Micah Hyde seeking 2nd opinion on neck injury

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

I feel most of our star players should have been pulled sooner than they were 

 

Before the Milano INT (halfway through the 3rd) the Titans still could have got back into the game.

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I still think we win this game too...but for obvious reasons, the pile up of injuries certainly makes this a more dangerous game.  

 

BUT...there is a reality here about this week, and that is the Fins game is going to be more important than I think some people realize for a week 4 game.  If Miami wins, they go to 3-0 and travel to struggling Cincy next week, a game the Fins would be favored in given how poorly Cincy has played thus far.  We would then be 2-1 and headed to KC for what seems like our toughest game of our whole schedule, and potentially still not a full strength still on defense.  

 

That would put us in the position of facing a potential 2 game deficit after 4 weeks to the Fins in our division.  I still think we beat Miami with the injuries, because like you I like our depth and our ability to disrupt Tua while Allen and the offense should still put up 40+ points.  

 

While all divisional games are important, given the nature of our records and who we play next, this game against Miami is more important than a typical week 4 game.  So going in short handed definitely makes things a little more dicey.  

Next week is the Ravens, then the Steelers, the Chiefs are after that.

[Inigo Montoya]

Three possibilities here;

 

1;  Bills medical staff says everything is looking good, Hyde still having issues

 

2;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde says he feels great and wants to play

 

3;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde doesn't want to play but just wants second opinion

 

I've always thought the Bills have a great medical team and handle injuries and rehab well.  It sure does look like no matter which of the three it is, we're rolling without Hyde against the Phins.  Hope everything checks out ok for him.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Inigo Montoya

[Billever76]

Just now, ColoradoBills said:

 

Before the Milano INT (halfway through the 3rd) the Titans still could have got back into the game.

Not with the way our offense was just killing them....idk I'm not a coach but give the depth guys some experience when your clearly dominating the opposition 

[aristocrat]

Seems likely he's out a while if he's looking for opinions. 

[Southern_Bills]

4 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

I feel most of our star players should have been pulled sooner than they were 

 

Can't argue that, but it's not always that easy. It's pro ball, you generally don't pull starters.

 

When to make that decision is tough, if you pull them early and then get in a dog fight and they have to come back in cold everyone would complain about that too.

[T master]

Rather be safe than sorry & i can't say as i blame him there is life beyond football & no need to spend it disabled or in a wheel chair if it can be avoided plus we want him to come back fully healed for the run to the bowl it's early in the season so lets get them healthy while they can .

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Billever76 said:

Not with the way our offense was just killing them....idk I'm not a coach but give the depth guys some experience when your clearly dominating the opposition 

 

After the Milano TD the offense was pulled and didn't score another point.  We can always second guess, but pulling both O and D starters

halfway through the 3rd quarter (like they did) is an extremely rare occurrence. 

[die hard bills fan]

not good.  probably going to be out for a while.

[Sharky7337]

You don't get a second opinion unless it's pretty significant.

 

Might be two new safeties next year.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Sharky7337

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Three possibilities here;

 

1;  Bills medical staff says everything is looking good, Hyde still having issues

 

2;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde says he feels great and wants to play

 

3;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde doesn't want to play but just wants second opinion

 

I've always thought the Bills have a great medical team and handle injuries and rehab well.  It sure does look like no matter which of the three it is, we're rolling without Hyde against the Phins.  Hope everything checks out ok for him.

 

 

Couldn't there be a 4th

 

Bills say he's fine,  Hyde feels fine but is doing his due diligence because it's a neck injury?

 

The least likely I know but still possible. 

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Next week is the Ravens, then the Steelers, the Chiefs are after that.

 

Sorry I meant the Ravens, but I was just talking about going to the Chiefs game with a friend on the phone and had Chiefs on my mind.  Brain fart, I will edit, good catch.  

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Sorry I meant the Ravens, but I was just talking about going to the Chiefs game with a friend on the phone and had Chiefs on my mind.  Brain fart, I will edit, good catch.  

After their game with the Dolphins I'm not as worried about the Ravens that defense will get cut to pieces by this offense and we've always defended Lamar very well.

[Back2Buff]

The risk of rolling with over 30 safeties.  The main reason why I have zero ambition to sign Hyde or Poyer to extensions. 

[Son of a K-Gun]

9 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

I feel most of our star players should have been pulled sooner than they were 

 

Can't really fault McD for not pulling them sooner...they came out in the 3rd quarter.  Seeing all of the big comebacks in week 2 is a reminder that you can't let up in this league.

