Just Jack Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Week 1 - Bills at Rams - Carl Cheffer and crew (Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be working right this year) Last time we had Carl and crew was last season in October at Kansas City, a 38-20 win. They were heavy handed to the Bills, 10p/103yds compared to the Chiefs 7p/55yds. Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs - October 10th, 2021 | Pro-Football-Reference.com Edited September 7, 2022 by Just Jack 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I am still confused why their occupation isn't "NFL referee". 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) The only game Cheffers called for us last year was the away regular season game at KC. Called 10 penalties on us that game. Can't remember any of them being that egregious. Edited September 7, 2022 by H2o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said: I am still confused why their occupation isn't "NFL referee". It’s a side gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I am still confused why their occupation isn't "NFL referee". It's supposed to keep them honest, that being a ref is not their only source of income, so they won't be tempted to take payoffs to make extra money. I started doing this not to really track how they do, but found it interesting seeing what some of their "regular" jobs are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Get ready for laundry to be thrown the rookies way 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 My man 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 So, there are no officials from WNY, very interesting 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 [this is an automated response] ”We’re screwed!!! That officiating team hates the Bills!” 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, Just Jack said: It's supposed to keep them honest, that being a ref is not their only source of income, so they won't be tempted to take payoffs to make extra money. I started doing this not to really track how they do, but found it interesting seeing what some of their "regular" jobs are. Wouldn't it keep them more honest if they relied on it and it paid enough they could not need to work two jobs. They don't have to worry about their livelihood out there now and it shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, eball said: [this is an automated response] ”We’re screwed!!! That officiating team hates the Bills!” Believe me…that’s coming tomorrow night around midnight…win or lose. 😂 Then, rinse and repeat 16 more times……plus the playoffs. Edited September 7, 2022 by LabattBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 They should include another column in that table that shows us which team they have money on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: I am still confused why their occupation isn't "NFL referee". The NFL is a small business and can't afford full time referees, obviously. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 cheffers 2021 crew threw the most flags of any NFL crew - more than shwan Hochuli which is hard to believe... looks like a couple of changes to his crew, rooks, and I dont see them throwing less flags esp at our rookie corners: https://www.nflpenalties.com/all-referees.php?year=2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Believe me…that’s coming tomorrow night around midnight…win or lose. 😂 Then, rinse and repeat 16 more times……plus the playoffs. the shoutbox will be brutal with the refs suck guys..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, H2o said: The only game Cheffers called for us last year was the away regular season game at KC. Called 10 penalties on us that game. Can't remember any of them being that egregious. You don't remember the phantom holding call on Mitch Morse that wiped out a 1st down conversion by Josh? One of the worst calls I've ever seen. I'm trying to find a clip of it online, but the NFL does a great job of scrubbing stuff like that out. The very next play the refs called a weak RTP on the Chiefs when Allen threw an INT. Edit- found a link https://wbuf.com/bills-fans-not-happy-this-penalty-is-taking-spotlight-away-from-huge-win-tweets/?fbclid=IwAR3--oHjPLkD5P2sCgST98_UJtYWC-No640nyJ8JvNi_zfgmxV7ql3yG3bI Edited September 7, 2022 by DabillsDaBillsDaBills adding link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yobogoya! Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: You don't remember the phantom holding call on Mitch Morse that wiped out a 1st down conversion by Josh? One of the worst calls I've ever seen. I'm trying to find a clip of it online, but the NFL does a great job of scrubbing stuff like that out. The very next play the refs called a weak RTP on the Chiefs when Allen threw an INT. I distinctly remember that game was only as "close" as it was because the refs bailed KC out a few times and gave them a mathematical chance to make it interesting near the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 That's an interesting choice for the season opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: You don't remember the phantom holding call on Mitch Morse that wiped out a 1st down conversion by Josh? One of the worst calls I've ever seen. I'm trying to find a clip of it online, but the NFL does a great job of scrubbing stuff like that out. The very next play the refs called a weak RTP on the Chiefs when Allen threw an INT. Edit- found a link https://wbuf.com/bills-fans-not-happy-this-penalty-is-taking-spotlight-away-from-huge-win-tweets/?fbclid=IwAR3--oHjPLkD5P2sCgST98_UJtYWC-No640nyJ8JvNi_zfgmxV7ql3yG3bI No…I don’t remember it. But then again, I tend not to dwell on penalties in a game from the previous season. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Who do I make the check out to? Edited September 7, 2022 by chris heff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Gugny said: It’s a side gig. Lol I thought it was quite obvious that I knew it. I am just questioning whether it makes sense. It sure doesn't to me. All top soccer refereesin Europe are pros. As far as I know NBA referees are pros. I might be missing something but I'd expect NFL referees to be pros too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Just Jack said: Week 1 - Bills at Rams - Carl Cheffer and crew (Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be working right this year) Last time we had Carl and crew was last season in October at Kansas City, a 38-20 win. They were heavy handed to the Bills, 10p/103yds compared to the Chiefs 7p/55yds. Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs - October 10th, 2021 | Pro-Football-Reference.com Our Defense played more aggressive this game and I have it recorded. I fast forwarded it x8 and only stopped when i saw yellow out. we Earned most of those penalties other then a holding call (i think it was called on the wrong player) and an encroachment by our defense... the center flinched. We earned it. Just because a team was handed more flags does not mean they are bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Whether the penalties in the Chiefs game were earned or not, this crew did call the most penalties in the NFL last year. Thats not a sign of competence in my opinion. It is hard to imagine for me why the NFL would put this crew in position to wreck a marquee matchup of potential Super Bowl foes in its opening game of the year. Perhaps they they been coached up, or perhaps we will be quoting Marv Levy after the game that this referee is “an over officious jerk”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Just Jack said: It's supposed to keep them honest, that being a ref is not their only source of income, so they won't be tempted to take payoffs to make extra money. I started doing this not to really track how they do, but found it interesting seeing what some of their "regular" jobs are. Thank you. Every year we get analysts and fans outraged because the refs are nto full time. Boring debate at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Get ready for laundry to be thrown the rookies way Exactly. Especially with emphasis on illegal contact. I hate that rule, specifically the way it has been administered (or not) over the years. There's illegal contact on virtually every red-zone pass play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Just Jack said: Week 1 - Bills at Rams - Carl Cheffer and crew (Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be working right this year) Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs - October 10th, 2021 | Pro-Football-Reference.com yeah, I’ve seen that Some formatting gets stripped out in the pasting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) Cheffers is from the Los Angeles area, shouldn't he be reffing games of teams not from LA ? ... Would the NFL schedule a ref from Buffalo to ref the Bills vs Tenn game next week ? Do you smell what the Chef-fers is cooking ? The Bills have to beat teams so badly the zebras can't affect the outcome. Edited September 8, 2022 by frostbitmic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Get ready for laundry to be thrown the rookies way Give us dirty laundry 🎶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Do we suck again, already? Asking for a friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Lotta sales and money managers...which tracks for the pressure and visibility of the gig. But do we really want the refs to be competitive A-types? It's the old conundrum of whether we should trust those in positions of authority because we've all seen people who seek such authority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 15 hours ago, HOUSE said: So, there are no officials from WNY, very interesting 🤔 Meanwhile the head guy is a California guy… 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/7/2022 at 8:51 AM, Just Jack said: Week 1 - Bills at Rams - Carl Cheffer and crew (Copy/Paste doesn't seem to be working right this year) Last time we had Carl and crew was last season in October at Kansas City, a 38-20 win. They were heavy handed to the Bills, 10p/103yds compared to the Chiefs 7p/55yds. Buffalo Bills at Kansas City Chiefs - October 10th, 2021 | Pro-Football-Reference.com Not sure where you get your list. Wondering who is officiating Titans game. And how many of the side judges are from Nashville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 18, 2022 Author Share Posted September 18, 2022 Week 2 - Titans at Bills We had Shawn Smith and crew twice last year, against the Dolphins in October (W 26-11) and at New England in December (W 33-21). Against the Dolphins, it was pretty even, both teams were on the receiving end of 9 penalties each, the Bills for 80 yards, the Dolphins 58 yards. Miami Dolphins at Buffalo Bills - October 31st, 2021 A few extra "presents" for the Bills on the Christmas weekend game, but still not that many to worry about, Bills were 5p/45yds, Patriots 3p/30yds. Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots - December 26th, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Thank you Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike22nc Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Week 3 - Bills at Dolphins We did not have an Alex Kemp lead crew at all last season, for the last time he did a Bills game, we have to go back to the 2020 season, where he did two bills games... Los Angeles Rams at Buffalo Bills - September 27th, 2020 Buffalo had 5p/55yds and the Rams had 3p/30yds in a 35-32 win. Los Angeles Chargers at Buffalo Bills - November 29th, 2020 Buffalo had 9p/85yds while the Chargers only have 5p/91yds, in a 27-17 win. But he did ref three Miami games last year, against the Colts (L 17-27 (M 5p/32yds, ID 8p/86yds)), at the Jets (W 24-17 (M 8p/62yds, NYJ 7p/48yds)), and against the Pats* (W 33-24 (M 5p/33yds, NE 8p/78yds)) He may be a Bills hater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Week 3 - Bills at Dolphins We did not have an Alex Kemp lead crew at all last season, for the last time he did a Bills game, we have to go back to the 2020 season, where he did two bills games... Los Angeles Rams at Buffalo Bills - September 27th, 2020 Buffalo had 5p/55yds and the Rams had 3p/30yds in a 35-32 win. Los Angeles Chargers at Buffalo Bills - November 29th, 2020 Buffalo had 9p/85yds while the Chargers only have 5p/91yds, in a 27-17 win. But he did ref three Miami games last year, against the Colts (L 17-27 (M 5p/32yds, ID 8p/86yds)), at the Jets (W 24-17 (M 8p/62yds, NYJ 7p/48yds)), and against the Pats* (W 33-24 (M 5p/33yds, NE 8p/78yds)) He may be a Bills hater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Week 3 - Bills at Dolphins We did not have an Alex Kemp lead crew at all last season, for the last time he did a Bills game, we have to go back to the 2020 season, where he did two bills games... Los Angeles Rams at Buffalo Bills - September 27th, 2020 Buffalo had 5p/55yds and the Rams had 3p/30yds in a 35-32 win. Los Angeles Chargers at Buffalo Bills - November 29th, 2020 Buffalo had 9p/85yds while the Chargers only have 5p/91yds, in a 27-17 win. But he did ref three Miami games last year, against the Colts (L 17-27 (M 5p/32yds, ID 8p/86yds)), at the Jets (W 24-17 (M 8p/62yds, NYJ 7p/48yds)), and against the Pats* (W 33-24 (M 5p/33yds, NE 8p/78yds)) He may be a Bills hater. He penalized the Pats more than the Fins. That's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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