Punching Bag Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Chris Jones clearly tripped Allen against the rules and referee was right there. https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/10/17/nfl-world-reacts-missed-tripping-penalty-bills-chiefs-josh-allen I wonder if referee will be assigned any more Bills games. I doubt they will suspend him for a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Nothing will happen. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Make EVERYTHING reviewable. 1 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Nothing will happen. Exactly The NFL rules over their refs. These clowns rarely if ever get disciplined. Hell, they hardly get graded. Nothing will happen. Swept under rug. Games will continue to be officiated by flawed people. Edited October 17, 2022 by LABILLBACKER 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 If it's something to get fined for he'll probably get fined for it, but that's about it. Nothing ever happens with the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. 1 2 6 11 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. Doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, but it was... VERY deliberate: That's as deliberate as it gets! 9 5 1 5 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 What trip? I didn't see a trip, did you see a trip? These refs do great jobs out there. That was one of the worst ***** no calls I have seen this year. Maybe if Josh got his leg broke they may have possibly thrown a flag. These guys are absolutely clueless. They threw a flag for a block in the back in the Philly game. After the officials huddled, they said no foul on the play. The on air official that they went to, (Steratore) I think, said with a chuckle, that was 100% a penalty and they never should've picked up the flag. And it was that slow witted Hussey that did the Bills game last week where he went ballistic and threw Epenesa out. The guy is a rogue clown who thinks he can call the game the way he sees, and never has to check with the booth. Always has a miserable piss face as well. 21 minutes ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. You need to watch more football and read up on the rules. That was one of the most blatant tripping plays I've ever seen. 6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, but it was... VERY deliberate: That's as deliberate as it gets! That's a 100% dirty play, no doubt about it. Jones should be fined, but that will never happen. NE been doing it for years. Especially when Edelman was still there. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Move on 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Dirty play from a sorry ass overrated dirty ass bum 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) Back in the day he’s get a nice chop block at the knee, from a side angle, the next snap he was on the field. Edited October 17, 2022 by Beast 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Is the McRib in season? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 All officiating crews are reviewed after every game, and the best crews are awarded playoff games and the SB. So yes, that will for sure serve to make this ref down, at least you would hope. It was immediately obvious that it was intentional the moment I saw it. I can't believe the referee standing right there did NOT call it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. Watch the replay again. Jones fully extends his leg in Josh's direction, as the photo in @ExiledInIllinois's post shows. It was clearly deliberate and the incompetent reffing crew we had today let it go. An egregiously bad non-call. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, but it was... VERY deliberate: That's as deliberate as it gets! Lol. The ref is the only person in the stadium who could of taken a better picture then that, and we have evidence to prove it’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. I thought that at first watching it live but then I saw the replay. Ref may have seen the same thing in real time. That's where a sky judge would come in handy for the clear and obvious missed calls like that. Edited October 17, 2022 by Doc Brown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I expect a nicely worded letter to be sent to the Bills organization "hey, sorry we missed that call. My bad. Sincerely, NFL" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Look at the SI replay and you see the Ref in perfect position to make the call. Heck Jones barely celebrated as he was waiting for the flag. Very obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 There was something about the ref's body language when he was telling Josh to give him the ball that irks me, like he had a bone to pick with him, thus the non-call. Like a nerdy hall-monitor being given power over the jock. I mean, if you think about the scrutiny that RTP is under right now and the fact that it happened like 3 feet from that ref...is it really possible that he missed what 100% of people watching in real time saw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 He could’ve taken Allen out for the season with that move and that ref that had that happen right in front of him should be fired. 