Week 5: Steelers at Bills 10/9 1pm

[Warcodered]

 

[Bray Wyatt]

5 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Thought that was Dane on a corner blitz...very possible I'm mistaken tho

I saw one on Dane as well, thought it was number 30 anyway, guy grabbed his shoulder pad after he was already but and held it forever it seemed, no call

[BADOLBILZ]

22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

"It could be worse" isn't the point. The point is that even the best coaches in the league are often questioned for their decision making. The best coaches in the league can't win consistently without a top QB. McDermott isn't clearly the best coach in the league but he is clearly one of them.

 

 

 

I have no idea what point you were trying to make.......I didn't see what you said prior nor was I responding to you.

 

"It could be worse" wrt coaching staffs is just an excuse the timid use to excuse failure or to justify non-action.    As I said.......McDermott isn't on any kind of hot seat IMO.    But could he one day be seen as a Tony Dungy-in-Tampa type whose message runs its course and then be succeeded by a coach who gives the team a better chance to win a SB in that moment?   Even if that succeeding coach doesn't go on to win more overall games in his career or achieve some other metric of longevity that McDermott might?   Yes.   It's literally been done.   And ultimately it's about winning SB's.

 

 

[HappyDays]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

I have no idea what point you were trying to make.......I didn't see what you said prior nor was I responding to you.

 

"It could be worse" wrt coaching staffs is just an excuse the timid use to excuse failure or to justify non-action.    As I said.......McDermott isn't on any kind of hot seat IMO.    But could he one day be seen as a Tony Dungy-in-Tampa type whose message runs its course and then be succeeded by a coach who gives the team a better chance to win a SB in that moment?   Even if that succeeding coach doesn't go on to win more overall games in his career or achieve some other metric of longevity that McDermott might?   Yes.   It's literally been done.   And ultimately it's about winning SB's.

 

 

 

I don't think the point you responded to is that "it could be worse." No one is comparing McDermott to Nate Hackett. He's being compared to coaches like Tomlin and Harbaugh and Belichick in the sense that even great coaches make questionable decisions. It's NOT that we should feel lucky because things could always be worse, it's that it's really hard to find better than what we have in McDermott. We are several years away from even having the conversation about replacing him.

 

Andy Reid was with the Eagles for 13 years. McDermott is just about at the halfway point of that time frame. Pederson wasn't fired because he was a poor coach, he was fired because he got in an internal battle with the GM and the GM won. If Allen is approaching his age 30 season and we still don't have a Lombardi I will entertain the notion of moving on from McDermott.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

4 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

 

I don't trust our head coach. So yes, I am concerned with every game. Between our loss to the Jaguars last year, our first half against the Bucs, our blowout loss to the Titans at home, and our playoff loss to the Chiefs last year, I have reason to be concerned.  And that doesn't include the wind game against the Pats or the opening loss to the Steelers.  1 or 2 bad games is ok, not 5 or 6 of them. We started again this year with the incomplete games.  Week in and week out this team is not playing up to what it is capable of doing. 

 

You are clearly a recent band-wagon fan. McDermott is inarguably one of the top 4 coaches in the franchise history (62 years long) and arguably top 2. 

Please move on to root for a team with an all-time great coach like Belichick. They are doing fantastic this year, just like Tomlin's Steelers. 

[Doc Brown]

17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

I have no idea what point you were trying to make.......I didn't see what you said prior nor was I responding to you.

 

"It could be worse" wrt coaching staffs is just an excuse the timid use to excuse failure or to justify non-action.    As I said.......McDermott isn't on any kind of hot seat IMO.    But could he one day be seen as a Tony Dungy-in-Tampa type whose message runs its course and then be succeeded by a coach who gives the team a better chance to win a SB in that moment?   Even if that succeeding coach doesn't go on to win more overall games in his career or achieve some other metric of longevity that McDermott might?   Yes.   It's literally been done.   And ultimately it's about winning SB's.

Pegula doesn't seem like the kind of owner who will make that move even if it needs to be done.  I think he's perfectly happy just being in the hunt every season.

[BADOLBILZ]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think the point you responded to is that "it could be worse."

 

 

It literally was.    That's it.

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Edmunds is squashing the doubters this season and I'm so glad to see it. But his sideline chatter does not fire me up, lol. (If this clip is emblematic of how he tries to hype up teammates).

[Process]

17 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

Edmunds is squashing the doubters this season and I'm so glad to see it. But his sideline chatter does not fire me up, lol. (If this clip is emblematic of how he tries to hype up teammates).

He's got to work on his face. Dude looks like he's giggling.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

5 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

The Steelers are extremely well coached. Much better than the Bills.  This game is not a gimme. My biggest concern is overlooking this game because of the Chiefs the following week.  I think people are going to realize we have flaws that the injuries and weather excuses have been covering.

