Blank Stare Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: By this thought process, you at least need to give Tre nine extra days then. At that point, you are allowed to be perplexed. Not when you consider Chase Young’s injury was reportedly more severe (torn ACL and MCL). Am I allowed to be perplexed now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 This frees Beane up to draft CB in the 1st round next year, right? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: This frees Beane up to draft CB in the 1st round next year, right? Mentally prepares self for RD1 S, RD2 DT, RD3 CB... Josh can make due with some 4-6 OL and skill players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Sorry, the thread title just gives me this type of image. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: GMFB discussing us this morning. Overall pretty positive, basically said we'll figure it out on Offense and just need to get healthy on Defense... but definitely a little bit of a concerned/sarcastic tone when talking about Tre White and when he's coming back. I only point that out to say that it's not just people on this board. Florio always points out that NFL network is the nfl’s mouth piece. Wonder if the Bills leaked some info to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Not when you consider Chase Young’s injury was reportedly more severe (torn ACL and MCL). Am I allowed to be perplexed now? Given this point, it’s fair for you to be perplexed about the state of Tre’s circumstance, relative to Chase. Your original statement indicated the two had a “similar injury”, although that doesn’t sound to be the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Regardless of if/when White comes back this season. At this point I would not be surprised if he's released or traded in the offseason especially since this secondary has fared reasonably well in his absence when everyone else has been healthy (specifically Poyer) going back to last year. Still think it's a myth they would have won in KC with him too because of his own history of failure in big games against top QB's/offenses. There are going to be a lot of tough decisions regardless given the current cap situation heading into the offseason and decisions on pending FA's that need to be made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 hours ago, gtw3 said: What about Tre White's career so far would lead anyone to question his desire to play? He is one of the highest energy players that I have ever seen. To insinuate that he is just choosing to sit out is boggling to me. From what I have read so far, he has been working incredibly hard to try and recoup and get back into football shape. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, there is a chance that the people who are in the building with him, working with him everyday might know a little bit more about his current readiness than us here on these boards? Do you think that maybe there are legitimate reasons why he was activated when he was, that affect not only him but also the rest of the roster moving forward to the end of this season and into the playoffs? Just my 2cents Just my opinion, but (for right or wrong), he lost a lot of support when he kept everyone guessing whether he would opt out of 2020 like Star did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, IronMaidenBills said: No reason to not play this game. We need him. Maybe he really did have a setback. Allen plays hurt and White isn’t even technically hurt, just “rehabbing” . I'm against starting him this week..supposed to be snow up to 2 inches and hour at kickoff....we don't need tre white this week....he makes his debut on Thanksgiving in the comforts of a dome imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Unless you’ve struggled with the physical and mental challenges of a major surgery that requires extensive rehab, you need to stfu. I have. It’s horrendous. And I’m not even a pro athlete. I remember the fist time I mowed my lawn. I’d done it hundreds of times before, but now it was different somehow. I remember the first time I practiced putting. I remember my first swing with a wedge and first with a driver. It’s scary, man. Physically difficult and mentally maddening. I went from breaking 80 regularly to having trouble shooting 100, and I didn’t know if I’d ever get back again. And that’s only golf! Tre gets all the time he needs as far as I’m concerned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 There's a genuine possibility that Tre will never be what he once after his knee surgery. If he loses half a step, he goes from elite corner to average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Rico said: Just my opinion, but (for right or wrong), he lost a lot of support when he kept everyone guessing whether he would opt out of 2020 like Star did. He played and no one has thought about summer of 2020 since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, uticaclub said: There's a genuine possibility that Tre will never be what he once after his knee surgery. If he loses half a step, he goes from elite corner to average at best. And this is also why the Bills would have been smart to adequately address the position in the offseason. Also have to wonder if they have asked him to restructure or take a pay cut which would explain what's happening behind the scenes right now with White still not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: McD said he is still not ready to hit the field. I think this is more of a mental issue with Tre more than anything else. I tend to agree. White waffled about covid