What does Allen work on this summer?

[Chaos]

Josh needs to hone his tackling skills sk he can step in and play MLB when the defense needs to stop another team with 13 second left in a game.  Also his pass defense skills in the event the last play is going to be a Hail Mary for the other team. Finally his punting skills so wE don’t continue to waste a roster spot on a punter. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

21 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

World Peace

Cancer Cure

Turning water into wine..

 

Seriously.. is it possible he can even get better? Lets hope so...

 

Win Superbowls

 

 

[BuffaloBaumer]

The most important thing he needs to work on is whatever new offense is being installed. There will be tons of changes including receivers which is why the coaches losing the Super Bowl this year hurts so much.

[SoMAn]

21 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

His facial hair growth skills, hopefully.

In the facial hair department, he’s Ryan Fitzpatrick compared to Mahomes. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

21 hours ago, stevestojan said:

He’s the best QB we’ve ever had. Period. 
 

My biggest concern would be him thinking he has to work on anything. 

 

Nobody is beyond improvements, sitting on your laurels gets you sitting on the couch.

 

 

[Success]

Is Josh Allen's trajectory unprecedented?

 

I don't even Brady saw such significant increases in the measurables.  But I'm too lazy to look it up.

 

The only thing I know is that he'll be even better next season.

 

 

[SoMAn]

21 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said:

Tired of talking about yesterdays debacle… Every summer the past few years Allen has worked with Palmer on some aspect of his game. Long passes short passes body and foot placement. After watching what Josh has become, what does he still need to work on this off season? Doesn’t seem there is much left to do, he hit long some passes but I guess there is still a little work there, some times he could go to the check down a little quicker, but really what is left to improve on?

Touch passes, putting a little arc on them when necessary, and protecting the ball. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, SoMAn said:

In the facial hair department, he’s Ryan Fitzpatrick compared to Mahomes. 

 

I think it time for fitz to be our backup, would be awesome for him to get a SB ring here.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

The most important thing he needs to work on is whatever new offense is being installed. There will be tons of changes including receivers which is why the coaches losing the Super Bowl this year hurts so much.

 

May not be a new offense if we hire from within. There is talk of Dorsey going to the giants but that is stupid if he does , our organization is much better and our QB is TEN times better. Dorsey would have more success staying here than going there . We could also promote WR coach Chad Hall.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Josh needs to hone his tackling skills sk he can step in and play MLB when the defense needs to stop another team with 13 second left in a game.  Also his pass defense skills in the event the last play is going to be a Hail Mary for the other team. Finally his punting skills so wE don’t continue to waste a roster spot on a punter. 

 

If it were up to me there would be no kicking game, saving 4 roster spots.

 

 

[billsfan89]

I think he still has some things he needs to "iron out" of course at this point it is mostly super small stuff but I think Josh will have to work on the regular season version of himself. Running less so he can unleash the "playoff 2021 Josh" on the league consistently for years to come. That means less "hero ball" in the regular season and more taking what the defense gives him on a consistent basis. 

[BillMafia716ix]

Just learn to kill plays sooner when it’s not there. Pick and choose when to run. Take less hits

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

The most important thing he needs to work on is whatever new offense is being installed. There will be tons of changes including receivers which is why the coaches losing the Super Bowl this year hurts so much.

 

Nah I'm not worried about that even a little bit. Even if a whole new offensive system is installed the growing pains will be long gone by the time the playoffs roll around. As long as Allen is here, the regular season is just for fine tuning the team for the games that matter.

[BearNorth]

Improve the QB sneak behind the left tackle, how to not lose in Jacksonville.

[billsfan714]

Score any game winning points with sub 10 seconds.   That way you take McD and Frazier out of the equation.

[davefan66]

11 hours ago, Brother Hesekiah said:

Tom Brady has worked with a personal throwing coach every offseason for two decades.  It takes constant work not just to get to that highest level, but to stay there.  

Correct.  Don’t want to get complacent.  How many times did Tiger Woods overhaul his swing?  Several times, including when he was one of the best golfers in the world.  The best never relax.

[Teddy KGB]

McDermott’s brain 

[JaCrispy]

How to play on the defensive side of the ball, as well...

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

The real question should be.  How does McDermott get rid of Lesile Frazier?  Change the locks at one bills drive,  Drop him off in the middle of no where, Tell him there is a sale at penny’s something anything because this guy makes Walt Corey, look like Buddy Ryan.

[buffaloboyinATL]

He will spend 2 hours per day flipping coins and trying to predict the outcome. 

[Hebert19]

13 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

So, outside of those things you are pleased with our passing game?

Ha.  Yes.  The patience on screen game is the biggest one for me.  Think Josh rushes and oline doesn't get a chance to set up. 

[KHAN]

The golf analogy is a good one. He should continue to fine tune his throwing to keep it sharp.

 

And continue learning how to read and manipulate defenses. Brady/Manning are good role models here.

 

As much as Josh's angry runs are amazing and inspiring to watch. As he heads in to year 5 he has to start saving the high risk contact for high leverage situations. One bad hit to that shoulder, and it's over.

[Greg S]

2 minutes ago, KHAN said:

The golf analogy is a good one. He should continue to fine tune his throwing to keep it sharp.

 

And continue learning how to read and manipulate defenses. Brady/Manning are good role models here.

 

As much as Josh's angry runs are amazing and inspiring to watch. As he heads in to year 5 he has to start saving the high risk contact for high leverage situations. One bad hit to that shoulder, and it's over.

