FireChans Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Yeah because he spent a first round pick on Ed Oliver.. a first round pick on Gregg.. a second round pick on boogie.. and another second round pick on AJ I think he is trying to solve it via the draft Whether it works out in the Long haul is up in the air but he certainly has thrown Capital at it Counterpoint, Boogie and AJ suck and shouldn’t hold us back from getting better. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Chargers will add Jordan Davis too in the draft to clog the middle. With Mack and Bosa off the edges, that’s scary. Too bad we have Hughes and Addison crawling off the edges slowly. I still think Chandler Jones will be signed by us. Addison & Hughes will be gone. Jones & Groot on the outside with AJE & Boogie as depth. The question remains who our 1T will be? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The "massive" Rapoport is referring to is the player, not the compensation right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: Chargers will add Jordan Davis too in the draft to clog the middle. With Mack and Bosa off the edges, that’s scary. Too bad we have Hughes and Addison crawling off the edges slowly. This painted a picture of two old guys with Walkers trying to take on right and left tackles. I chuckled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 can easy dump him . Makes this looks better for LAC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: That contract is fine for year 1, but gets pretty ugly for a guy who’s been struggling to stay on the field for the next 2 years. I would love him here, but I see why he went “cheap”. Bears have a defensive HC and gave him away. The chargers had the worst Defenses in the league last year and had to do something that GM is on last legs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Good for SD, they need someone to chase Wilson and Mahomes around. Hopefully the AFC West will wear itself out. The Bills are gonna need that, because they are run like a used car dealership. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 How’s Mack been the past two years? I loved him coming out, and a UB guy, but is he worth the contract? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: Counterpoint, Boogie and AJ suck and shouldn’t hold us back from getting better. You certainly cannot judge any rookie from their first year let alone somebody like boogie Lorenzo Alexander wasn't a productive defensive player until he was 30 years old.. and he turned out pretty good Players develop at different rates judging somebody after one year is ludicrous 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Seems like an awful big cap hit for my tastes. Especially a declining player. Edited March 10, 2022 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metbill Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) I am sure we will sit tight and waste another pick on an average at best D-lineman who will never materialize. I would like for us to really address a need for once like we did QB. Do whatever it takes to get a home run at RB or a complete disruptor on D. It would be nice to have a piece added. I do not think we are good enough as the roster sits now to get over the hump next year. However I would not want Mack for that amount and current contract. Edited March 10, 2022 by metbill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, H2o said: The AFC West is stacked. The Raiders aren't a bad team and they're in the basement after this. The Chiefs are the Chiefs. The Chargers on the come up. Denver on the come up. Each one of them will likely have at least 3 losses within their own division alone. 7th Seed And Home field meaning less and less plays key factors into all of this going forward. Just Get In and be as Hot/Healthy as possible. Edited March 10, 2022 by RalphWilson'sNewWar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: Beane will make us all forget about this next week when he signs Chandler Jones Sign Chandler Jones or trade for Danielle Hunter. Those are the moves that would make me okay with passing up on Mack. If we don't add an impact edge rusher the offseason is a failure. 2 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: can easy dump him . Makes this looks better for LAC Oh wow I didn't realize that the Chargers are only on the hook for $17 mil of his $30 mil cap hit. That makes our lack of interest more glaring IF we don't make a comparable move. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Trade Edmunds! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 BS Beane. Absolutely BS. How do you let this happen under your watch. Are you even trying? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Lorenzo Alexander wasn't a productive defensive player until he was 30 years old.. and he turned out pretty good The good news is Basham was a 24 year old rookie.............so that breakout age 30 season is right around the corner! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Virgil said: How’s Mack been the past two years? I loved him coming out, and a UB guy, but is he worth the contract? If you take away last year in which he was injured most the season and his rookie year, his career low in sacks is 8.5 in a single season. And even that would make him the leader on this dline which has been nothing but a bunch of guys average 4-6 sacks a year under McDermott. Like myself and others have said, it's time for Beane to give up much more than he is going to be comfortable with in terms of picks/money/etc to make a splash and find a guy like this. But if we could have made this same deal for mack and Beane passed it raises serious red flags in terms of what his plan is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: The good news is Basham was a 24 year old rookie.............so that breakout age 30 season is right around the corner! Touche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Wow, they essentially left him at the curb… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: BS Beane. Absolutely BS. How do you let this happen under your watch. Are you even trying? He doesn’t use credit cards, remember? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, dneveu said: 17.5M cap hit, and then in 2023 and 2024 the cap hits jump to 22.7M. I know you can re-structure but that requires void years or extensions... and he's already 31 coming off a foot injury. With Mack and Bosa they should have one of the most formidable pass rushes in the league. We'll see how they address a pretty mediocre rush defense though, and honestly their secondary isn't anything to write home about. And his stats have dropped off the past couple of years. I want an elite pass rusher too, but I'm not sure Mack is the one we want. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: We don't have the 24 million in cap space to have taken it on right now. It's as simple as that. Sucks we could have had him if we had the room, but we just don't right now. Again, current salary cap means nothing and Beane can free up boatloads of money at any given moment to accommodate a deal like this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Trade Edmunds! 😉 Bruh that’s not how you hijack a threat, allow me: Extend Edmunds!!! 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 This hurts....like it hurt on draft day getting Watkins AFC is a brutal brutal place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: He doesn’t use credit cards, remember? At some point you have to. Especially given his drafting or FA abilities. Beane signs average to slightly above average players and just rotates them. That isn’t good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Would have had no problem giving that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Not gonna lie.....I wanted him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Something tells me this trade won't look as good in December/January. We will have to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: That’s what I’m saying Where would Beane get the 12 million (?) To pay Mack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Georgie said: Where would Beane get the 12 million (?) To pay Mack? Well for starters, stop paying a lot of money for mediocre linemen just to rotate them for mediocre results. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 One thing ia for certain, the AFC is becoming a much tougher road each and every day…I’m hopeful that we have a big move or two but at the same time worried why going back to last year we didn’t explore a move like this. This is a move of going out and gettting a Difference maker, not just a good JAG. Mack in Buffalo would make a lot of sense and bring some serious excitement. I’d dump those picks in a second. I guess maybe the only good thing is that everything is falling in the West so far.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You certainly cannot judge any rookie from their first year let alone somebody like boogie Lorenzo Alexander wasn't a productive defensive player until he was 30 years old.. and he turned out pretty good Players develop at different rates judging somebody after one year is ludicrous Lorenzo Alexander had one super productive year as a pass rusher and never achieved the same success again. Should we still wait for Cody Ford to develop or should we try to get better at guard? Our Super Bowl window cannot and should not wait for these kids to develop over the course of 4 years. That’s GMing malpractice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Bean has made it very clear by now that he thinks JA and a bunch of role players can win a Championship. It can't. The Rams proved this, the Bucs the year before who with Brady still went out and added key high-production players. Bean is awful. Thanks for getting us here, time for a GM who knows how to construct teams that can actually not blow games on D. 2 5 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Something tells me this trade won't look as good in December/January. We will have to wait and see. something a lot of people said about the Rams trading a bunch last year, esp. with Von Miller and OBJ. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, RyanC883 said: something a lot of people said about the Rams trading a bunch last year, esp. with Von Miller and OBJ. Can’t believe the Rams gave up so much for Matt Stafford! Let Goff develop! 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean has made it very clear by now that he thinks JA and a bunch of role players can win a Championship. It can't. The Rams proved this, the Bucs the year before who with Brady still went out and added key high-production players. Bean is awful. Thanks for getting us here, time for a GM who knows how to construct teams that can actually not blow games on D. The fact that my Beane is sleeping thread is locked for not breaking any forum rules is all you need to know. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: Von Miller is two years older and went more for as a half season rental. I get that it's also a salary dump for the Bears but damn, how did they only get a 2nd. Bears have never been good at acquiring draft picks from trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Von Miller is two years older and went for more as a half season rental. I get that it's also a salary dump for the Bears but damn, how did they only get a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean has made it very clear by now that he thinks JA and a bunch of role players can win a Championship. It can't. The Rams proved this, the Bucs the year before who with Brady still went out and added key high-production players. Bean is awful. Thanks for getting us here, time for a GM who knows how to construct teams that can actually not blow games on D. “Beane is awful”. Lol. No. He might not be doing what you want….but he is far from awful. He may be making a mistake by not going all in (if that happens to be the case). McD made a mistake in the KC game. He’s not awful is he? Your exaggerations are embarrassing regarding the trade, I would’ve done that deal in a heartbeat if I were Beane. Oh well. Hopefully we can get an impact pass rusher without giving up picks. Edited March 10, 2022 by NewEra 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean has made it very clear by now that he thinks JA and a bunch of role players can win a Championship. It can't. The Rams proved this, the Bucs the year before who with Brady still went out and added key high-production players. Bean is awful. Thanks for getting us here, time for a GM who knows how to construct teams that can actually not blow games on D. Free agency hasn't even started yet, lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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