[Kmart128]

13 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Three possibilities here;

 

1;  Bills medical staff says everything is looking good, Hyde still having issues

 

2;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde says he feels great and wants to play

 

3;  Bills medical staff says there is a problem, Hyde doesn't want to play but just wants second opinion

 

I've always thought the Bills have a great medical team and handle injuries and rehab well.  It sure does look like no matter which of the three it is, we're rolling without Hyde against the Phins.  Hope everything checks out ok for him.

 

 

Based on fact he isnt practicing im guessing its the 2nd option... bills wont let him play so he is getting a 2nd opinion to show that he can play.

[DCofNC]

Hopefully, it’s a situation where he feels fine and McClappy says he can’t play unless the doctors clear him, the docs aren’t sure and he wants to get his own voice.

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

After their game with the Dolphins I'm not as worried about the Ravens that defense will get cut to pieces by this offense and we've always defended Lamar very well.

 

Yeah I agree, but I do think that both Lamar and the Ravens offense is better this year than before.  Its in Baltimore too, but that D will definitely get carved up by Allen and this offense.  

 

Just a lot of speed back to back weeks while being down a lot of defensive players.  Like you, I am still confident we win both games, but still, we have the tougher opponent in week 4, so I think this Miami game is just of higher importance than a typical week 4 game.  

[GolfandBills]

This doesn’t look good at all.  Never know a player to not get a second opinion unless the 1st one was bad.  

[Draconator]

Can you imagine how this board will implode if Hyde comes back and says he wants Eichel's surgery?

[TFBillsfan]

Mercy, I hope he is going to be okay. No Dane, Micah, Tre and most likely Jordan P. at the minimum vs Miami. Offense is going to need to put up a lot of points on the board to help the D. Hopefully our front seven can put pressure on Tua and force him into a few turnovers.

 

Benford and Elam are going to have to grow up quickly this week!

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

Haven't read the whole thread, but anyone think he might be fishing for someone who will tell him what he wants to hear?

[The Jokeman]

I sure hope this isn't like the Eichel neck injury fiasco. 

1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:

Mercy, I hope he is going to be okay. No Dane, Micah, Tre and most likely Jordan P. at the minimum vs Miami. Offense is going to need to put up a lot of points on the board to help the D. Hopefully our front seven can put pressure on Tua and force him into a few turnovers.

 

Benford and Elam are going to have to grow up quickly this week!

I wonder if we'd start Cam Lewis over Elam. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

🙏 

[sven233]

Ugh.....  Hoping for the best for Hyde.  Usually getting a 2nd opinion means whatever the issue is, it is pretty serious.  Forget this game, I'm worried this could be the end of his season, if not worse.  Obviously, his health is the #1 priority and I hope that he makes a full recovery.

 

That said, with him out, Tre already out, and now Jackson and Poyer not practicing today, what was once the strongest group on our team is now 100% backups and rookies heading into a game against maybe the best WR group we will play all season.  Not ideal to say the least.

[Paup 1995MVP]

25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I still think we win this game too...but for obvious reasons, the pile up of injuries certainly makes this a more dangerous game.  

 

BUT...there is a reality here about this week, and that is the Fins game is going to be more important than I think some people realize for a week 4 game.  If Miami wins, they go to 3-0 and travel to struggling Cincy next week, a game the Fins would be favored in given how poorly Cincy has played thus far.  We would then be 2-1 and headed to Balt for what seems like one of our toughest road games of our whole schedule, and potentially still not a full strength still on defense.  

 

That would put us in the position of facing a potential 2 game deficit after 4 weeks to the Fins in our division.  I still think we beat Miami with the injuries, because like you I like our depth and our ability to disrupt Tua while Allen and the offense should still put up 40+ points.  

 

While all divisional games are important, given the nature of our records and who we play next, this game against Miami is more important than a typical week 4 game.  So going in short handed definitely makes things a little more dicey.  

Its a week 3 game first of all.  And injuries are part of the game.  Tua is still a dink and dunker.  And after beating the tar out of him last year in Miami, (he will remember that) our D line is better this year.  He can't be feeling comfortable going into this weeks game.  The Bills offense can not be stopped.  I don't know if it can even be slowed down.  We may have to win 45-35.  But we are certainly capable of doing that.  

[Jauronimo]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I sure hope this isn't like the Eichel neck injury fiasco. 

I wonder if we'd start Cam Lewis over Elam. 

Its already totally different because Hyde isn't a POS.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Sounds like he's out for the year.

[HOUSE]

The best neck doctors are in Tucson Arizona,  they used to hang hundreds of people there....

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Why do people in this thread keep suggesting that this is a precaution? Much more likely IMO that Bills' doctors told him it's major and he's trying to get a second opinion because he doesn't want to be out for the year.

[Blank Stare]

29 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

 

At this rate we're going to go from him getting a second opinion to us acting like he's on life support in an hour or two.

