Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I'd agree thats why we got him, all im saying is a super bowl was not a guarantee just bc the rams did it and won. The stars aligned for the rams last year. Beane talked about not trading for Von because he didn’t know if he’d be a rental. Von is a difference maker and Beane didn’t pull the trigger. He’s not pulling the trigger this year either IMO. Values picks too much. Edited November 1, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Honestly this is a pretty good thread lmao Actually a best one today. I was planning to start the same once this deadline is over. Teams are making half desperate moves in order to catch us, since we made a move last off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just another victim for a Josh straight arm into the turf! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Dolphins are living rent free in some of your heads after a week 3 loss in which we dominated everything but the scoreboard and then proceeded to win the next 4 games and counting. Does Chubb make them better? Absolutely. But I am 100% fine with them spending their cache of draft picks in a vain attempt to catch us. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: How do you figure this? I’d wager Fins are the #5 seed and Chiefs will be the #2 seed… if anything I’d guess the Phins would play the Titans round 1 setting up an epic divisional game in Buffalo if they win. Not going to be close in 30 mph winds and snow. First time in the Allen era I’ve felt secure that is now a legit home field advantage Its more because of this years D but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The dolphins are going to lose to the Bears this weekend, I’m pretty sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Here's the deal w/ the rematch against the Dolphins - they won't be able to enjoy spending most of the game in weather that's over 10 degrees cooler than the opposing team. They gotta come to the cold. I wonder if we can prevent them from using heaters on the sideline, just for a little tit for tat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Miller is a short-term fix. Chubb can be a long-term difference maker. There’s a reason the Dolphins gave up so much. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Since exploding as a rookie with 12 sacks Chubb has played in 33 games in 4 years including this year. In those 4 years he has 14 sacks. I get that he has name recognition but I think a 1st for a half year is a wild overpay. If they work an extension out things change but I'm not terrified of this move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Can someone please wake up Bean and let him know about this !? Edited November 1, 2022 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: You should just give up. I’ve had this argument a couple times now. We all agree that Tua is no Allen or Mahomes. But some people won’t even concede that he’s playing very well and he could easily take them as far as, say, Tannehill took the Titans. Which on a good day with the right breaks makes them dangerous. I think all that criticism comes from a place of fear … He’s doing what he’s asked to do consistently from what little I’ve seen of him this season while avoiding the mistakes. I’m sure his coaches and teammates are more than happy about that, too. And that’s all that really matters when it comes down to it. Look, I’ve hated Miami forever and they will always be my most hated rival team, but that’s never blinded me to the reality that opponents, no matter how much I hate them, can have good players playing well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Airseven said: Miller is a short-term fix. Chubb can be a long-term difference maker. There’s a reason the Dolphins gave up so much. Chubb has been hurt every year he’s played. Major injuries too. He won’t last long in the AFC East. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 In the immortal words of the almighty James Hetfield: "So f@#%$n' what?!" Lemme know when Miami figures out how to put up more than 21 on a team not below .500. Also, Tua definitely doesn't use his turn signal when he drives. Jaylen Waddle puts mustard on his pancakes. And Tyreek Hill abuses children. Overall, this means they are a bunch of scrub-bums managed by a guy who looks like he wants to sell you a washing machine at Best Buy. Don't care who gets who and neither do the Bills. Chubb can go have zero sacks in Miami now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Three ways to get a player... Draft. My favorite way to get players is in the draft. The only appreciable cost is the opportunity cost. For example, if we draft the RB we like in the 3rd round, it means we didn't draft the LB or whoever else we liked. Free Agency. A difference-making free agent is usually going to cost a large sum of money. I'm happy to have Von, but we can't sign a bunch of high-priced FAs if we want to build a roster that achieves sustained success. Trade. This is my least favorite way to acquire a player because you often give up draft capital and then assume a big contract. Or you're looking at a big contract to re-sign him when the existing contract soon expires. Miami got a good player in Chubb but are giving up a 1st rounder and will have to pay the man. If I'm a Phin fan, I'm probably not a fan of this trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Wow clever thread👎 7 minutes ago, Airseven said: Miller is a short-term fix. Chubb can be a long-term difference maker. There’s a reason the Dolphins gave up so much. Not sure about short term. 6 year contract and it is hard to get out of until year 4. That's long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, K-9 said: He’s doing what he’s asked to do consistently from what little I’ve seen of him this season while avoiding the mistakes. I’m sure his coaches and teammates are more than happy about that, too. And that’s all that really matters when it comes down to it. Look, I’ve hated Miami forever and they will always be my most hated rival team, but that’s never blinded me to the reality that opponents, no matter how much I hate them, can have good players playing well. I’m no Dolphins fan either, but that doesn’t stop me from saying I really like what McDaniel and the GM are doing, and that watching this track meet offense is entertaining (at least when they’re not playing us). Will this be sustainable long term? Who knows, but it’s kind of a fascinating doubling down on what KC did with Tyreek and his game altering speed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Chubb has had 5.5 sacks this season. 2.5 versus the Colts with Ryan as QB, 1 vs SF and 2 vs Seahawks this past weekend. He is good, but I don't see adding one DE and exchanging RBs as game-changing moves. Getting Hill and pairing him with Waddle was. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: No, but take away Hill and Waddle and I think he'd be out of his depth. I'd say Hill is slightly better than Diggs (blasphemy?) and Waddle is better than Davis, but take those two away from Josh and he'd still be executing at a high level. I don't think the same can be said for Tua. Josh is flat out a better QB in every respect, so yeah, I think he’d adjust much better to the loss of his top two receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr. Football said: I had a bad feeling they we’re going to get him. They outbid both Seahawks and rams. Jets pulled out of the trade 9 minutes ago, K-9 said: He’s doing what he’s asked to do consistently from what little I’ve seen of him this season while avoiding the mistakes. I’m sure his coaches and teammates are more than happy about that, too. And that’s all that really matters when it comes down to it. Look, I’ve hated Miami forever and they will always be my most hated rival team, but that’s never blinded me to the reality that opponents, no matter how much I hate them, can have good players playing well. Tua has definitely turned things around and he fits McDaniels system perfectly. It’s nice that Buffalo and Miami have taken back the AFC East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: It’s nice that Buffalo and Miami have taken back the AFC East. Absolutely. I’d love to have our decade or two with no real competition in the division just like NE had, but hey, I can handle the Pats being a perennial last place team just fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Motor26 said: The dolphins are going to lose to the Bears this weekend, I’m pretty sure. Bears lost two key players on defense and Fields is struggling. Miami is gonna win that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. 2 5 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Success said: Here's the deal w/ the rematch against the Dolphins - they won't be able to enjoy spending most of the game in weather that's over 10 degrees cooler than the opposing team. They gotta come to the cold. I wonder if we can prevent them from using heaters on the sideline, just for a little tit for tat? I hope we put snow-making machines on their side of the field that day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 People can shrug about this all they want, but I'll be honest... I'm not happy. He's a strong talent at the position & still young. We may have signed a better player & HOFer in Miller, but Chubb can be a difference maker in a different way. 10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. I don't think they're a threat for the division unless the Bills collapse, but they'll be a tougher out in December & potentially the playoffs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Chubb has 5.5 sacks in his last 17 games. 4.5 of those sacks came in 2 games. So that’s 1 sack in the other 15 games. Edited November 1, 2022 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: F U Broncos Well, the Broncos pick of Chubb in 2018 may have been a catalyst for the Bills being able to get Josh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Well, the Broncos pick of Chubb in 2018 may have been a catalyst for the Bills being able to get Josh. Thank you John Elway! Glad he doesn't know a competent QB, so happy Josh landed in Buffalo it was perfect spot for all involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 For anyone looking for a good laugh, this is pure gold. https://finheaven.com/threads/our-window-is-open-right-now.375313/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Missing piece to a first round exit....yep 7 minutes ago, Process said: For anyone looking for a good laugh, this is pure gold. https://finheaven.com/threads/our-window-is-open-right-now.375313/ Gold, pure gold Jerry.... "we just won the AFC east... bwhahahahahahahahahaha. I needed that laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBilliams Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Dolphins will be a world of hurt when they realize they have no draft picks, nor a Quarterback.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think Miami got fleeced. Chubb is not worth a 1st. 1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Dolphins are living rent free in some of your heads after a week 3 loss in which we dominated everything but the scoreboard and then proceeded to win the next 4 games and counting. Does Chubb make them better? Absolutely. But I am 100% fine with them spending their cache of draft picks in a vain attempt to catch us. This is exactly right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. I agree with you here. Unsure if I would leap frog the Chiefs, but I think they are sort of a tweener between KC and grouping of teams. But that doesn't have anything to do with this move. Mostly because of the below. 27 minutes ago, Beast said: Chubb has 5.5 sacks in his last 17 games. 4.5 of those sacks came in 2 games. So that’s 1 sack in the other 15 games. I really think Chubb gets a Bud Dupree sized deal, that paired with the loss of a first and a likely bloated Tua deal could really cement them as a high floor low ceiling team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Dolphins still haven't figured out that trading picks for proven talent is ok.. if you don't have to give them tons of money too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Man, I was just thinking that the Dolphins made this move solely for Josh Allen. How awesome would it be if they came in in December after giving up a 1st and stupid extension and Chubb got zero pressures, hits, sacks, or batted passes, but got flagged like 3 times for jumping Offside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. If they weren’t a couple games behind already I think people would be more worried. I don’t see a whole lot of losses left on the bills schedule. The dolphins still have a below average offensive line and a qb that doesn’t go through progressions well and don’t cover well on the defensive side. Even if they pulled out the win in buffalo I don’t think they’re catching us still…they have a pretty tough 4 week stretch coming up soon: @49ers @chargers @bills home vs GB Bills will likely have the first round bye and Miami is pretty likely gonna lose the 3 seed vs 6 seed or 4 seed vs 5 seed road game Edited November 1, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallser Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Airseven said: BOOM. Dolphins survived the Tua fiasco and now they're shooting their shot. They'll be right on Bills heels to the end. We need the turd emoji for this one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. I heard some stupid s*** in my life but this one has to be the front runner 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 So what? Why are fans losing their feces over this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Massive power move by the Dolphins. I know some here will continue to downplay them and act as if they aren't a real threat, but I'm not so sure the division is a lock for the Bills now. In fact will go as far to say this puts the dolphins right up there, possibly even surpassing the Chiefs, as the biggest hurdle to get to the SB now. That has got to be the strongest bourbon someone has ever drank to come up with that thought. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Motor26 said: That has got to be the strongest bourbon someone has ever drank to come up with that thought. I’m curious if it’s the same people that have hyped the dolphins up the last few years or they have won over some new converts 😂. their defense has been bad in a way that a pass rushing linebacker won’t help them much…they have 0 offensive line depth and a pretty bad starting group to begin with. People seem obsessed with offensive yards as the indicator of how good a team is these days. If we’re assuming teams are getting healthier down the stretch I’d much rather see Miami over baltimore and kc 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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