Time to go on record if you honestly believe this is still a SB caliber team or even a playoff team at this point

[Jerome007]

It's the first time in a loooooong while they've been crushed. So of course we are all dejected. Everything seemed to be going bad at once, except for injuries (thankfully). 

 

This game to me was a test to see if the D could stop runs down the middle by a great OL. They still can't, and it sucked. That's the scary takeaway from this game.

 

The O has been hit and miss all season long, mostly good than bad, but inconsistant. IDK exactly why besides the OL gives little time to pass plays and opens few holes on run plays. Many other things but it starts there.

 

And yes, I certainly think the Bills can make the playoffs, and thus have a chance at the SB. So I'll go on record stating it. But what has changed is that once it almost was a given barring injuries and bad luck, while it's now a struggle and no certainty to make it in the playoff dance.  

[FilthyBeast]

9 minutes ago, motorj said:

The top AFC teams are getting manhandled this week, so sure they still have a shot. If the can beat the hot pats then that should confirm it for you doubters

 

The Titans choked big time but they certainly didn't get manhandled.

 

Other than that Chiefs just took an early lead and has looked like the team everyone expected all along.

 

Oh and the Patriots are one win away at home next week against the titans from being the #1 overall seed in the NFL.

[CSBill]

Playoffs still very doable. 
 

And with the fact there are no dominate teams in the AFC, the SB is a still a possibility if we get in the tournament. 

[BillsFan130]

12 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

And I'd hate to face Bills in the playoffs if they are hot. All they need to do is just get there. I won't let a crappy weather game sum up an otherwise good season. 

The weather unfortunately had nothing to do with the game. Maybe on offence a bit.

 

But the bills knew the colts were going to run and they still couldn't stop it. The trenches were the game was ultimately lost for the bills 

[swimtoga]

Super Bowl bound! Still love this team! 

[Bigantall]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Playoff team. If the timing is right, a Super Bowl team. If we get lucky, we still have a chance to win the Super Bowl. 

You sound like a fool!

[cgg716]

Still a playoff team, probably still a division winner, that’s it though, even in a weak AFC. Bound to be throughly outcoached in January, as Mcd is all too often, like today. Not a super bowl coach sadly 

[SF Bills Fan]

No- we will not win the division and will squeak into the playoffs or even miss them. Even with the  injuries Super Bowl calibre teams find ways to win. We are playing undisciplined and sloppy football. Coaching is a problem, play calling, Josh is playing poorly. So many problems. We won’t beat the Pats twice. We need to address the O-line and run game and look to next year. 

[Beast]

4 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said:

The favorites change from week to week.  We have the same team that everyone loved at 4-1.

 

All this MVP and Super Bowl talk is nonsense at this point of any season.

 

This team can get hot and they can play with anyone.  They came up a half-yard short against the Titans in THEIR house, then lost a game they shouldn't have (Jags) and a tough matchup game (Colts).  The Colts probably wanted it more.  A loss for them and they would have been 4-6... more desperation.

 

Let's see how the Bills play now that they're no longer leading their division and being written off by some fans and the ever-fickle press.  I would hope they get a chip on their collective shoulder. 

 

Adjustments aren't just a halftime thing... sometimes you've got to figure things out as the season goes on.

 

This team should make the playoffs and if they get on a roll, they could make the Super Bowl.  Personally, I think the team is still an offseason or two away from assuming its ultimate form... but on any given Sunday, anything can happen.

I’m not going to beat up on you but look at the whole puzzle.

 

The Bills beat a struggling Chiefs team, Miami twice, Houston, Washington and the Jets.

 

Please tell me a quality win they’ve had this season. The Chiefs? maybe, maybe not.

[Ramza86]

Sweep the Pats or we may not even make the playoffs.

[BaaadThingsMan]

This team can still achieve all their goals this season. 

[ChevyVanMiller]

I think that with Starr, Edmonds, and Spencer Brown playing it’s an entirely different team. Right now the Covid list is beating us up as bad as other teams are.

[Hebert19]

Depends who we playing.  

 

Can we beat the chiefs or cards.  Yes.  Can we beat anyone who plays hard nose football like the pack or titans.  No.  