 

1) We can't run the ball   2) We lack consistency.   This is the game to get on track.  

 

#1 is true

 

#2 is only true of the offense, the defense has been consistently great

 

The offense has had trouble putting up points in the last two games in tough road environments. But I think they will regain a lot of their form finally coming back home for only their second home game of the season. Also, despite the offensive struggles in the last two road games they put up 500 yards of offense in a loss and scored two TD's and two FG's on their final 5 possessions against the Ravens. 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The point is that the Eagles have defied the idiots who believe that the success of coaching hires is random and therefore you shouldn't fire one if he has had some success.

 

Getting AJ Brown was a great, aggressive move though.   Sign me up for having two #1 receivers.   If the Bills had that they'd be 4-0 with a bullet right now.    

Davis is playing hurt. A healthy Davis is a very formidable 1-2 punch. 

[beerme1]

7 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

 

 

 

Fookin A! Love it. Seeing Eddie getting into it. God bless Barkley for this.

[Starr Almighty]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The point is that the Eagles have defied the idiots who believe that the success of coaching hires is random and therefore you shouldn't fire one if he has had some success.

 

Getting AJ Brown was a great, aggressive move though.   Sign me up for having two #1 receivers.   If the Bills had that they'd be 4-0 with a bullet right now.    

The point is the teams they've played are a collective 7-9 and you are making it sound like it's the coach

[syhuang]

 

[Warcodered]

14 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

Weren't we bigger underdogs against the Vikings?

[syhuang]

Just now, Warcodered said:

Weren't we bigger underdogs against the Vikings?

 

That tweet basically says Steelers have never been a 14-point (or more) underdog since merger.

[Big Turk]

Steelers were the only team since the 1970 merger to never be a 14+ point underdog.

 

Until this week.

 

https://twitter.com/DavidPurdum/status/1577018689525673984?s=20&t=DlcXklhImdvmFKvIIrwB1Q

18 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Weren't we bigger underdogs against the Vikings?

 

Yeah 16 or 17 I think

Edited October 4, 2022 by Big Turk

[Richard Noggin]

22 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Steelers were the only team since the 1970 merger to never be a 14+ point underdog.

 

Until this week.

 

https://twitter.com/DavidPurdum/status/1577018689525673984?s=20&t=DlcXklhImdvmFKvIIrwB1Q

 

Yeah 16 or 17 I think

 

Thanks a lot, Vegas.

 

Luckily, the Bills have the organizational quality to overcome this kind of potential motivational deficit. They're a proud group.

[steven50]

I havent seen the Steelers play this year. Is Kenny Pickett a mobile QB? Does he run a lot?

[GETTOTHE50]

we are going to beat the living daylights out of the steelers and i cant wait to watch it. i hate the franchise and their fairweather fans. i hope pickett sucks and they continue to fall into the abyss

[John from Riverside]

10 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

The Steelers are extremely well coached. Much better than the Bills.  This game is not a gimme. My biggest concern is overlooking this game because of the Chiefs the following week.  I think people are going to realize we have flaws that the injuries and weather excuses have been covering.

 

1) We can't run the ball   2) We lack consistency.   This is the game to get on track.  

Yes that’s why Pittsburgh is losing and we are winning because Pitt is so well coached I am convinced that you’re a troll

3 hours ago, syhuang said:

 

It’s because the Steelers are so much better coached don’t you know

[BillAndPhilFan]

I am coming over from the UK for the Steelers game.  My 6th visit to Orchard Park – Bills have won all the previous 5 (Patriots 2011, Jets 2013, Vikings 2014, Broncos 2017, Dolphins 2019). Confident that this will be 6 out of 6 (38-17).

What’s the local weather forecast for the weekend?

[EmotionallyUnstable]

4 hours ago, steven50 said:

I havent seen the Steelers play this year. Is Kenny Pickett a mobile QB? Does he run a lot?

He is no Lamar Jackson. 

 

4.73 at the combine. Around what Allen ran. Yet, he is not a running threat they could lean on. 
 

I would group him in with someone like David Carr or Aaron Rogers regarding his capability and willingness. I don’t expect him to rip off 35 yard runs, but he is capable to extend plays and will keep his eyes down field looking to deliver the ball while on the move. 

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Yes that’s why Pittsburgh is losing and we are winning because Pitt is so well coached I am convinced that you’re a troll

 

It's a very clear troll account. 

[Juice_32]

1 hour ago, BillAndPhilFan said:

I am coming over from the UK for the Steelers game.  My 6th visit to Orchard Park – Bills have won all the previous 5 (Patriots 2011, Jets 2013, Vikings 2014, Broncos 2017, Dolphins 2019). Confident that this will be 6 out of 6 (38-17).

What’s the local weather forecast for the weekend?

 

Please be sure to come to all the playoff games!