 

Agree with Josh running. Yes he is a weapon running the ball but I want him to be the QB for the next 12-15 years. Playoffs or big games sure but overall I hope he doesn't run that much. Think of Elway. Early in his career John could run and scramble but as he got older he was a pocket passer and let Davis do all the running. If Singletary isn't the answer then the Bills need to find a "Terrell Davis" to help Allen out.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Screen plays.  Still one of the worst screen teams in execution  in my opinion. 

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

14 hours ago, Chaos said:

Josh needs to hone his tackling skills sk he can step in and play MLB when the defense needs to stop another team with 13 second left in a game.  Also his pass defense skills in the event the last play is going to be a Hail Mary for the other team. Finally his punting skills so wE don’t continue to waste a roster spot on a punter. 

Now that is a good point it worked for Danny White.  I wonder do you risk him getting hurt becoming the punter.

[Solomon Grundy]

His girlfriend 😎. Hourly!!

[4_kidd_4]

Rushing the passer & squib kicks.

[Greg S]

10 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

His girlfriend 😎. Hourly!!

 

LOL. You probably have given the most correct answer in this thread. 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

LOL. You probably have given the most correct answer in this thread. 

That’s what I would do!! Lots of yoga and wrestling 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Solomon Grundy

[BaaadThingsMan]

I'm not sure what he'll work on but I know he will be working because he's never satisfied and is his biggest critic. 

 

One thing I'd like to personally see him do is eliminate the few plays a year he doesn't get rid of the ball on time and gets dragged down 15 yards deep, sometimes resulting in a fumble or interception. 

 

 

 

[Jim Bob]

https://bleav.com/shows/draft-dudes/episodes/jordan-palmer-joins-the-show-to-talk-qbs/

 

Jordan Palmer talked a lot about his work with Allen in this interview last week.

 

Josh has already said that he is heading back into the lab with Palmer this off season. After working last off season on being ready for the last 4 minutes of a playoff game, my guess is that it might be about building more consistency week to week.

 

The Bills could have, and maybe should have, been the #1 seed in the AFC this year. Making sure games like the Jacksonville and Indy games don't happen might be what they look to shore up. 

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, KHAN said:

And continue learning how to read and manipulate defenses. Brady/Manning are good role models here.

 

If I were Josh, I'd go spend two weeks with Payton Manning. I'd trade an hour a day working with his son on throwing mechanics for an hour a day breaking down film with Payton. 

[longtimebillsfan]

4 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

Ha.  Yes.  The patience on screen game is the biggest one for me.  Think Josh rushes and oline doesn't get a chance to set up. 

That is a valid point.

[Mark Vader]

Shaving

[BillsM@fia]

First let me preface this by saying that Josh is absolutely amazing and constantly puts the team on his back.  I have a few things he could work on such as:  

 

-Ball Security

-Situational awareness.  Specifically when in field goal range.  He is improving but still will take a huge sack here or there that knocks us out.

-Taking what the defense gives him.  Check downs.  Another area he has improved, but would like to see more.  

 

The one thing I MOST want to see him improve on is winning from the pocket.  Now he does a damn good job here too but he still runs too much for my liking.  Losing him for the season will feel almost as bad as Sunday.  

 

The biggest difference I see between Mahomes game and Joshs game is Mahomes unmatched arm talent (not only strength).  When Mahomes scampers, there often isn't a soul around or he is able to scurry out of bounds because defenses need to respect the back end so much.  Josh on the other hand is often barreling through defenders and even hurting some haha! As entertaining as it is, I want him healthy.

 

I do believe QBs get better with age, specifically in regard to reading coverages etc..  He improves year after year and I expect him to stay on this trajectory.  This makes me wonder as Daboll is likely to leave, if Josh will be given greater responsibility in the offense such audibling and even calling his own plays.  

[FITZamishRIFLE]

On 1/24/2022 at 7:42 PM, MJS said:

I guess he should work on defense. He could play both sides and truly will this team to victory.

 

With his size he could probably rush the passer or play linebacker...

My wife made a joke during the game about why Josh wasnt out there on defense when we kept missing nearly every tackle.  I think she was serious though

[1ManRaid]

On 1/24/2022 at 10:19 PM, stevestojan said:

He’s the best QB we’ve ever had. Period. 
 

My biggest concern would be him thinking he has to work on anything. 

 

What an incredibly arrogant opinion.  Developing that mindset is when you start to regress.  His biggest strength has been his drive to improve his game.  When you have Allen's gifts, you don't settle for being an "elite"/top 5 QB at the current time, you push to be the undisputed #1, the best the LEAGUE has ever had not just the best the team has had.

[Doc]

Learning to call his own plays.

[starrymessenger]

Love the way his long ball accuracy has shown up. I knew it would. His weaponry is now complete. And he will hone those skills. He’s not done getting better. He’s going to be the consensus best player in the game. Bills need to find him a couple more skill position players, draft or FA.

Edited January 28, 2022 by starrymessenger

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 1/26/2022 at 9:54 AM, Motorin' said:

 

If I were Josh, I'd go spend two weeks with Payton Manning. I'd trade an hour a day working with his son on throwing mechanics for an hour a day breaking down film with Payton. 

 

That's actually not the worst of ideas.  Peyton is the master of details.  Go through all his film from the season and find all his tells.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

On 1/26/2022 at 9:09 AM, Greg S said:

 

Agree with Josh running. Yes he is a weapon running the ball but I want him to be the QB for the next 12-15 years. Playoffs or big games sure but overall I hope he doesn't run that much. Think of Elway. Early in his career John could run and scramble but as he got older he was a pocket passer and let Davis do all the running. If Singletary isn't the answer then the Bills need to find a "Terrell Davis" to help Allen out.

 

The runs to the sidelines or the wide open scrambles aren't so bad, he might need to slide more in non playoff scenarios. He did a decent job protecting himself this year.