thronethinker Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 With our lack of CB depth and the obvious with Tre, will Buffalo look for a CB early in 2022? Obviously the OL needs to be addressed as well, but this may have created another need. I am not saying Tre wont recover, but with these injuries you never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 We’ve got all off season to talk about this. 6 1 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, thronethinker said: With our lack of CB depth and the obvious with Tre, will Buffalo look for a CB early in 2022? Obviously the OL needs to be addressed as well, but this may have created another need. I am not saying Tre wont recover, but with these injuries you never know. i think they go corner or at least a DB of some kind in the first two rounds. I was worried about our safeties already getting up there in age. Corner is one of those positions too where you need to invest a 1st or 2nd round pick. Not a lot of elite “sleepers” you can get later on. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I likely think that Beane has already been prioritizing, O line, CB and perhaps TE and DT on his shopping list. This season is showing where we need more depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Wallace is on a 1 year deal so something needs to be done regardless of Tre’s prognosis. Probably more than one thing between FA and the draft. But as @EmotionallyUnstable stated, it’s too early to worry about it. That’s what the off-season is for. And who knows? Maybe a depth player surprises and we don’t have as great a need as we think right now. Edited November 26, 2021 by BarleyNY 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 CB, G, TE there’s your first 3 picks…I think we pickup a veteran DB and RB in free agency since this isn’t a particular good class for RBS at least at the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 It was a necessity before, now it’s a mandate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 For schizzle my nizzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, thronethinker said: With our lack of CB depth and the obvious with Tre, will Buffalo look for a CB early in 2022? Obviously the OL needs to be addressed as well, but this may have created another need. I am not saying Tre wont recover, but with these injuries you never know. I don't think CB has moved to the top of their "needs" list but if the right player is there they will take him. They would probably have done so this past draft as well if the right player was there. Tre White will be back and be fine. He's a great athlete and a dedicated pro. Rod Woodson tore his ACL in summer and came back in January to play in the Super Bowl. I fully expect him to be fine next season. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) The only position we dont need is QB. Take the best player available period. Edited November 26, 2021 by DJB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I don’t see why his injury would change things right now. Tre will likely be back for the start of next season if his rehab goes well. We should let Dane and Cam play, see how they do, than have this conversation. Levi’s impending FA is a more applicable scenario to this discussion atm. Will we pay Levi or will someone pay him more? If he leaves, it will likely be a position of need in the draft unless we add some bargain FA vets. I don’t think we’ll be spending much cap space on his replacement if we let levi go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: We’ve got all off season to talk about this. And there's nothing stopping us from discussing it now. It's not like we're the team and have to be super focused on new england, it's possible to discuss multiple topics at once. If you don't like it don't click on the thread. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I think its always an option. For Mcdermotts style elite traits are not a necessity to play outside. How the defense handles the loss of White could effect that in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, DJB said: The only position we dont need is QB. Take the best player available period. I agree with DJB. If a CB is the best available player at #32 then take him. But we are adding as much five year talent at each pick and not expecting our picks to be instant saviors at their position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i think they go corner or at least a DB of some kind in the first two rounds. I was worried about our safeties already getting up there in age. Corner is one of those positions too where you need to invest a 1st or 2nd round pick. Not a lot of elite “sleepers” you can get later on. I don’t agree with any of this. Hyde and Poyer are the best safety tandem in football and they are showing no signs of slowing down. If there is one thing (and there is more than one) that McD is good at, it’s developing corners. He’s taken an undrafted free agent and a 7th rounder and made them more than serviceable. In Carolina, he made Josh Norman a star and never had a high draft pick at either corner spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 NO Enough defense with our early picks. We are young at CB, sign a vet in FA. The offense needs to be the main focus next off season. G, G, WR, RB, TE. Our O needs a mini rebuild, we need another playmaker desperately, we need to get younger and meaner. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Don't forget a punter! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: CB, G, TE there’s your first 3 picks…I think we pickup a veteran DB and RB in free agency since this isn’t a particular good class for RBS at least at the top Completely agree with 1st two CB and guard. Actually would tweak it slightly to say guard/center. To me TE is a position that takes a couple years to develop unless it was a top 5 overall pick like Pitts. The Bills need TE help in 2022 and are in an overall win now mode so would rather see them pick up a FA vet FA TE Also would sign a top FA guard too. Like was stated last year pre-draft, the Bills don't really have roster spots for 5 or 6 rookies. 8 minutes ago, DJB said: The only position we dont need is QB. Take the best player available period. Interesting for every team in the league for whomever the team selects they always say was the best player available. IMO the player they pick might be one of the top 5 to top 10 BPA, but the guy they select better fits their own needs. Nothing wrong with doing that either, but do find it comical how they always say: "He was at the top of our board". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, Process said: NO Enough defense with our early picks. We are young at CB, sign a vet in FA. The offense needs to be the main focus next off season. G, G, WR, RB, TE. Our O needs a mini rebuild, we need another playmaker desperately, we need to get younger and meaner. Totally agree. It’s so easy to see that Beane made a mistake this off-season by basically running back last years line and thinking we’d be fine. Yes, he drafted Brown who appears to be a stud. Great find. But beyond that, he added an aging Emmanuel sanders to a 1 year deal and our only speedy weapon in Matt Breida is also on a 1 year deal. We need playmakers and guys that can protect our qb. We have invested so many recent high picks in defense and now it’s time to do that with some nasty dudes for the line. We will also need to replace Beasley soon so a speedy slot guy has to be considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t see why his injury would change things right now. Tre will likely be back for the start of next season if his rehab goes well. We should let Dane and Cam play, see how they do, than have this conversation. Levi’s impending FA is a more applicable scenario to this discussion atm. Will we pay Levi or will someone pay him more? If he leaves, it will likely be a position of need in the draft unless we add some bargain FA vets. I don’t think we’ll be spending much cap space on his replacement if we let levi go. Considering this happened very late Nov, IMO that's optimistic . He may be back week 1 but maybe at about 75%. Think it would need to go extremely well to be ready to go week 1 without seeing any drop off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I would draft a db every year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, DJB said: Take the best player available period. I don't like this phrase anymore. It reminds me of Boogie Basham 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I see several mocks with Ahmad Gardner - CB Cincinnati going to the Bills at 21. 6-3 200, not your typical CB size. Interesting prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, DCbillsfan said: I don't like this phrase anymore. It reminds me of Boogie Basham Yes. We are at the point where we need to draft for need. Look at last year. They were being very transparent about “fixing” the pass rush and they took one in 1 and 1 in two. This year they need to do that with offense. It’s clear that we need interior offensive line. Fix it. And we also need a speedy weapon if we don’t bring back Breida. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I don’t agree with any of this. Hyde and Poyer are the best safety tandem in football and they are showing no signs of slowing down. If there is one thing (and there is more than one) that McD is good at, it’s developing corners. He’s taken an undrafted free agent and a 7th rounder and made them more than serviceable. In Carolina, he made Josh Norman a star and never had a high draft pick at either corner spot. If you look at starting CB’s in the NFL (esp CB1), they are mostly first and second round picks. That’s just the reality. Guys like Norman, Sherman are the rare exceptions to the rule. i just pulled up this PFF list of top CB’s in the NFL, and they are pretty much all 1st and 2nd round picks. it’s just a position where draft position correlates much more highly to NFL success. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-the-32-best-outside-cornerbacks-entering-the-2021-nfl-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 If you think about the offseason, and not just the draft, then I do think CB is a priority. Not as big a priority as OL, but something Beane needs to look at. We're a Nickel team and trot out three starting CBs every game. Having good CB depth is important to the way we play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 It’s me, McBeane. We’ll go all defense and Carolina cast offs in the off season. You all know the drill. Now, let’s get back to focusing on the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Gotta see how it goes the rest of the way. I'm open to Dane Jackson emerging, or any possibility. If whatever they put together for the rest of this season works, there won't be a reason to make CB a high priority. They'll know more about where Tre stands on draft day, also - hopefully, he can get back on the field in a reasonable timeframe and still be a big part of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 No. Before the draft even happens there is a whole FA period. Once that's over and we see what's addressed then we think about what needs are. This is putting the cart wayyyyyyy before the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, thronethinker said: With our lack of CB depth and the obvious with Tre, will Buffalo look for a CB early in 2022? Obviously the OL needs to be addressed as well, but this may have created another need. I am not saying Tre wont recover, but with these injuries you never know. did Tre die suddenly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 No. Get a DB in free agency. Priorities are NT, C/G, #2 TE in the first three rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Considering this happened very late Nov, IMO that's optimistic . He may be back week 1 but maybe at about 75%. Think it would need to go extremely well to be ready to go week 1 without seeing any drop off. Yeah, like I said…..he’ll likely be back for the start of next season. Tre’davious WILL be one of our starting CBs next year. I don’t see why we would alter our draft strategy because there’s a chance that he has to miss a couple games at the beginning of the season. like I said, replacing levi or resigning levi + how Dane and Cam play this year will dictate our CB need in the draft. O don’t see why Tre’s injury would have anything to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 take the best of the CBs, or DTs, OC-G in round one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, McBean said: It’s me, McBeane. We’ll go all defense and Carolina cast offs in the off season. You all know the drill. Now, let’s get back to focusing on the season. So, your saying Gillmore could be coming back??🤣. I kid, I kid. I think we will be fine. My question is, will they bring someone in or up ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: No. Get a DB in free agency. Priorities are NT, C/G, #2 TE in the first three rounds. Your thinking is seriously flawed here my man. CB are expensive. NTs are cheap. C/G are cheap. #2 TEs are cheap. I FULLY agree that those positions are greater needs than CB (unless we let Levi go, than it becomes more important than all but IOL imo). draft the expensive positions. Sign the cheaper positions (if the players align in the draft obv). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 CB will need to be addressed either in free agency or early in the draft because who knows if Tre will be ready to play by the beginning of next regular season. If Wallace is not re-signed, then maybe CB is addressed in both free agency and the draft. Clearly, will be a position of need. I don't think we have much cap space for 2022, but we have definite needs that can't all be filled in the draft. OG, RB, CB and a stout DT are the areas where we need significant improvement in play or better depth. I doubt they all can be addressed next offseason, but I would prioritize trying to keep our franchise QB healthy by finding upgrades at OG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Your thinking is seriously flawed here my man. CB are expensive. NTs are cheap. C/G are cheap. #2 TEs are cheap. I FULLY agree that those positions are greater needs than CB (unless we let Levi go, than it becomes more important than all but IOL imo). draft the expensive positions. Sign the cheaper positions (if the players align in the draft obv). They will have plenty of cap space next year. That said, I would be fine with your approach. I would disagree that starter quality C/G's are cheap though. Dumpster diving for guys like Feliciano may be cheap but they would have to pay a premium to get a top 15 C/G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Short answer: yes ACLs are tricky, recovery times vary and results vary. Obviously I hope he makes a speedy full recovery but it would be a disservice to the team to not plan for the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I really don't think you can, OL and RB are important. It needs to be more focused on the offence for one draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t see why his injury would change things right now. Tre will likely be back for the start of next season if his rehab goes well. We should let Dane and Cam play, see how they do, than have this conversation. Levi’s impending FA is a more applicable scenario to this discussion atm. Will we pay Levi or will someone pay him more? If he leaves, it will likely be a position of need in the draft unless we add some bargain FA vets. I don’t think we’ll be spending much cap space on his replacement if we let levi go. Being back and playing at an all pro level are two very different things, it almost always takes two years to fully recover from an acl tear. We are going to need to draft a corner early next year . We are not in horrible shape but this is going to hurt the defense which means we need the offense to step up and start playing like they can every week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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