the opposite of the Bills offensive system, where veteran and rookie receivers can’t just be plugged in because it’s too complicated. unfortunately, it ends with needing to pay a lot of elite play makers PLUS a mediocre qb getting the biggest pay check of all- making it hard long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: there are dozens of recent examples. A few from the niners. Are you thinking of Colin kaepernick? unfortunately, it ends with needing to pay a lot of elite play makers PLUS a mediocre qb getting the biggest pay check of all- making it hard long term. No, I was thinking of nick Mullens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Steptide said: No, I was thinking of nick Mullens That is who Purdy reminds me of so far too. A slightly more mobile Nick Mullens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 Ok… maybe it could seem exaggerated, but i really hate Brock Purdy. I hate the fact that people talk about him like the next Tom Brady. Will this Purdy circus-bandwagon end soon or will i have to tolerate this long time ? Can’t stand his fake-baby face any longer… and his raucous voice while at the snap count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 At least he's not in the Division... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 That team looks really good.. Possibly playing the best football in the game Chris Berman might get his wish of SF Buf SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Italian Bills said: Ok… maybe it could seem exaggerated, but i really hate Brock Purdy. I hate the fact that people talk about him like the next Tom Brady. Will this Purdy circus-bandwagon end soon or will i have to tolerate this long time ? Can’t stand his fake-baby face any longer… and his raucous voice while at the snap count. I’m with ya. But look at the guys supporting cast… McCaffrey, Debo, kittle, gimme a break I can QB that team. I’m sick of the Brock love too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) I don’t get ‘hate’ purdy. What has he done bad? Strong word. He’s a lucky man, for sure. A guy like Mac Jones swinging for men’s jewels—a better place for dislike. 49ers are a freakin stacked team Edited January 15, 2023 by Since1981 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 11 months ago at the draft he was Mr Irrelevant. Now he is the starting QB of a team two games away from the SB. Give the guy a little credit. Not every QB is Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biLLyBuFFs Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 the paint brush guy...Fuhgeddaboudit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Btw. Niners have QB 4 yr contract pick #262. Virtually a free QB! opens up a monster roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I have no issue with Purdy. Good for him. He’s clearly being put in a great position to succeed, and he’s taking full advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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