Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Not familiar with this Twitter account, but just saw this: Update: Von said it in his press conference, so confirmed he said this. Edited April 20, 2022 by Alphadawg7 6 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 A starting CB is our biggest need. that is all. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Not familiar with this Twitter account, but just saw this: Did they play together prior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Did they play together prior? Dont think so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Von mentioned it in his press conference today 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 They were playing golf a few days back....right Honestly I have been waiting for news to pop in that Haden got signed for like two weeks now. Would feel MUCH better about this secondary if that happened....then you have Tre, Haden, Dane, and a draft pick when Tre gets back. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Do the Bills have the money to make this happen? I know teams work around the cap all the time but Beane did spend a ton of money this offseason already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: Do the Bills have the money to make this happen? I know teams work around the cap all the time but Beane did spend a ton of money this offseason already. You question the abilities of a great Wizard? 3 2 19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Haden is 33 and coming off the worst statistical season of his career where he still missed 6 games. QBs posted a 100+ QB rating going against him and missed tackles were a big issue. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Did they play together prior? Maybe in a Pro Bowl. Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: Haden is 33 and coming off the worst statistical season of his career where he still missed 6 games. QBs posted a 100+ QB rating going against him and missed tackles were a big issue. Personally I'd prefer if we signed Xavier Rhodes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They were playing golf a few days back....right Honestly I have been waiting for news to pop in that Haden got signed for like two weeks now. Would feel MUCH better about this secondary if that happened....then you have Tre, Haden, Dane, and a draft pick when Tre gets back. Then we could really load up the offense this draft! Gonna be a fun year man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, The Jokeman said: Maybe in a Pro Bowl. Personally I'd prefer if we signed Xavier Rhodes. AJ Bouye is out there still too, but I fully expect us to run with Dane and a rookie CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: You question the abilities of a great Wizard? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Haden is 33 and coming off the worst statistical season of his career where he still missed 6 games. QBs posted a 100+ QB rating going against him and missed tackles were a big issue. Yikes, was not aware it was that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They were playing golf a few days back....right Honestly I have been waiting for news to pop in that Haden got signed for like two weeks now. Would feel MUCH better about this secondary if that happened....then you have Tre, Haden, Dane, and a draft pick when Tre gets back. McD will officially have a CB type then. Guys w/ long “a” sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Bring him on an incentive loaded, short term deal. The guy still very good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: They were playing golf a few days back....right Honestly I have been waiting for news to pop in that Haden got signed for like two weeks now. Would feel MUCH better about this secondary if that happened....then you have Tre, Haden, Dane, and a draft pick when Tre gets back. I'm surprised too why it's taking so long to sign Haden? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 He's terrible. Honestly think they should look elsewhere. I know the pickins are slim, but ehhh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'm surprised too why it's taking so long to sign Haden? From Beane's press conference he apparently didn't coordinate with him on the recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: You question the abilities of a great Wizard? His confidence hang like sleeve of wizard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 We’re drafting one guys. We would’ve picked up a guy by now. Maybe if we can’t what we want after the draft, but it’s dead waters until after the draft. Just my take. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Not familiar with this Twitter account, but just saw this: Update: Von said it in his press conference, so confirmed he said this. Get er dun Buddy!!….I meant Von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'm surprised too why it's taking so long to sign Haden? Beane prob watched him play last year and is offering vet min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Per Paul Schwartz's( covers the Giants for the New York Post) twitter account today Schoen is receiving calls about James Bradberry. I wonder if Beane is one of those calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Still hoping the Bills find a way to get Bradberry. Much rather have him than Haden (at this point in his career). Bradberry had a bit of a down year last year but in 2020 he was a top 5-10 CB in the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 For vet minimum then ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Would love to "Unchain" "Von Haden" on opposing offenses next season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Haden is 33 and coming off the worst statistical season of his career where he still missed 6 games. QBs posted a 100+ QB rating going against him and missed tackles were a big issue. And Kyle Fuller is coming off a year where he was benched for poor performance: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/22/after-high-profile-signing-broncos-have-benched-kyle-fuller/ Everyone that's still out there is out there for a reason. To an extent, I understand having some concern with starting a Rookie who may (or may not) take a little time to get his sea legs under him, if you will. But I vehemently disagree with the notion of many that signing and starting one of these guys is a necessity and would definitively put us in a much better position than starting a Rookie ever possibly could. 