smuvtalker Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I did a search prior to posting this, my apologies if it's already being discussed. I just finished watching a clip from The Carton Show on a preview of the Bills Jets game, and Jets DE John Franklin-Myers was quoted as saying that Josh Allen pleads with the refs for penalty calls....and all I could say was.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? First off, this is the DE who singlehandedly cost the Jets the game last week with his boneheaded roughing the passer penalty. His stupid penalty wiped away an 85 yard pick six that would've essentially put the game away. So what does he do for an encore? Brings up a player completely unrelated, and tries to say Allen is a flopper, and pleads with the refs for calls. Let me say this. I'm as big a Bills fan as anyone, and I've been guilty on more than one occasion of having a biased opinion when it comes to our Bills, but this comment is pure absurdity at it's most impressive. Josh Allen in my opinion has NEVER flopped OR pleaded with the refs for a call he didnt deserve. If anything, Allen takes way more hits with no flags called than pretty much any quarterback I've seen with the exception of Cam Newton, MAYBE. I believe that a big reason for that is his aggressive running style, and also that he's probably better at dishing punishment out than any other QB to play the game. Jets players and coaches alike have got to be wanting to shove this guy in a closet for making comments like this prior to the game. As if Allen and company needed any additional motivation, I'm sure this raised some eyebrows in the Bills locker room. Sometimes I really wonder what is going through a players mind when they make these type of idiotic statements. Thoughts? 4 9 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) He isn’t wrong, they all do it. Josh has embellished hits before and he definitely goads then into hits. nothing burger here. Edited November 3, 2022 by WyoAZBillfan 1 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Umm Josh does flop....but he is OUR flopper so we love it when it works! 10 8 6 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Josh Allen wouldn't be doing his job if he DIDN"T ask for calls from the Ref and it doesn't hurt, Josh is a naturally liked person and it is always part of the game to try and get calls. 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 There’s been a soccerizing of N. American sports. They almost all cry after calls and plays regularly. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Decent enough player. Not good enough to have his opinion of Josh Allen count for much of anything. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I just see this as an attempt to get into our players heads. Let him talk and whine to the media and Josh and the offense should just focus on doing what they do taking what is open on any given play. Our guys playing their game beats their guys playing their game if they keep their focus where it should be. Let them make the stupid mistakes when they can't keep up with the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineforty Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, I am the egg man said: There’s been a soccerizing of N. American sports. They almost all cry after calls and plays regularly. Theres whining in every sport. Id agree with you that the flopping has increased in NBA and college basketball (has NBA been better recently?) But i dont see it as something new or increasing in the NFL. And i love soccer, but cannot stand the flopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hell hath no fury like a hyphenated surname scorned. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, smuvtalker said: I'm as big a Bills fan as anyone, and I've been guilty on more than one occasion of having a biased opinion when it comes to our Bills, but this comment is pure absurdity at it's most impressive. Josh Allen in my opinion has NEVER flopped OR pleaded with the refs for a call he didnt deserve. If anything, Allen takes way more hits with no flags called than pretty much any quarterback I've seen with the exception of Cam Newton, MAYBE. I believe that a big reason for that is his aggressive running style, and also that he's probably better at dishing punishment out than any other QB to play the game. My man ... gotta tell you ... you're a homer if you really think this. 3 15 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Josh has absolutely punished defenders for getting a late push on him by flopping. Alternatively Jets have been some dirtys SOBs. 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: BASTARDS!😡 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rigotz said: My man ... gotta tell you ... you're a homer if you really think this. ALLEN HIMSELF would think he is a homer for saying that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 thats not really trash talk and he is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Allen does try to get calls. He takes dives and everything. As he should. I’ve never cared when a player tries to get a call, it works. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hmmm, this thread actually seems to run strangely parallel to the incident in question... trying to stir outrage over a perceived slight that was actually pretty tame in actuality. @smuvtalker, you, sir, are a message board flopper!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) My friends that root for other teams have said that about Allen. I don't think he does it as much as say, Mahomes. But he does his share. We're going to win on Sunday regardless. Edited November 3, 2022 by ToGoGo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Every QB in the NFL pleads for PI, late hits, etc. Its literally part of their job to do that. Show me a QB who doesn't and I will show you a bad QB. 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson said: I mean the defender literally shoved him late, so any good player is going to sell the contact. The contact was absolutely illegal though in the first place. