HOUSE Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 A savage blow by the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerstAusGosheim Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The NFL should instate a rule that you can't poach a first year drafted player from a practice squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Can the player refuse to be signed? Dumb question, but I’d rather stay with the Bills with a legit shot of making the team next year than go to the Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Good riddance, that’s what he gets for daring to wear OJ’s #. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Not much else to say. I didn’t think rachad was that good and I don’t really wish him well tbh. He was so physically overmatched against NFL players in his limited snaps that I can't believe that the Bills actually kept him around. I don't have strong feelings about him either way but the fact that the jets just poached a guy that has no business on an NFL field is pretty amusing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Bummer when i heard the jets stealing Wildgoose , i was like Ah, Harsh. Wow, Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Virgil said: Can the player refuse to be signed? Dumb question, but I’d rather stay with the Bills with a legit shot of making the team next year than go to the Jets I would say the odds of making the team are a lot higher in NY than here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am actually surprised that we have not had anyone else poached yet. Good for him. I believe the Eagles poached Jack Anderson - G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnNord said: Given the Jets secondary he might get a chance to actually play this season Given how banged up they are (and their secondary isn't great when healthy), I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the field for them soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I can't recall for sure and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think I had Wildgoose making the final 53. I had him over Taiwan Jones or maybe Gilliam. I would still choose that today. I would much rather have a developmental CB or safety playing special teams than a 4th or 5th RB. Consider the blowout this past week. He could have gotten some low pressure real game reps at CB or safety. Wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: I believe the Eagles poached Jack Anderson - G. Yes it was the Eagles. Don't think he has been active once though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 As I understand the rules, the player and the other team have to agree to the signing. Wildgoose could have stayed with the Bills on the PS. But the increase in salary is huge, plus this puts him on the Jets' 53 man roster where he's much more likely to play. He might bounce around to other teams after this year, or come back to the Bills, which is the path a lot of JAGs follow. They never pass up an opportunity to play, and to be paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, JohnNord said: Given the Jets secondary he might get a chance to actually play this season He will be their CB1 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Mike White probably said "get someone of the bills defense to show me what they were doing to me cuz all I saw was ghost on Sunday" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They probably want to learn something about our defense before they play us again. Insidious those Jests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: They probably want to learn something about our defense before they play us again. That might not be far off from the truth. Wildgoose knows the gameplan the Bills used to throttle the Dolphins offense twice already and the Jets are playing the Dolphins this week and desperately need a better performance from their defense. Saleh was.. effusive.. about Buffalo Defense so maybe he wants to know how they defended the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Malazan said: That might not be far off from the truth. Wildgoose knows the gameplan the Bills used to throttle the Dolphins offense twice already and the Jets are playing the Dolphins this week and desperately need a better performance from their defense. Saleh was.. effusive.. about Buffalo Defense so maybe he wants to know how they defended the Dolphins. Or Saleh could watch the film of the game. Either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, TBBills said: We got Goosed! Normally I only get that from the misses after a few pops on my birthday… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Maybe Beane will start poaching from team’s practice squads….hint, hint Where would we put them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, billsherd said: Mike White probably said "get someone of the bills defense to show me what they were doing to me cuz all I saw was ghost on Sunday" Actually, an intern was probably reading suggestions on the Gang Green Jets fan forum. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Great. lose the Wildgoose right before Thanksgiving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 If he agreed to join the Jets, he's not that smart. No loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, QCity said: I would say the odds of making the team are a lot higher in NY than here. Too bad he's going to NJ then... 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Insidious those Jests 3D checkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 After last week, will he give Hyde #### after he picks White in his first practice with gangrene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Remember, Wildgoose didn't have to sign with the Jets if he didn't want to. Clearly, he saw an opportunity to get an NFL paycheck versus a practice squad paycheck, and have an opportunity to get on the field. I can't blame him. It may be a bad team, but it's a chance to play. It's not so different from David Culley jumping at the chance to be head coach for the dumpster fire known as the Houston Texans. I don't think it's a given that playing for a bad team like the Jets is a death sentence for his future career. I do think that if Saleh can't show the start of a turnaround next year, that coach/GM regime may not survive to gain a third season. That will mean another roster teardown. Wildgoose, if he's still with