Victory Beers 🍺 - Spencer Brown!

[billsbackto81]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

He was God awful today.  But in fairness he shouldn’t have been asked to play LT.

Well, at least he wasn't asked to kick fg's. 

[Paul Costa]

Bills put him in a bad situation today. That being said I can’t remember a O lineman being that bad ever. At any level I have seen. That being said I think this kid is going to be an absolute stud. A fan favorite in the future. A RT version of Gronk. 

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Spencer Brown was not ready to play on left tackle he was doing pretty darn good as a right tackle for us with Williams at guard and they should have left it that way and played Bates

 

 

I'm not sure about "ready" as being the issue...it's a position he hasn't played before and everything is completely opposite on the other side. Flipping sides is a huge deal, not some minor thing...

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

His job was to calm him down, not fire him up.

Why the heck do you people think that ass-chewings actually work on grown men?

Yes, you're right...

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I was disappointed in McDermott's "chat" with him as he pulled him from the game.

He should have chewed his ass off, but didn't.

 

 

 

That's not his style. McD is a players coach. These guys aren't in highschool anymore

 

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

His job was to calm him down, not fire him up.

Why the heck do you people think that ass-chewings actually work on grown men?

 

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

You think he developed that kind of strength and technique playing video games?

That young man has been working his ass off at a full time job for years; damn right he considers himself a grown man.

People that think chewing out men like that is productive are engaging in projection fantasies; I'm glad McDermott is above it.

The simplest answer is just respect and end goal. There’s a lot of HS has-beens on the interwebs that think disrespect is the proper answer to any issues. 
 

At the end of the day, these guys are ago work. This isn’t how you treat coworkers or employees. It shouldn’t be the expected response to somebody you respect. 

29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

So much for Brown at LT it seems. Hopefully he is good enough for RT. 

I would still most likely draft OT in the first round and move Dawkins to LG. However if a C/G falls in the first round I would take him and play him at guard for a year and keep Morse for another year.

Dawkins gives us the flexibility to take the best OL available with our pick. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

You think he developed that kind of strength and technique playing video games?

That young man has been working his ass off at a full time job for years; damn right he considers himself a grown man.

People that think chewing out men like that is productive are engaging in projection fantasies; I'm glad McDermott is above it.

 

This.  Remember Josh Allen getting flagged for "taunting", I think it was the San Francisco game?

McDermott walked up and said "I just came over to tell you, you get another one and you're out of here".  Allen said "Yessir".  McD walked off.

 

Sometimes the calm voice is heard best.

 

39 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

So much for Brown at LT it seems. Hopefully he is good enough for RT. 

I would still most likely draft OT in the first round and move Dawkins to LG. However if a C/G falls in the first round I would take him and play him at guard for a year and keep Morse for another year.

 

What evidence do you have that Dawkins can play LG?

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Is a 22 year old now considered a grown man?

 

Certainly if they are old enough to serve in military.  Some mature faster than others.

[Rubes]

Honestly, I was a little surprised they moved him over to LT. I figured they might keep Brown in the RT spot he's comfortable at, and move Williams over to LT. Williams is not a great LT by any means, but he's played it before, IIRC.

 

But who knows, maybe they were a little worried by a Ford-Brown right side, maybe.

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

 

The simplest answer is just respect and end goal. There’s a lot of HS has-beens on the interwebs that think disrespect is the proper answer to any issues. 
 

At the end of the day, these guys are ago work. This isn’t how you treat coworkers or employees. It shouldn’t be the expected response to somebody you respect. 

Dawkins gives us the flexibility to take the best OL available with our pick. 

Agreed

9 minutes ago, Rubes said:

Honestly, I was a little surprised they moved him over to LT. I figured they might keep Brown in the RT spot he's comfortable at, and move Williams over to LT. Williams is not a great LT by any means, but he's played it before, IIRC.

 

But who knows, maybe they were a little worried by a Ford-Brown right side, maybe.

 

Home game so crowd noise was not a factor. Relatively safe game to give him a shot at LT.  

[Dan Darragh]

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I was disappointed in McDermott's "chat" with him as he pulled him from the game.

He should have chewed his ass off, but didn't.

 

 

 

I disagree with you, but props to you for not writing "should of"

[Bob in STL]

Brown, a rookie, played his first game ever at LT in the NFL with about 10 games of experience.  Never played it before and had only a few days to prepare.  It different than RT, a position he has been working at. 
 