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 All QB's plead for calls. Many of Allen's are legitimate. Either way, I hope JA17 Van Noy's ole boy this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said: He isn’t wrong, they all do it. Josh has embellished hours before and he definitely goads then into hits. nothing burger here. Yeah, all of them do to some degree and Allen has even admitted to trying to sell a call a time or two...if I was Myers I'd be more worried about my QB putting up one of the worst offensive showings in a long time against this defense in their last game when the Jets had 59 total yards, 40 of which came on a single pass play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) This is the game you hope Case Keenum gets into as fast as possible. Everyone knows the Jets play to just past the whistle. As QB2, it's his job to take those revenge hits for QB1. 🙂 Also getting out of that swamp injury free is crucial as players all over the league complain about that turf. Edited November 3, 2022 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: There’s been a soccerizing of N. American sports. They almost all cry after calls and plays regularly. It's not a soccer thing, it's a human being thing. Everyone does this all over the world in all sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I love it when the Bills beat the Jets. I particularily love when the NY media crys about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Josh does have a reputation outside buffalo fans as throwing “temper tantrums” between tossing the ball in that chiefs players face a couple years ago and reacting to non calls on occasion it’s warranted. As others have said most quarterbacks do it. People wouldn’t care if the player isn’t so great. If that’s the best thing people can come up with to hate on him more power to em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 He is a flopper and a LB hopper and a stat topper his arm is a jaw dropper ok I'll stopper sorry 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: It's not a soccer thing, it's a human being thing. Everyone does this all over the world in all sports. There’s flopping, then there’s soccer player flopping 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, smuvtalker said: I did a search prior to posting this, my apologies if it's already being discussed. I just finished watching a clip from The Carton Show on a preview of the Bills Jets game, and Jets DE John Franklin-Myers was quoted as saying that Josh Allen pleads with the refs for penalty calls....and all I could say was.... ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? First off, this is the DE who singlehandedly cost the Jets the game last week with his boneheaded roughing the passer penalty. His stupid penalty wiped away an 85 yard pick six that would've essentially put the game away. So what does he do for an encore? Brings up a player completely unrelated, and tries to say Allen is a flopper, and pleads with the refs for calls. Let me say this. I'm as big a Bills fan as anyone, and I've been guilty on more than one occasion of having a biased opinion when it comes to our Bills, but this comment is pure absurdity at it's most impressive. Josh Allen in my opinion has NEVER flopped OR pleaded with the refs for a call he didnt deserve. If anything, Allen takes way more hits with no flags called than pretty much any quarterback I've seen with the exception of Cam Newton, MAYBE. I believe that a big reason for that is his aggressive running style, and also that he's probably better at dishing punishment out than any other QB to play the game. Jets players and coaches alike have got to be wanting to shove this guy in a closet for making comments like this prior to the game. As if Allen and company needed any additional motivation, I'm sure this raised some eyebrows in the Bills locker room. Sometimes I really wonder what is going through a players mind when they make these type of idiotic statements. Thoughts? Allen has never flopped? Oh yes he has lol and he was greatly criticized for it too a few years ago. And yes, he does plead with the ref for calls, as does every QB in the league as they are so heavily protected and any penalty against them results in an automatic first down. Flop flop Flop Flop and beg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Due to the no-call on the Chris Jones tripping play, Josh gets at least another half-dozen of earnest and emphatic beseeches of the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It's not a soccer thing, it's a human being thing. Everyone does this all over the world in all sports. Lol ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Due to the no-call on the Chris Jones tripping play, Josh gets at least another half-dozen of earnest and emphatic beseeches of the refs. The way Josh came up kicking his leg was hilarious. It looked like the video was on fast forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Screw the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, transient said: Hmmm, this thread actually seems to run strangely parallel to the incident in question... trying to stir outrage over a perceived slight that was actually pretty tame in actuality. @smuvtalker, you, sir, are a message board flopper!! Lol my bad. Perhaps my homerism has blinded me to the fact that maybe he does flop or plead for a call every now and again. But in 100% honesty, I really cannot think of a time when I saw him do this. Again I actually felt the opposite in that he takes quite a few hits that could've easily or even should've drawn a flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: There’s flopping, then there’s soccer player flopping Here's 10 minutes worth of the same stuff on NFL fields... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Ha. Craig Carton. Ha. The Jets. Ha. Jonathan Franklin-Meyers. Haahahahahahahaha. Don’t wake the sleeping giant. That team has one good player on defense. Good luck covering anyone not across from Sauce Gardner. F word the Jets. Forever. Go Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) That guy should ask Jalen Ramsey how talking trash about Josh worked out for him. Edited November 3, 2022 by WhoTom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I hope this Myers dude gets a totally bogus roughing-the-passer called against him this weekend. I would laugh.....and laugh....and laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: There’s flopping, then there’s soccer player flopping That's like an OT flinching a full second after a DE jumps into the neutral zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Lotta butt hurt soccer players on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 who cares, the jets are irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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