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: We’re drafting one guys. We would’ve picked up a guy by now. Maybe if we can’t what we want after the draft, but it’s dead waters until after the draft. Just my take. Exactly this. Logic says that if they viewed starting a veteran at CB as an absolute necessity, we would have attacked it like we attacked other positions in FA. We would not have let the well almost completely dry up and go into the Draft with a hole there. I believe we will sign a veteran late in the Offseason to provide depth and added help with Tre out for a bit to start the season. But that will be in conjunction with a 1st or 2nd Round Draft Pick. None of these guys available are anything more than a 1 year band aid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Signing Haden at this point in his career would feel a lot like when we signed Josh Norman. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Here’s the thing, both Haden and Bradberry had down years, but they have long arms. So…. But anyway, one costs nothing and one costs a lot. Bradberry is way better than Haden at this point, but not like 10 million better. To me, the middle ground is Kyle Fuller. Edited April 20, 2022 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Exactly this. Logic says that if they viewed starting a veteran at CB as an absolute necessity, we would have attacked it like we attacked other positions in FA. We would not have let the well almost completely dry up and go into the Draft with a hole there. Logic doesn't say you approach every position the same. The FO could want a cheap veteran CB. You don't attack with that mindset, you wait. The well is not almost completely dry, there are plenty out there, they just may be waiting it out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: Logic doesn't say you approach every position the same. The FO could want a cheap veteran CB. You don't attack with that mindset, you wait. The well is not almost completely dry, there are plenty out there, they just may be waiting it out. What's plenty? As stated in my post, Haden's coming off his worst statistical year. Fuller's coming off a season where he was benched. Bryce Callahan started just 6 games last season and is more of a Nickel CB than an outside guy. I don't know how it's possible after watching what was done to our Secondary by the Chiefs that Beane would not only not be looking for someone who could be an upgrade from Levi Wallace, but value the position even less by waiting and taking just whatever journeyman is left over at the end of FA for whatever we have left. I do believe we will sign one of those guys. But there's no way in my mind that they think that's the definitive answer and they're cool with just that. Edited April 20, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Maybe in a Pro Bowl. Personally I'd prefer if we signed Xavier Rhodes. Agree. X had a decent season and shouldn't break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Dane is not happy with you guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Beane prob watched him play last year and is offering vet min Maybe telling Von to raise his standards? Only so much room for old guys! . 2 minutes ago, without a drought said: Dane is not happy with you guys. Dane needs to know his place! Edited April 20, 2022 by Augie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: But I vehemently disagree with the notion of many that signing and starting one of these guys is a necessity and would definitively put us in a much better position than starting a Rookie ever possibly could. To me, it probably depends on the veteran and the rookie. I agree that Joe Haden, Kyle Fuller, etc. aren't what they used to be. But exactly how much have they fallen off? These are vets with plenty of starting experience in the NFL. Can their production truly be replaced by a rookie on Day 1? We probably aren't looking at adding Sauce Gardner or Derek Stingley. Probably not Trent McDuffie or Andrew Booth Jr. either. What if the draft doesn't fall our way, and the best/most pro-ready CBs aren't available when we pick? What if we can't get a corner until Round 3 or 4? Will that guy be ready to play? 26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Exactly this. Logic says that if they viewed starting a veteran at CB as an absolute necessity, we would have attacked it like we attacked other positions in FA. We would not have let the well almost completely dry up and go into the Draft with a hole there. I trust Beane. But he's not infallible. Hopefully he's got a plan. Because that position looks like a Week 1 (and probably longer) liability to everyone outside the organization. 26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I believe we will sign a veteran late in the Offseason to provide depth and added help with Tre out for a bit to start the season. But that will be in conjunction with a 1st or 2nd Round Draft Pick. None of these guys available are anything more than a 1 year band aid. A one-year band-aid is enough. We realistically just need someone that won't get picked-on and destroyed while Tre White is rehabbing. Most of us are hoping to sign someone before Draft Day, because it drastically opens up our board in Rounds 1-2. It still could happen. Or it could be like you say, and be a training camp/preseason add. My biggest concern is that we drop 1-2 winnable games early in the season, due to the hole at corner. And that ultimately costs us homefield (like it did last season). Homefield could be absolutely huge this season in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Joe Haden should retire. He's still way better than Dane Jackson, but I don't care if neither of them play for us. This just shows how bad our CB situation really is. The right side of our OL is just as bad. I don't see how we can say we are approaching this draft without needs. A WR, LB, TE, DT or RB at 25 is a mistake that will cost us. I'd trade a 3rd for Bradberry in a heartbeat, but can we afford him? Does Beane have that much magic? I'll be singing his praises if he pulls that move off. Edited April 20, 2022 by GreggTX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: Per Paul Schwartz's( covers the Giants for the New York Post) twitter account today Schoen is receiving calls about James Bradberry. I wonder if Beane is one of those calls. I read on CBS the Chiefs were one, and the going rate for Bradberry is a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: What's plenty? I don't know how it's possible after watching what was done to our Secondary by the Chiefs I do believe we will sign one of those guys. But there's no way in my mind that they think that's the definitive answer and they're cool with just that. Plenty is: Haden/Fuller/Buoye/Callahan/Harris/Rhodes Tre didn't play against the Chiefs Maybe the answer is Tre and Dane, with a short term vet CB, and groom another CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: We’re drafting one guys. We would’ve picked up a guy by now. Maybe if we can’t what we want after the draft, but it’s dead waters until after the draft. Just my take. You’re very likely correct with your opinion, that’s pretty much how I see it as well. Go Bills!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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