 

Soft team but can they go on a run given the right matchup. Yes

[Bigantall]

17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

And I'd hate to face Bills in the playoffs if they are hot. All they need to do is just get there. I won't let a crappy weather game sum up an otherwise good season. 

You sound like a fool#

12 minutes ago, Draconator said:

I'm confident we are a playoff team. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen. Tampa won 3 road games last year to get to the Super Bowl. Anything can happen.

You sound like a fool!

10 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said:

The favorites change from week to week.  We have the same team that everyone loved at 4-1.

 

All this MVP and Super Bowl talk is nonsense at this point of any season.

 

This team can get hot and they can play with anyone.  They came up a half-yard short against the Titans in THEIR house, then lost a game they shouldn't have (Jags) and a tough matchup game (Colts).  The Colts probably wanted it more.  A loss for them and they would have been 4-6... more desperation.

 

Let's see how the Bills play now that they're no longer leading their division and being written off by some fans and the ever-fickle press.  I would hope they get a chip on their collective shoulder. 

 

Adjustments aren't just a halftime thing... sometimes you've got to figure things out as the season goes on.

 

This team should make the playoffs and if they get on a roll, they could make the Super Bowl.  Personally, I think the team is still an offseason or two away from assuming its ultimate form... but on any given Sunday, anything can happen.

You sound like a fool!

9 minutes ago, motorj said:

Bills had some key players injured as well. If you're scared of the ravens and a non henry titans and a chiefs team bills manhandled I don't know what to tell you.

you sound like a fool!

[Draconator]

5 minutes ago, Bigantall said:

You sound like a fool#

You sound like a fool!

You sound like a fool!

you sound like a fool!

 

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. I'm sick of people like you thinking all this doom and gloom. Enjoy what we have. If you can't enjoy the good things in life, GTFO.

[Albany,n.y.]

12 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Injury plagued?

Brown, Star, Feliciano, Edmunds Kumerow.  Their replacements are trash.  There is no depth in the NFL & we're now the victims.  

[Andy1]

We got issues. Every AFC team has issues. No one has any idea how this will all shake out this year in the AFC. 

[Bigantall]

The worst part for me is the post game interview after a loss it's like these guys are on prerecorded responses

 

[Sandhill Mike]

  

8 minutes ago, Bigantall said:

you sound like a fool!

 

 

So go burn all your Bills gear and get you a Pats hat... you sound like one of their entitled fans.

 

You deserve a team that lives up to your standards.  Don't settle for less.

 

While you're at it, call the team headquarters and give them a piece of your mind!  Don't forget to tell them how to right the ship.

 

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by Sandhill Mike

[DrPJax]

13 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

 

And I'd hate to face Bills in the playoffs if they are hot. All they need to do is just get there. I won't let a crappy weather game sum up an otherwise good season. 

They are 6-4!   The weather was perfect in Jacksonville!  They have not won back to back games in almost two months !    The Bucs and pats will run the ball down their throats !    No team fears meeting the bIlls at this point.  Pressure Josh , run the ball , get ahead and you have little to worry about.   No running game and the passing attack is not consistent.   This is a team in big trouble.     Still think they need wake up losses!?   Their goal was to have home playoff games.  Not one sack against wentz ,?   Wow.  What trend do you think results in them getting hot?   They are now what their record says.  We beat poor teams and lose to real contenders.   If they sweep the pats and Bucs, then I will eat crow.  But this is turning into another disappointing season with Mcd having another of his characteristic blow oit losses that seem to occur yearly.  Blaming weather for a team based in a poor weather city seems like you are in denial.  Time will tell , but the Bucs and pats have better head coaches and  if they don’t sweep those games , they may not even make the playoffs.  We just passed the half way mark and we have more losses now than all of last year. Not very encouraging of a pending run !  Sooner or later you actually have to Win GAMES. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Any team can get on a run. If they beat Pats twice they win the division and host a playoff game. They can still make the SB despite McD. 

I'm still the optimist. Bills win next two games and they are in.