too. He may just have an apprehensive mindset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And this is also why the Bills would have been smart to adequately address the position in the offseason. Also have to wonder if they have asked him to restructure or take a pay cut which would explain what's happening behind the scenes right now with White still not playing. How would restructuring Tre's contract have an impact on his status on game days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: How would restructuring Tre's contract have an impact on his status on game days? Because if he was asked to restructure and/or take a pay cut his camp may have taken that personally especially in light a serious injury so he's the one now refusing to play. Again, look at what all the talking heads in Buffalo have been saying in terms of how he looks on the field during practice. They are even scratching their heads as to why he's not back in the lineup and why this team has been very evasive about the situation when pressed on it. Regardless the time is now to get him back on the field before things spiral further out of control and it's going to take him at leas 2 or 3 games to get into true 'football shape' anyway so can't judge him if he's just as bad as some of these rookies have been out there in recent weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Is there any reason at all to think that has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, uticaclub said: There's a genuine possibility that Tre will never be what he once after his knee surgery. If he loses half a step, he goes from elite corner to average at best. We can't find out if he is if he doesn't play. I don't think anybody is saying throw him in and he plays 50-60 snaps. What I am saying is get him out there for 10-15 snaps just so he gets comfortable and gets his reaction time back up to speed for games. How do we know we need another CB if our $16M per year (right now he's pretty much dead cap because he isn't playing) player isn't playing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 5:08 PM, muppy said: which is BS. The loss hurts because of alllll the chances they had...it was a barnburner. We lost and #17 has some part in both being close AND almost pulled it out. We came up short I'm a fan of the Bills because it's my hometown team. I always want them to win and play well. But to be honest if they win the SB it doesn't do anything for me other than I'm happy their hard work was rewarded. However, their work is rewarded already by good earnings, and usually players do enjoy playing. Only benefit I get is watching good football. If much prefer the good plays occur from our offense and defense. When they don't I still get to see good football from opponents that have to play very well since our current team is very talented. They made some bad plays with some good plays the game was certainly entertaining. They deserved to lose the game while also playing good enough to have won the game. Yes as mcd says these type of loses can build character. I'd have preferred that the team had already sufficient character to win all these close games. Unfortunately, if there is some underlying resentment that hasn't been properly dealt with than that's a complete failure of leadership. I know I'll still be a Bills fan whether this squad wins the SB or not. Any players holding any grudges well hope they don't remain on my favorite team much longer and I don't care what name is on the back of the jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 White gonna be the new whipping boy around here? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: I'm a fan of the Bills because it's my hometown team. I always want them to win and play well. But to be honest if they win the SB it doesn't do anything for me other than I'm happy their hard work was rewarded. However, their work is rewarded already by good earnings, and usually players do enjoy playing. Only benefit I get is watching good football. If much prefer the good plays occur from our offense and defense. When they don't I still get to see good football from opponents that have to play very well since our current team is very talented. They made some bad plays with some good plays the game was certainly entertaining. They deserved to lose the game while also playing good enough to have won the game. Yes as mcd says these type of loses can build character. I'd have preferred that the team had already sufficient character to win all these close games. Unfortunately, if there is some underlying resentment that hasn't been properly dealt with than that's a complete failure of leadership. I know I'll still be a Bills fan whether this squad wins the SB or not. Any players holding any grudges well hope they don't remain on my favorite team much longer and I don't care what name is on the back of the jersey. If we have to repeatedly "rebuild" character every year then maybe the problem lies elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: If we have to repeatedly "rebuild" character every year then maybe the problem lies elsewhere. Indeed. Especially when one of the checkmark they look for when drafting is character. Looks like they bought in to alot of lip-service. I'm pretty much thinking they are getting what they deserve. If they can reach deep inside and pull together as one team they may deserve a SB ring, if not then hoping the SB Champs are deserving. Then these guys can see if they can learn for future seasons. Edited November 15, 2022 by AuntieEm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Every time