He had a rough day playing against top tier competition.  He said in and the post game interview he was learning on the fly.  Learning things like what moves the DE made base on his stance (2 point or 3 point).  
 

We had another tackle that had a terrible day on his first start.  Howard Ballard, who became a pro bowler, was so bad Jim Kelly chewed him out publicly and didn’t want him starting the next week. 
 

Some of you look for perfection on every play and in every circumstance.  It’s never gonna happen.  
 

Brown will go back to RT and will probably end up one our best lineman someday. 
 

 

[purple haze]

4 hours ago, wppete said:

Love this guys attitude and the nastiness he plays with. He brings an attitude to the Oline. 
 

 

He brought pass rushers constantly running past him and 5 penalties too; and one of those penalties was dumb as #%^*.  Optics don’t mean Jack.

 

I hope Dawkins can play next week and Brown can go back where he belongs for this season anyway.

[nucci]

7 hours ago, wppete said:

Love this guys attitude and the nastiness he plays with. He brings an attitude to the Oline. 
 

 

expect that he played terribly yesterday, sure

[TPS]

Diggs wants to buy him one.

 

[Simon]

7 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

Worked for us in the Marine Corps... Just sayin. 

 

We're talking about grown men, not Marines 

[thronethinker]

Anyone else think there may be fines coming from the league? Grabbing a beer mid game? I mean I’m all for it, but the NFL…

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

He really hurt the team this week with his penalties and McD rightfully sat him down for a Bit. 
 

 

Yeah, he really did.🤦‍♂️ If it weren’t for him, we’d have scored 50 points.. smfh

[GaryPinC]

9 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I was disappointed in McDermott's "chat" with him as he pulled him from the game.

He should have chewed his ass off, but didn't.

 

 

McDermott, more than any coach I can recall, overtly acknowledges using your emotions is a huge part of playing in the NFL.  He encourages appropriate individual expressions of those emotions.  He appropriately handled the situation.

[vincec]

I keep reading that Brown should never have been put at LT, but wasn’t he the Bills “swing tackle” coming out of preseason? It was not a tough choice. He was obviously not ready, but that’s due to an overestimation of his current ability, IMO.

[Agent 91]

9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Is a 22 year old now considered a grown man?

Only when it's not Tremaine

9 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I had no idea why he thought taunting was a good idea after playing the way he did today...granted he had it rough with having to basically play LT with no prior experience, but still...

 

Just had a mental lapse. Looked like there was more to it than a simple taunt. I then they were tangled up and had an exchange before the actual taunt 

[Agent 91]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This.  Remember Josh Allen getting flagged for "taunting", I think it was the San Francisco game?

McDermott walked up and said "I just came over to tell you, you get another one and you're out of here".  Allen said "Yessir".  McD walked off.

 

Sometimes the calm voice is heard best.

 

 

What evidence do you have that Dawkins can play LG?

Think he played LG at Temple 

[stosh64]

9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Is a 22 year old now considered a grown man?

Used to be, not so much anymore...

[JMF2006]

10 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

He really hurt the team this week with his penalties and McD rightfully sat him down for a Bit. 
 

 

 

The guy that King Kong just pancaked punched him so he probably just gave him a loud verbal warning which in turn got him a 15yd flag for USC.

 

A little holding here and there got him a few more flags but not a total disaster at LT in his first start.

 

We need 4 more linemen with his size and attitude and this O would be unstoppable

[bmur66]

Mt. Spencer Brown is going to be a hell of a player for years to come and I’m happy he is a Bill.

[MAJBobby]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

 

You think he developed that kind of strength and technique playing video games?

That young man has been working his ass off at a full time job for years; damn right he considers himself a grown man.

People that think chewing out men like that is productive are engaging in projection fantasies; I'm glad McDermott is above it.

Well he sure didn’t act like a grown man yesterday. He acted like a child. 

7 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Certainly if they are old enough to serve in military.  Some mature faster than others.

Hmmm and yet those Grown Men in the Military get their ass chewed. But I guess we have to coddle NFL players when they are idiots. 

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Yeah, he really did.🤦‍♂️ If it weren’t for him, we’d have scored 50 points.. smfh

Defend him all you want. Because he did some Wrestling celebration. Bottom line he was Horrid 

Edited December 20, 2021 by MAJBobby

[MAJBobby]

14 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

 

The guy that King Kong just pancaked punched him so he probably just gave him a loud verbal warning which in turn got him a 15yd flag for USC.