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: I expect a nicely worded letter to be sent to the Bills organization "hey, sorry we missed that call. My bad. Sincerely, NFL" Don’t we already have enough of these letters to fill the locker room wall with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. I’m just going to take this as a joke and move on. If you really are serious I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you to watch it a few more times. If I’m training the refs what to look for when calling tripping I would be showing them a video of this exact play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, but it was... VERY deliberate: That's as deliberate as it gets! Coupled with his reputation as being a dirty player, he should most certainly get a fine. No place in the game for this crap, people can get hurt doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: All officiating crews are reviewed after every game, and the best crews are awarded playoff games and the SB. So yes, that will for sure serve to make this ref down, at least you would hope. It was immediately obvious that it was intentional the moment I saw it. I can't believe the referee standing right there did NOT call it. As you said, the red was right there. What "under officious jerk". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. Stick to soccer bub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, Spiderweb said: As you said, the ref was right there. What "under officious jerk". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) I can’t help but think that the horrible roughing call Jones had against the Raiders last week came into play here. Refs gave him a freebie at the expense of a franchise QB. Edited October 17, 2022 by Hsker4life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 That could have been a pivotal moment in the game. It should have been 10 yards and an automatic 1st down for the Bills. Instead the Bills punt the ball back to the Chiefs. There were two refs in the backfield watching the play happen. You can see the refs arm in the picture staring at Jones and Allen as it happens. He can't be more than ten feet away from the play. I just don't know how that doesn't get called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The counter to this argument is that he was held by us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly The NFL rules over their refs. These clowns rarely if ever get disciplined. Hell, they hardly get graded. Nothing will happen. Swept under rug. Games will continue to be officiated by flawed people. The officials are graded each week on every play. That is how the crews / individual officials are picked for playoffs / Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Sharky7337 said: The counter to this argument is that he was held by us as well. Ticky tack hold at best, Jones beat him, but not a blatant hold. But as much of a hold as those called on the Bills secondary, so surprised a holding penalty on the Bills wasn't the only one called on the play (which would have been hilarious). Now if we really want to go down the rabbit hole. They realized there'd be heck to pay if a flag was thrown and only the Bills penalized (declined), and offsetting would have replayed the down, so as soon as Allen went down neither was thrown. The ref was in perfect position to see the trip. No one was in position to call holding (if there was any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern bills Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The way I see it is, yes refs blow calls each week, there were a few in this game. With the way roughing the passer has been called this year, there is no way the ref should have missed that call. The good news is the team did not lose its composure and was able to finish the game. I saw an article that said the Rams are planning to propose roughing the passer being able to be challenged. It would be nice to also be able to challenge missed calls. Of course if the refs treat it the same way they did passing interference any rule change would be pointless anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Should be a 15 yard penalty the next time we play KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffMuff Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 My inner Steve Sabo cant wait to see Josh Allen's dance afterward on this year's Football Follies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Doesn't have to be deliberate to be a penalty, but it was... VERY deliberate: That's as deliberate as it gets! i was waiting for us to be called for holding honestly. even their mini meeting on that i was waiting for it. or josh to be fined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Chicharito said: To be totally honest I don’t see it being deliberate. Looks like he was almost cutting and switching directions with a lineman on his back. I know I’ll be ridiculed but that’s my observation. You should stick to soccer, chicharito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, UConn James said: Make EVERYTHING reviewable. And make the game 4 hrs. long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: Chris Jones clearly tripped Allen against the rules and referee was right there. https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/10/17/nfl-world-reacts-missed-tripping-penalty-bills-chiefs-josh-allen I wonder if referee will be assigned any more Bills games. I doubt they will suspend him for a game. Nothing happens. You might even see Jones hit with a fine which is ridiculous considering it was called a penalty on the field. I just wish NFL officials would be honest and say “yeah it happened fast and we blew that call.” Instead, they’ll find some ridiculous way to justify the call. This is what makes NFL officiating so frustrating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: You should stick to soccer, chicharito. Nice reference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, mabden said: And make the game 4 hrs. long. More commercials. More $$$$ for the NFL. We may be on to something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 The refs will get dinged on their e v a l for missing such an obvious trip, and I think Jones gets a token fine for the dirty play. Shame on Jones and shame on the refs for somehow looking the other way on such a game changing illegal play right in plain view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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