we give up a passing TD or big play I feel like the president in Super Man 2. "Super man, can you hear me! Super man!" except I'm yelling Tre's name instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Having a serious injury that takes up to a year to recover from and hearing fans question you is inane. Take your time Mr White. Come back when you and the coaches feel the time is right. I expect him to be back for the Detroit game but that is me hoping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 5:06 PM, Roundybout said: The most overrated player in the history of the team. That has been my hot take for a couple seasons and I'm sticking with it. No. That’s definitely Dion Dawkins…..but Tre is very overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Just IR him until next season and get it over with. I seriously doubt he’s going to come back at a pro bowl level this season given how long this is lingering and the distraction is ridiculous. JMO. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I second for putting him on IR, the rest of the year. He will not be anywhere near 100% if he comes back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Every time we give up a passing TD or big play I feel like the president in Super Man 2. "Super man, can you hear me! Super man!" except I'm yelling Tre's name instead Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Ought Oh. Looks like the Tredavian Nightmare is getting the Jarius Byrd treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 hours ago, uticaclub said: There's a genuine possibility that Tre will never be what he once after his knee surgery. If he loses half a step, he goes from elite corner to average at best. There’s also a genuine possibility he will be better than before. 10 months after tearing his ACL and MCL, Adrian Peterson won the 2012 NFL MVP after rushing for over 2,000 yards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 6 hours ago, BillyBilliams said: We can't find out if he is if he doesn't play. I don't think anybody is saying throw him in and he plays 50-60 snaps. What I am saying is get him out there for 10-15 snaps just so he gets comfortable and gets his reaction time back up to speed for games. How do we know we need another CB if our $16M per year (right now he's pretty much dead cap because he isn't playing) player isn't playing? We as fans don’t need to see him in the field during the game to find this out. The coaches can tell during practice every day, whether he’s ready to compete at an NFL level or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Beast said: There’s also a genuine possibility he will be better than before. 10 months after tearing his ACL and MCL, Adrian Peterson won the 2012 NFL MVP after rushing for over 2,000 yards. Are you compairing other humans to Adrian Peterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 hours ago, streetkings01 said: White gonna be the new whipping boy around here? It’s people’s unrealistic expectations. I remember reading on here over the summer that he’d be ready for camp and week 1 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Posts like these make me ashamed to be a Bills fan. Honestly, what kind of sick person posts something like this? Millionaires or not, these athletes risk severe brain/body trauma every time they step on the field. People like you are what’s wrong w/ society. Tre White is an amazing player & person. We are blessed to have him on this team. We are cursed to have “fans” like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: It’s people’s unrealistic expectations. I remember reading on here over the summer that he’d be ready for camp and week 1 lol. It’s not unrealistic when other NFL players who were injured at the same time as him are already playing. One of them was injured a couple weeks before Tre and he started the first game of the season! Two months ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: It’s not unrealistic when other NFL players who were injured at the same time as him are already playing. One of them was injured a couple weeks before Tre and he started the first game of the season! Two months ago! You do realize a corners knee takes much more of a twisting/cutting in and out than every other position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Godwin came back to full health with same injury and was injured later on then White was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 1:59 PM, IronMaidenBills said: No reason to not play this game. We need him. Maybe he really did have a setback. Allen plays hurt and White isn’t even technically hurt, just “rehabbing” . Wake me once you’ve made one good post or comment. Just one. Not a lot to ask. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Airseven said: I tend to agree. White waffled about covid too. He may just have an apprehensive mindset. I was gonna mention that exact same thing about Covid. I think he may have some serious worries about the future of his family if something happens to him. He is already set for life. If he feels he is risking his future, then just retire. If you're not gonna gut it out like the rest of your teammates, then just hang them up already. If he played against the Vikes, the Bills win. He ain't letting Jefferson make that long 4th down play. I would personally have no problem with him stepping away if he is worried about his health. But stop stringing this ***** out. ***** or get off the pot. Edited November 16, 2022 by Bubba Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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