HappyDays Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: We traded up for him, 1 pick away and Booth and Gordon on the board. LOL. That happened.. and now the jets gets Johnson. Jets killed it. Luckily we have 17 Booth has medical concerns. Gordon is all athleticism, not a lot of instincts. The Bills have very specific traits they look for in their CBs - length and zone instincts. Elam has very good athleticism too, not elite but better than what we've had at that position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Plus Gator Corners never pan out in NFL. But then again can’t question McD when it comes to DB ever! Not recently but when they sign Haden he’ll have a Gator vet to learn from. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Dean said: I believe they wanted Elam and liked Booth. The only thing I question is trading a 4th to move down two spots. But I imaging Beane can get a pick back later in the draft by trading down. they are a point where not all picks make the team. last season I think 2 picks on PS got plucked. plan on 1st. 2nd, and 3rd making team. thry have one roster WC spot for a surprise prospect ( Stephenson got this slot last year). there is no difference in expectation of a late 4th vs 5 th or 6 th on chances to make a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: We traded up for him, 1 pick away and Booth and Gordon on the board. LOL. That happened.. and now the jets gets Johnson. Jets killed it. Luckily we have 17 Whether you agree with Beane or not, he just said in his interview that Elam was the last player on the Bills' board with a 1st round grade. They did not have a 1st round grade on Booth or Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloFan68 said: It is still so nice and refreshing to have management that can actually draft with some common since and not make those bonehead decisions we've dealt with in the past. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! Clearly biggest area of need at the moment. A top 5 corner by most any measure. Avoided T-Rex Arms McDuffie, and Booth must have looked bad in medicals or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Man hopefully Josh gets some help in round 2 or 3 cause after this season we are really thin at the skill positions Define thin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: very true we do, but that begs the question did we need to trade up or could we have taken Booth or Gordon? Hopefully Elam is that much better. We just heard that Elam was the last guy on Beane's board with a 1st round grade. That tells you everything. The 4th round pick on the roster is inconsequential 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: We traded up for him, 1 pick away and Booth and Gordon on the board. LOL. That happened.. and now the jets gets Johnson. Jets killed it. Luckily we have 17 Beane obviously had him rated higher and was trying to keep him away from Dallas I am a Booth and Gordon stan....but who am I to question McDermott on DB's......maybe he wanted a 4.38 big physical corner....maybe he was just following his board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I'm stoked about this pick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: very true we do, but that begs the question did we need to trade up or could we have taken Booth or Gordon? Hopefully Elam is that much better. They didn’t have 1st round grades on the other CBs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: Who is not a first round pick who we scouted and drafted but a veteran who cost us a pick. Yep. But, net, we spent a 1st round pick on offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: They didn’t have 1st round grades on the other CBs. I bet Booth had really bad medicals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JROC INTEL Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Love the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Fills our biggest need at a position that our head coach happens to be most knowledgeable about so I'm happy with the pick and the trade up. The only strange thing to me is how long they were on the clock after the trade. Could mean nothing but I wonder if they were still debating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: I bet Booth had really bad medicals. Their were some reports about degenerative knees I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, djp14150 said: they are a point where not all picks make the team. last season I think 2 picks on PS got plucked. plan on 1st. 2nd, and 3rd making team. thry have one roster WC spot for a surprise prospect ( Stephenson got this slot last year). there is no difference in expectation of a late 4th vs 5 th or 6 th on chances to make a team. Agree could see the Bills trade up in the 2nd and package some late round picks to get their guy again if they feel the need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Nole Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: why? that’s unreal. ACC D player of year. Good against run and pass. If beane is being truthful about no first rd grade on johnson - then their scouts stopped scouting the noles in august - because johnson single handily kept the noles in games they had no business being in. i’m not anti cb/elam - but johnson is better than rousseau, basham, epenesa and lawson right now. would rather have him and have taken a cb in rd 2 - i think their are players closer to elam than johnson still left. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I love the pick. I personally had it Booth, Elam, McDuffie…but would have been happy with either of the 3. You don’t doubt MCD when it comes to DBs. Giving up a 4th? Meh. Don’t mind it. We don’t have many holes, nor is a 4th round pick reliable to fill any of them. If you love a CB, and you NEED a CB, you give up that pick. No questions asked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: I bet Booth had really bad medicals. Most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, wppete said: Looks big, fast, long arms, plays the ball well, and good hands. He should be a great corner in this D. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Love the player. Great job - they knew Dallas wanted him. Dallas should probably stop putting their draft board on the internet. Jerruh is slow to figure out others might peek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said: Define thin? No rb under contract after this year…no te under contract after this year…Crowder is on a 1 year deal..Saffold is only here for 1 year…get the idea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Plus Gator Corners never pan out in NFL. But then again can’t question McD when it comes to DB ever! Joe Haden Janoris Jenkins 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Once and for all, we know that Beane did NOT have a first round grade on Breece Hall. Just sayin'. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, LEBills said: no I’m not, he was not a draft pick and the first pick that year was AJ Epenesa Very happy with Elam! The Bills definitely skew defense with their first picks though I agree about the second part. I hope we spend one of the next 2 picks for the OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, LEBills said: Josh is the only first round offensive pick since McDermott got here (and that year he still got Tremaine in Round 1). Not necessarily a bad thing but remember when we are speculating next year lol They also traded a 1st for a WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: The "don't draft a RB in the first round" crowd just blew a major load 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I did not see the terms of the trade, so I went through Draft Tek's running 7 round computer projection of the draft that is updated after every pick. I don't know if there are any future implications for the trade, but in the latest simulation, Buffalo has no 4th round pick. The Bills appear to have given of a 4th round pick to move up. I don't know whether or not Buffalo might get some latte round throw in pick in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Logic said: Once and for all, we know that Beane did NOT have a first round grade on Breece Hall. Just sayin'. I tried telling them before the draft but they wouldn't listen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: We just heard that Elam was the last guy on Beane's board with a 1st round grade. That tells you everything. The 4th round pick on the roster is inconsequential I just don’t see it as him that much better, but I hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: It’s interesting Beane didn’t have a first round grade on Jermaine Johnson, Booth, or Lloyd. I’m also surprised he’d admit that. Let’s hope his grading system proves correct this time, some of his early picks in years past have left a lot to be desired. Beane hasn’t been afraid to say things like that to prove his point. Beane don’t mess around - they wanted Elam and made the deal to get him. He is making that clear to the media and fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Whether you agree with Beane or not, he just said in his interview that Elam was the last player on the Bills' board with a 1st round grade. They did not have a 1st round grade on Booth or Gordon. i mean, you don’t have to trust his word- he traded up saying it loud and clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: No rb under contract after this year…no te under contract after this year…Crowder is on a 1 year deal..Saffold is only here for 1 year…get the idea? So next year? I didn't know we worry about next year already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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78thealltimegreat Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Billzgobowlin said: So next year? I didn't know we worry about next year already. You will come come free agency 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Logic said: I won't pretend that Elam was my top choice, and I won't pretend that I've watched a bunch of his tape. Here's what I know: The Bills needed a cornerback, clearly wanted to get faster and more athletic at the position (as evidenced by letting Wallace walk), and just took a kid that's 6'1" and runs a 4.39. Considering how much McDermott and Frazier have gotten out of VASTLY less talented corner prospects, I have all the faith in the world that they'll coach Elam up into being a stud. The Bills' top need by far was a cornerback. They got one, and he's incredibly long and athletic. Hard to be too upset tonight (though I'm sure some here will still find a way!) None of us have to lose sleep at night thinking about what the bills are gonna do at CB. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: No rb under contract after this year…no te under contract after this year…Crowder is on a 1 year deal..Saffold is only here for 1 year…get the idea? starting to reach further out for worries - much further good sign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Johnson still there... There are obviously some undisclosed red flags with him? Cause he's dropping like crazy Not really undisclosed. Character concerns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: We traded up for him, 1 pick away and Booth and Gordon on the board. LOL. That happened.. and now the jets gets Johnson. Jets killed it. Luckily we have 17 But if McDermott and the scouts rated Elam higher than Booth, why not give up a 4th to get him? This team is close, very close. Giving up a 4th will not hurt as much as grabbing your guy at CB can help. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJauronClap Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: if factoring in need I get it, so not a best player board. Why was he not the best player. Was tre viewed as the bpa at 27? Let it play out cause you never know he could be the bpa mid way through the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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