That’s a tad hyperbolic, no? Especially, from a fan base that witnessed Aaron Williams career being cut short. It’s fair for (some of) us to be concerned about it. I guess you do you though. 🤷‍♂️

[dollars 2 donuts]

The only two things I am focused on right now with Hyde:

 

 

1.  Is his life in jeopardy?

2. How can I help?

 

No one usually asks me for anything around here.  Honestly, if I was more self conscience I would think you guys don't like me, but I know that isn't true.

 

If needed, though, I'm a "Go".  I am just here on standby, ready to do my part.

 

I will be taking a nap, but will check back in a few hours to see what's what.

 

 

 

 

[Lost]

12 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Ugh.....  Hoping for the best for Hyde.  Usually getting a 2nd opinion means whatever the issue is, it is pretty serious.  Forget this game, I'm worried this could be the end of his season, if not worse.  Obviously, his health is the #1 priority and I hope that he makes a full recovery.

 

That said, with him out, Tre already out, and now Jackson and Poyer not practicing today, what was once the strongest group on our team is now 100% backups and rookies heading into a game against maybe the best WR group we will play all season.  Not ideal to say the least.

 

 

Benford and Elam have already proven enough to be bonafide starters.  Damar hamlin looked decent in camp.  Poyer is most likely starting.  Only question marks to me are Siran Neal and or Cam Lewis stepping in as slot corner.   But we turned an undrafted FA in Levi Wallace into a decent starter in this league so I trust our coaching staff to get our backups up to speed.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Lost

[Rc2catch]

2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why do people in this thread keep suggesting that this is a precaution? Much more likely IMO that Bills' doctors told him it's major and he's trying to get a second opinion because he doesn't want to be out for the year.

It’s all speculation right? Just like your statement??? 

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

All this talk about getting more wide receivers or getting OBJ.

 

I never imagined that we could possible find ourselves thin at one of our deepest positions with DBs.

 

Boy.

 

 

[Airseven]

Safe to assume Hyde and Jackson are out. Probably also Phillips with a tricky hamstring. Poyer will likely be questionable but my guess is he plays.

 

Thankfully Oliver should be back. But the secondary is in big trouble.

[seannc]

I sure hope the diagnosis and prognosis is not similar to Eric Wood's.

[Alphadawg7]

3 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Its a week 3 game first of all.  And injuries are part of the game.  Tua is still a dink and dunker.  And after beating the tar out of him last year in Miami, (he will remember that) our D line is better this year.  He can't be feeling comfortable going into this weeks game.  The Bills offense can not be stopped.  I don't know if it can even be slowed down.  We may have to win 45-35.  But we are certainly capable of doing that.  

 

That had already been corrected, and was just a typo.  And again, I have said over and over again I still think we win the game and Allen is who I take in a shootout 100% of the time.  

 

Just pointing out the importance of this game given our schedule ahead.  Next 4 games are @Mia, @Balt, Pitt, @KC.  Miami has Buf, @Cincy, @jets, Minn.  If Miami manages to upset us this week, their next 3 games are all games they can win.  Cincy has looked bad, Jets are the jets, and Minn looked horrific against the Eagles.  Where we have to face 2 of the top AFC teams and offenses on the road in 2 of those next 3 weeks.  

 

And again, I think we can win all those games too, just pointing out their schedule is a bit easier than ours the next few weeks, so I think that makes this game a little more important as we don't want to risk going down multiple games early in the season to a divisional foe.  

 

[Westside]

6 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Why do people in this thread keep suggesting that this is a precaution? Much more likely IMO that Bills' doctors told him it's major and he's trying to get a second opinion because he doesn't want to be out for the year.

If the trainers and drs for the Bills thought it was major, why would they let him go home after the game instead going to the hospital to get it checked out. ?

 

What a bunch of Debbie Downers here. 
 

[Son of a K-Gun]

12 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Ugh.....  Hoping for the best for Hyde.  Usually getting a 2nd opinion means whatever the issue is, it is pretty serious.  Forget this game, I'm worried this could be the end of his season, if not worse.  Obviously, his health is the #1 priority and I hope that he makes a full recovery.

 

That said, with him out, Tre already out, and now Jackson and Poyer not practicing today, what was once the strongest group on our team is now 100% backups and rookies heading into a game against maybe the best WR group we will play all season.  Not ideal to say the least.

 

Obviously not ideal missing all of this talent in the secondary, but the Bills scheme is strong and the coaches will plan around the strengths of who they are able to get out on the field.

 

And poor Taron Johnson, always the forgotten man!  All this talk about all rookies and backups now in the secondary, nobody remembers that the Bills have one of the top nickle corners in the league in their secondary.