Doc Brown Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: You think the Cowboys said "no thanks--we are rolling with our developmental O-line guy who was left on the board:"? 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Might not have just been Dallas Buffalo was worried about. Baltimore could use a CB and Beane might have deemed that 4th rounder less valuable than ensuring he got Elam. Or he was worried someone would leap them for Elam knowing the Bills were in a market for a cb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, TPS said: I'd bet a lot of money that Knox ain't goin nowhere. I hope not. Knox is such a weapon and he's in the upper echelon of TEs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, HurlyBurly51 said: You mean a 4th on a stacked roster? Has it come out definitively that Dallas didn't receive any calls? Either way, if that's your guy and the last 1st round grade you have on your board, I'm certainly OK with Beane's judgment to not risk it and go and secure him. This team, in this window, needed their guy at CB. Last year it was a stacked roster, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I picked Elam in my mock yesterday and got Breece Hall in the second, let’s do it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Booth dropped to the 2nd minimum. Sounds like Elam was the only option. By the way, I’m okay with the trade up. Don’t mess around. I have always wondered if the Bills wanted T. Diggs in ‘20 but gambled he would make it to them and lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Obviously Beane had a better grade than on him than I do. They value physicals and traits over play. I get it. They’ve had lots of success with it. I like elam and think that we can. Make him into a player. I just don’t understand the trade up Exactly how I feel. Fine with the player. Huge need. Trade up made zero sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: -The top IOL were already gone. -There was a huge run on receiver, leaving scraps and mostly 2nd round prospects -RB is never a position the Bills have heavily invested in, and Zack Moss is still under contract (although I think he's garbage). -There are zero 1st round rated TEs this year. Do you think the draft is over? They literally have 6 more picks. This is just a poor take. Beane is using the Green Bay that they use with Aaron Rogers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Hey, real quick, what did the Bills trade to draft Allen? Do you really give a *****? 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Obviously Beane had a better grade than on him than I do. They value physicals and traits over play. I get it. They’ve had lots of success with it. I like elam and think that we can. Make him into a player. I just don’t understand the trade up Didn't he have like the 2nd lowest Passer rating or completion percentage against him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You think the Cowboys said "no thanks--we are rolling with our developmental O-line guy who was left on the board:"? I think you don’t know ***** and I’ll stand by that. It’s just conjecture from you, you really don’t know no matter what you post, others could have been trying to trade with Baltimore also, but in reality you don’t know anything for sure. We got a great player at a position of need but keep crying 👍 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Elam was already gone. Another team could have traded top to 24 before the Bills traded up and took him at 23. 24 was the key number here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: yet Siran Neal, Taran Johnson, Jaquon Johnson, Dane Jackson and Rachad Wildgoose are why the Bills just traded up in a reach for this kid in the 1st..... Siran Neal is quality depth at safety and nickle, Taron Johnson is superb at nickel, Dane Jackson was solid for being a young late round pick, Jaquan Johnson has flashed but is stuck behind two quality starters, Wildgoose was stolen by the Jets. We need to replace Wallace and Tre might not be ready, that’s why we drafted a corner. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 We certainly need another skill player. I remember when everyone wanted the Bills to take Metcalf early, and we waited and came away with Gabe Davis. I trust Beane to find a mid round WR who plays meaningful minutes for us this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Great to lock down CB2. Plus now Dane Jackson becomes a high end CB4. Worth a 4th round pick and it is not close. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, CapeBreton said: I picked Elam in my mock yesterday and got Breece Hall in the second, let’s do it! Lots of options and paths for the Bills to go in now that they're set at CB2. RB is a fun idea, but WR, IOL, even TE are all in play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Can I bring up the fact that I think it’s absurd how nobody has brought up Aiden Hutchinsons mom tonight. My god what a smoke show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 🔥🔥🔥 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Last year it was a stacked roster, yes. Huh? It's no longer a stacked roster? So we needed that 4th to make it so? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Aaronthebaron said: Siran Neal is quality depth at safety and nickle, Taron Johnson is superb at nickel, Dane Jackson was solid for being a young late round pick, Jaquan Johnson has flashed but is stuck behind two quality starters, Wildgoose was stolen by the Jets. We need to replace Wallace and Tre might not be ready, that’s why we drafted a corner. They are all depth guys, hence the move up to pick Elam. Wallace wasn't worth keeping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Can I bring up the fact that I think it’s absurd how nobody has brought up Aiden Hutchinsons mom tonight. My god what a smoke show. Wow. I assume the other blonds were his sisters? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Another team could have traded top to 24 before the Bills traded up and took him at 23. 24 was the key number here... Why would someone who wanted Elam trade up to 24 after the Bills took him at 23? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, muppy said: This was News to me and a VERY interesting bit of info. That clarifies things for me greatly. Beane had this info as well I am certain it factored into his move up decision. I hope Elam isn't too disappointed to not be playing for his dads ex team He was pumped and very excited during his Zoom presser. Said he felt a special connection on his pre-draft visit to Buffalo. Also said he wasn't the first defensive player taken so that is extra motivation for him. Seems like a very levelheaded kid. Beane said Kaiir's personality reminded them of Tre. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said: I think you don’t know ***** and I’ll stand by that. It’s just conjecture from you, you really don’t know no matter what you post, others could have been trying to trade with Baltimore also, but in reality you don’t know anything for sure. We got a great player at a position of need but keep crying 👍 If you've been on this board for more than a day, you should know to have @Mr. WEO. He's a board troll and consistently wrong then when you post one of his hilariously bad takes at him.. he disappears. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, HurlyBurly51 said: Huh? It's no longer a stacked roster? So we needed that 4th to make it so? Losing this 4th is dangerous. Beane is really mortgaging the future. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecmic82 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I think the Titans could’ve been the third team vying for one of the two cornerbacks. Would explain the Chiefs move, and the Titans’ subsequent trade back following the Bills pick. The Titans have two 4th round picks, neither better than the Bills though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Beane is using the Green Bay that they use with Aaron Rogers I know what you're trying to say, but re-read that sentence and tell me it makes sense. Beane used the 2020 first round pick to get Diggs, so you're objectively wrong about that. Green Bay hasn't hit really on any WR draft picks, we have with Davis. We've signed decent FA depth historically as well, while Green Bay has certainly had more trouble than this. It sounds like to me that you're having a tantrum instead of thinking about this logically. 2 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, Kingston Bills Fan said: Still makes zero sense to throw away a pick no matter how you try to rationalize it I question the move down for a 4th. But why do you say he "threw it away? You KNOW 100% there is no team that was looking to draft ahead of the Bills with CB needs? I'm guessing if teams were making calls, Beane knew it. So instead of saying "he threw it away", you might instead say "he used it to procure the one guy left on whom they had a first round grade". It may not have been necessary, but you can't know that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Completely okay with the trade. We don’t know what Dallas was doing or who they were hearing from. And I wouldn’t trust anything Jerry says anyway. Even if we were reasonably confident we could get him at 25, why risk it? Control what you can control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I disagree, every rule benefits the offense in the NFL. I’ll still load up on nukes that can’t be stopped over unproven missile defense systems. This feels like a pick that Dick Jauron, Lovie Smith or the ***** Bears FO makes. So unproven Nukes vs unproven Missile defense systems. That is what the analogy comes too. end of day need a competent Launch Authority and we are Elite there. (JA17) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Malazan said: If you've been on this board for more than a day, you should know to have @Mr. WEO. He's a board troll and consistently wrong then when you post one of his hilariously bad takes at him.. he disappears. 5 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: I think you don’t know ***** and I’ll stand by that. It’s just conjecture from you, you really don’t know no matter what you post, others could have been trying to trade with Baltimore also, but in reality you don’t know anything for sure. We got a great player at a position of need but keep crying 👍 Y'all need to keep the personal nonsense out of this thread. People are coming in here to learn about our new corner, not to read that clutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Simon said: Cuz they gave up a guy that had about a 25% chance of even making this team? C'mon now. It's unusual for a 4th rounder to not make a roster.......ANY roster......it's a valuable pick. See Gabe Davis and Taron Johnson.......only 4th round picks they've made under Beane. It doesn't make the draft a disaster but in the decade of drafts prior to this one....... the Bills have traded away A LOT of their 4th round picks..........but when they used them more often than not they drafted starters like Gabe and Taron and Nigel Bradham and D'Norris (the finkasaurus) Searcy. Plus that LSU corner Ron Brooks, who was quite a good player for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: yet they didn't. No offers is the only explanation. Or, maybe they got an offer(s) but didn't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Do you want me to go over this again? They have a starting guard on a 1 year contract…they have a starting receiver on a 1 year contract…they have no rb under contract after this year…they have no TE under contract after this year…🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Well it is a good thing those players are all under contract right. And that the NFL doesn’t say you cannot add players ever again so once contracts expire you cannot backfill. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Mel Kiper nailed our pick. Mel also nailed the Josh Allen pick in 2018...when nearly everyone was saying that Josh Rosen was the better prospect. If some think the complaining about this pick and giving up a 4th is bad. Go back and look at that 2018 Josh Allen thread. The bleating was biblical. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: He was pumped and very excited during his Zoom presser. Said he felt a special connection on his pre-draft visit to Buffalo. Also said he wasn't the first defensive player taken so that is extra motivation for him. Seems like a very levelheaded kid. Beane said Kaiir's personality reminded them of Tre. let me put a PS: If MY kid were drafted in the first round by ANY team I doubt my first or even 2nd reaction would be regret over for he not playing for my ex team. Dad is surely going to be outfitted in BILLS colors and it will be with total pleasure and pride very very soon!~!~!!!!! and Kaiir too, what an honor, he gets it. GO BILLS Edited April 29, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) Sanity prevails. Excellent speed too. I read that he needs a little coaching up, but he's coming to DB University. Elite athletic skills. Now OL and RB and a WR on day, I hope. I predict we draft a punter on day 3. We also need a Sam LB, but that's not urgent. I was expecting Booth, but I trust OBD on this pick. Edited April 29, 2022 by GreggTX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: C'mon now. It's unusual for a 4th rounder to not make a roster.......ANY roster......it's a valuable pick. I was being a smartass, but I would guess that a 4th rounder at that camp may well be fighting for a practice squad spot this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Ecmic82 said: I think the Titans could’ve been the third team vying for one of the two cornerbacks. Would explain the Chiefs move, and the Titans’ subsequent trade back following the Bills pick. The Titans have two 4th round picks, neither better than the Bills though. Good take. Some people here are only focused on Dallas as the team we jumped in front of, but that’s myopic at best. These GMs aren’t shy about telling each other who’s calling who with what offers. Beane may or may not have been concerned with Dallas, but there were other teams on the phone with the Ravens inquiring about pick 23 I guarantee it. And I think your hunch about the Titans is spot on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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