 

A little holding here and there got him a few more flags but not a total disaster at LT in his first start.

 

We need 4 more linemen with his size and attitude and this O would be unstoppable

A little holding. 5 penalties. He was Trash. He was a turnstile all day. What did you watch?

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, JMF2006 said:

 

The guy that King Kong just pancaked punched him so he probably just gave him a loud verbal warning which in turn got him a 15yd flag for USC.

 

A little holding here and there got him a few more flags but not a total disaster at LT in his first start.

 

We need 4 more linemen with his size and attitude and this O would be unstoppable

He was a total disaster and embarrassed repeatedly by Burns.

[Blainorama5]

Given the position switch he had to make a few hours before the game, I'm kinda amazed at how much grief he's getting.

Switching from one end to the other AIN'T easy with little to no practice time - and Carolina doesn't have a bad D-line at all.   Yes, the taunting penalty was stupid and obviously any o-line penalty always hurts, but I like this kid's attitude a LOT.  He's going to be good for the Bills for years imo.

[Royale with Cheese]

11 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

If you’re not a grown man by 22, you never will be. 

 

When I was 22, I was still doing keg stands, held Tiger Woods Golf Tournaments at my house with 3 active Playstation 2's for like 10 hours, drank Natty Light, washed my underwear in the shower, wore condoms, paid for my McDonalds with quarters/dimes/nickels, barely could sit my backseat because of all the trash and downloaded gay porn on my roommates computer when they were sleeping....turn the volume all the way up and hit play.  

 

I've definitely grown up since then.

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

12 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

He really hurt the team this week with his penalties and McD rightfully sat him down for a Bit. 
 

 

That’s what you get when you drink beer during a game instead of water.

[DasNootz]

I’m afraid the attention he’s gotten as a rookie has gone to his head and he’s turning into a WWE personality (Taylor Lewan?). Hopefully he’ll mature because he has the physical tools to be elite. 

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, DasNootz said:

I’m afraid the attention he’s gotten as a rookie has gone to his head and he’s turning into a WWE personality (Taylor Lewan?). Hopefully he’ll mature because he has the physical tools to be elite. 

 

We need something like that on our offensive line especially.  We aren't mean enough up front.  I want two more Spencer Browns on the interior.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

12 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Is a 22 year old now considered a grown man?

Since we are isolating things based on age and not the person, how many 22 years olds were on the beaches of Normandy? So I guess in your mind 22=old enough to die for a country....not old enough to be treated like an adult.

[DasNootz]

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We need something like that on our offensive line especially.  We aren't mean enough up front.  I want two more Spencer Browns on the interior.  

There’s a difference between being mean/aggressive and being stupid.  30-40 yards in penalties is nearly a full possession difference in a game.  

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, DasNootz said:

There’s a difference between being mean/aggressive and being stupid.  30-40 yards in penalties is nearly a full possession difference in a game.  

 

Definitely agree there.  I want his nastiness but the sense of like a Morse.  

 

Brown might be that early Jerry Hughes where he would make plays but would also kill you with an unsportsmanlike penalty.  

[Jauronimo]

10 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

Worked for us in the Marine Corps... Just sayin. 

Works for inmates too.  Theres a difference in communication styles when delivering orders to people who are owned by the federal government and when trying to get the best performances out of talented young millionaires.

[MAJBobby]

41 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Since we are isolating things based on age and not the person, how many 22 years olds were on the beaches of Normandy? So I guess in your mind 22=old enough to die for a country....not old enough to be treated like an adult.

So ever wear a uniform?  Guess what those that do realize Adults can get their ass chewed. But not here I guess we have to treat “NFL Adults” with cotton Balls. All Rainbows and Unicorns in the talks to them. 

[Thriftygamer83]

13 hours ago, wppete said:

Love this guys attitude and the nastiness he plays with. He brings an attitude to the Oline. 
 

 

they pulled his face mask, held his arms, and tried to chop block him.  All that matters no matter the flags is that Carolina tried to cheat against a rookie.  I don't mind this at all and it's pretty much what Panthers fans needed t see.

[WhoTom]

13 hours ago, Simon said:

 

His job was to calm him down, not fire him up.

Why the heck do you people think that ass-chewings actually work on grown men?

 

Because they got their asses chewed out and they "turned out okay."