[Greg S]

Looks like we are back in blue. Per the uniform gridiron database page the Steelers posted their jerseys for this week. 

 

 

 

 

[boyst]

imagine the steelers playing in miami wearing all of their black?

[eball]

14 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

imagine the steelers playing in miami wearing all of their black?

 

What a mess to clean up that field after everyone melts…

 

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, BillAndPhilFan said:

I am coming over from the UK for the Steelers game.  My 6th visit to Orchard Park – Bills have won all the previous 5 (Patriots 2011, Jets 2013, Vikings 2014, Broncos 2017, Dolphins 2019). Confident that this will be 6 out of 6 (38-17).

What’s the local weather forecast for the weekend?

Nice!!!  Welcome back.

 

Looks like Sunday is high of 57F,  low of 44F and partly sunny

[eball]

14 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

The Steelers are extremely well coached. Much better than the Bills.  This game is not a gimme. My biggest concern is overlooking this game because of the Chiefs the following week.  I think people are going to realize we have flaws that the injuries and weather excuses have been covering.

 

1) We can't run the ball   2) We lack consistency.   This is the game to get on track.  

 

This is comedy gold.  Call Netflix, you need a special.

 

[Fallser]

I'm missing the game Sunday for some Philadelphia Union soccer, I was hesitant to go since it was during the Bills/Steelers but this one is going to be a laugher. Bills 41, Steelers 14. Don't @ me, el futbol es magnifico! 

 

But seriously, Bills win (with injuries) in a landslide. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 hours ago, BillAndPhilFan said:

I am coming over from the UK for the Steelers game.  My 6th visit to Orchard Park – Bills have won all the previous 5 (Patriots 2011, Jets 2013, Vikings 2014, Broncos 2017, Dolphins 2019). Confident that this will be 6 out of 6 (38-17).

What’s the local weather forecast for the weekend?

 

Awesome, BAPF, we could use your mojo, although given your track record I am hoping you will consider going to KC the following week, too!

 

 

[TFBillsfan]

Hopefully, the loss at home last year against the Steelers serves as a vivid reminder the Bills need to be ready to go. If the Bills play to their ability they should win. Control the Steelers running game and pressure Pickett. No gaffes on special teams or gifting Pittsburgh easy points from turnovers. Pitt usually  plays tough D, so the offense needs to execute. BillsMafia should be revved up with only the second home game in 5 weeks.

Hopefully, Jordan P, Ed and Kumerow can get an extra week to get back to 100%. 

 

Lets get the W, come out healthy and move to 4-1.

 

LETS GO BUFFALO!

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

14 hours ago, Bills2022 said:

 

I don't trust our head coach. So yes, I am concerned with every game. Between our loss to the Jaguars last year, our first half against the Bucs, our blowout loss to the Titans at home, and our playoff loss to the Chiefs last year, I have reason to be concerned.  And that doesn't include the wind game against the Pats or the opening loss to the Steelers.  1 or 2 bad games is ok, not 5 or 6 of them. We started again this year with the incomplete games.  Week in and week out this team is not playing up to what it is capable of doing. 

 

 

3-1, top 5 in nearly every category

 

This bills2021 character is here to stir the drink

[wjag]

As someone point out up thread, KR and PR could be an adventure. 

 

Stevenson and Austen? 

 

I'd imagine there will be wind, why, because there is always wind.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

He is no Lamar Jackson. 

 

4.73 at the combine. Around what Allen ran. Yet, he is not a running threat they could lean on. 
 

I would group him in with someone like David Carr or Aaron Rogers regarding his capability and willingness. I don’t expect him to rip off 35 yard runs, but he is capable to extend plays and will keep his eyes down field looking to deliver the ball while on the move. 

I don't think he's ready for the NFL and especially the Bills defense at home. I think he's in for an eye opening experience. 

 

Pre Draft, I never really liked Pickett. He's not terrible but he's not elite either. He was probably more like a 3rd or 4th round worthy selection. However, we all know how QBs get massive pumps up for obvious reasons. The Steelers had to do something because they didn't have anything at QB. They talked themselves into the local kid. 

[aristocrat]

 

[TFBillsfan]

10 minutes ago, wjag said:

As someone point out up thread, KR and PR could be an adventure. 

 

Stevenson and Austen? 

 

I'd imagine there will be wind, why, because there is always wind.

Most likely Shakir for PR and Cook for KR.

[Beck Water]

12 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

They still have a couple good pass rushers and we still have an oline that can be a turnstile at the worst time.  I dont see losing this game though.

 

He isnt as far as we know.  McD wouldnt comment on it last I heard and I havent seen anything saying he was removed from PUP list.

 

And he won't be removed until a week or two after he starts practicing.

45 minutes ago, eball said:

 

This is comedy gold.  Call Netflix, you need a special.

 

 

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