If they miss the playoffs, McD has to go. Not sure Beane even has the power to do that but it needs to happen. Then Beane gets one more offseason and one more draft before he is jettisoned too.

[McBean]

I believe this is a Super Bowl team because we have Josh Allen.

[BhamBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, Bigantall said:

I think we make the playoffs as a wild card. No way we win this division. BB is 10x smarter than SM, and hopefully we don't get swept by the Pats! Spencer Brown and Feliciano are our two best guys on the O line, so I'm not as worried about the O line, as I am the D line and the fact that we forgot how to tackle. Why are we trying to tackle everyone around the neck?? Good teams go low and we're going high and missing a ton of tackles. Penalties are also killing us!! Where is the discipline Coach McD??? I've got us going 10-7 and winning one playoff game, but this will go down as one of the most disappointing years in a long damn time!

 

[The Avenger]

Wildcard team, but only because every other AFC team has losses. Too many issues and too one dimensional to go very far.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

The team needs to re learn to play each game with intensity and play like they care about a regular season game 

 

The team plays like they don't care, they continue to say the right things but the games say something completely different

 

Edited November 21, 2021 by Cheektowaga Chad

[KOKBILLS]

I mean...

 

The way they are playing now?

 

It's bad...

 

[zow2]

As i said in another thread. May be more appropriate here. No team that gets dominated like that in a big game, at home, will be a threat to win the Super bowl. That dream has died today.  Buf might still be able to sneak in as a wild card but it’s hard to tell.  If they lose to the Saints then no. If they beat the Saints then they Need to at least split with NE. 

Too may other AFC teams have 6-7 wins already. 

[Alphadawg7]

When healthy, we are absolutely a contender.  When not healthy we are vulnerable depending on who is out. 

 

But we have one major issue...we are committing way way way too many dumb mistakes to beat ourselves.  We are our toughest opponent.  

 

We continue to leave points on the board and also let opponents have free points because we make untimely mistakes and penalties.  3rd and 2 and going to easily pick it up...play blown dead...false start.  Next play holding...suddenly 3rd and 18 instead of TD or FG.  Happens way too often like it did today.  Several times we would hold them and again a bad penalty gives them a free first down or do over.  

 

3 plays in the first half led to this being a 3 score game at half time.  3rd and 2 false start on our opening drive that led to 3rd and 18 and an INT.  We were moving the ball at will at that point, we likely score a TD or at the very least a FG.  Instead we give them great field position and they convert into another TD.  

 

Next...we had them 3 and out...give them a free first down with penalties.  Eventually gives them 3 more points.  

 

Then...McKenzie fumble gave them a free TD.  

 

Just those 3 plays completely turned the game substantially in their favor.  Then we still had a drive to end the half and open the half...both drives killed by mistakes and dropped passes that we self inflicted on ourselves again.  

This is our BIGGEST issue.  We have done this in so many games...its why we lost every game this year coming into this game...Pitt, Tenn, and Jags were all losses that were the result of plays we shot ourselves in the foot with unnecessary and stupid mistakes.  

 

For this reason, I feel like we can still compete for and win a SB this year.  We need to significantly reduce those kinds of mistakes, and its something we CAN do...and if we do, we are as tough as anyone in the league to beat.  Heck, had we just been better on that alone thus far, we would be undefeated coming into this week.  

[Sandhill Mike]

12 minutes ago, Beast said:

I’m not going to beat up on you but look at the whole puzzle.

 

 

I see upset after upset week in and week out.  The playoffs don't start tomorrow.  There are seven weeks left to see who's got what.

 

The Bills may indeed flame out but I'm not going to sit here and worry myself sick about it.  I've been a Bills fan long enough to appreciate the good times.  6-4 and some of you talk like we haven't won a game.  I don't think this team will lose out.

 

For those of you trying to pick the winners from this point forward, you can't just look at records and make up your minds... it seems we had more than a few fans that overlooked the Jaguars and Colts while figuring out when Allen would be declared the MVP and questing for home field.

 

Some of you think the book has now been written on how to stop the Bills.  I guess we'll just lose out, right?  I don't think it works that way.

 

The last two weeks haven't been fun but I've SEEN McDermott make adjustments... Beane has built the best team we've had to pull for in 30 damn years.  The team has a bad month and the season might circle the drain... but I'll not be scolded for being optimistic.

 

This IS the same team that went 4-1 and got the kids dreaming of Super Bowls.  Most realistic fans know it's a looong season and lots can happen.

 

I've learned to let it play out... don't get too high or too low.  I think people are having trouble reconciling their expectations.  So far, the Bills are living up to mine.

[Livinginthepast]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Playoff team. If the timing is right, a Super Bowl team. If we get lucky, we still have a chance to win the Super Bowl. 

This is exactly where I am at. If they can peak at the right time and get some breaks they can win it all. Much lesser teams have done it. This is the only silver lining I an think of at this point. If you are going to suck then do it now and if you are going to peak do it in January.

[Casual fan]

[goldenboy81]

I predicted 12-5..now idk if they can get that

[Albwan]

    I'm seriously at the point that I wonder are they are going to get another win?

What is their strength at this point? They don't even have a quality win so far this season.

Outcoached, outmanned and not much in the way of depth.

Totally over rated. Not saying rebuild, but....

Same ol bills.

[Barnaby Wilde]

I'd like to have better optimism but no, this is not even a playoff team.  For some reason the same movie keeps happening every year.  Start strong and then take a typical body slamming in front of their fans before it all ends up eventually collapsing in on everybody's head.  I don't believe in McDermott.  Not that I changed opinion but never thought he was the right material to lead them to greater heights.  Bills have been losing so long and then McDermott comes along and they smell the playoffs and now everybody is stuck to him like glue but it just seems Buffalo is spinning his wheels with him and this coaching staff for whatever reason.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I’ve been saying all along, Buffalo will be a 3-17 team and barely miss the playoffs.  I’m almost always right.

[billsbackto81]

This team can beat and lose to any team in the NFL at any given time.

 

Pretty much just like all the others.

[727Bills]

Make this a poll 😊

[GunnerBill]

Still a playoff team? Yes

 

A SB contender? Nope. 

 

I think we will struggle to repeat last season's AFCCG run. The flaws on this team are too fundamental and they start with personnel up front. Money and picks have been spent and the production from both groups is not good enough. 

 

Football is still a simple game. If you lose the trenches then 9/10 you lose the game.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

8 minutes ago, zow2 said:

As i said in another thread. May be more appropriate here. No team that gets dominated like that in a big game, at home, will be a threat to win the Super bowl. That dream has died today.  Buf might still be able to sneak in as a wild card but it’s hard to tell.  If they lose to the Saints then no. If they beat the Saints then they Need to at least split with NE. 

Too may other AFC teams have 6-7 wins already. 

 

Superbowl winning teams can and do lose blowout losses at home. The SB champion Bucs lost 38-3 to the Saints at home in week 9 last year.

 

One god awful game from the Bills doesn't invalidate the rest of the season. We're still one of the most talented teams in the NFL and if we play to our potential we should beat any team. 

 

 

[Bferra13]

42 minutes ago, Beast said:

I said, in the pre-game thread, I felt the Bills had to come out of the Indy, Saints, Patriots, Bucs stretch at at least 3-1 to be considered a contender. I was roasted for saying that. Why? I don’t know.

 

Obviously it now looks like 3-1 was wishful thinking. This team is not that good. It doesn’t make us any less fans, or make us wish any less that they will get it together. It is what it is. They feasted on some pathetic teams and when the going has been tough, they have folded like a cheap suit.

 

They can stop with their cute, love each other, everyone has a hot sauce, Shnow-man, blah, blah, blah. They appear mentally weak and I, for the first time, wonder if McDermott is the answer. Seriously, a 50 yard FG in crap conditions on 4th and 5 when down 24-7? That is PATHETIC.

 

This team will be lucky to make the playoffs. If they do they most likely will be one and out.

 

There. I’m on the record.

I like the hot sauce, shnow-man part 😆. Agreed, pathetic lovey dovey bs team that is weak at its core. All talk, no "shnow." Still time to turn it around, but that starts at the top.