the team in 2022 might be looking for somewhere to go after that. Inn the mean time, maybe hegets a chance to generate a little game tape to aid in his future job search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I have a feeling he'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 hours ago, TheProcess said: I guess he really wants to play. So much so that he’d do anything like sign with the Jets. Putting aside the QB issue, which I'm not sure they've solved (maybe they have), the Jets have a solid roster, they just have so many guys out injured they look like crap on the field. If the Bills had that many key guys out (eg, QB, #1 WR, LT, starting secondary, etc) we'd look like crap on the field too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I feel sorry for the Goose, 4 new head coaches in the next 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Putting aside the QB issue, which I'm not sure they've solved (maybe they have), the Jets have a solid roster, they just have so many guys out injured they look like crap on the field. If the Bills had that many key guys out (eg, QB, #1 WR, LT, starting secondary, etc) we'd look like crap on the field too. I would not describe it as solid. I would say it is better than it looks. Becton, Carl Lawson and Maye now all being out is probably their three best players and that does hurt, no doubt. But especially on defense they still only have 4 or 5 players who would start for any of the other 31 teams. There are 5 or 6 guys starting on that D who have no place starting in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I would not describe it as solid. I would say it is better than it looks. Becton, Carl Lawson and Maye now all being out is probably their three best players and that does hurt, no doubt. But especially on defense they still only have 4 or 5 players who would start for any of the other 31 teams. There are 5 or 6 guys starting on that D who have no place starting in the NFL. The problem with this is, all those guys are question marks as well… Becton is a massive human being who literally cannot stay on the field. Lawson has now had 3 major injuries in the span of 7 years. Marcus Maye wants out on the first bus out of town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 When your a good team with a deep roster these things happen. Good for Wildgoose that he gets to play in the NFL but it sucks that he goes to the Jets. 55 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I feel sorry for the Goose, 4 new head coaches in the next 5 years Sally is going to be there at least 3 years if not longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Maybe Beane will start poaching from team’s practice squads….hint, hint But then we have to drop somebody from the 40 man roster and keep the PS pickup there. IF we think that the worse guy on our 40 man roster is better or more useful than anybody on all the NFL practice squads, then we become worse if we pouched somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, SCBills said: The problem with this is, all those guys are question marks as well… Becton is a massive human being who literally cannot stay on the field. Lawson has now had 3 major injuries in the span of 7 years. Marcus Maye wants out on the first bus out of town. There are question marks on them, that is true. But those question marks are not ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 14 hours ago, JohnNord said: Given the Jets secondary he might get a chance to actually play this season weekend fyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: Remember, Wildgoose didn't have to sign with the Jets if he didn't want to. Clearly, he saw an opportunity to get an NFL paycheck versus a practice squad paycheck, and have an opportunity to get on the field. I can't blame him. It may be a bad team, but it's a chance to play. It's not so different from David Culley jumping at the chance to be head coach for the dumpster fire known as the Houston Texans. I don't think it's a given that playing for a bad team like the Jets is a death sentence for his future career. I do think that if Saleh can't show the start of a turnaround next year, that coach/GM regime may not survive to gain a third season. That will mean another roster teardown. Wildgoose, if he's still with the team in 2022 might be looking for somewhere to go after that. Inn the mean time, maybe hegets a chance to generate a little game tape to aid in his future job search. Likely short-term gain, long-term loss. It will be interesting to see how it works out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 They can have the Wildgoose, just so long as they leave me the Wild Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 20 hours ago, Virgil said: Can the player refuse to be signed? Dumb question, but I’d rather stay with the Bills with a legit shot of making the team next year than go to the Jets Yes but he is making some good money and gaining more exposure experience. Wildgoose signed a 1 year contract with the Jets. He will be a FA if he is still on the Jets main roster at the end of the season. He could come back to the Bills next year if both parties want that to happen. I see a chance that might happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The goose is loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 21 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Too bad he's going to NJ then... 3D checkers. Laughed out loud Bud ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 This just goes to show that this is a new era in the NFL. We essentially lost two of our draft picks from this year, AFTER investing time, reps , not to mention we could have possibly made a couple of moves if we figured by the beginning of the year they would be perpetually on the PS squad. This is more thought / suggestion that hanging onto later round draft picks for the following year has little value as we essentially lost 2 pics now for no compensation. This adds more weight to the fact that if Beane had any chance to add value before the trade deadline, just as the Rams gm explained , holding on to those future late pics when you already have most of your roster filled out makes little sense compared to getting a player with known value. So perhaps we could have added some ol prospect, or even another dl prospect given zimmers situation. People criticized the rams saying they had few if any picks next year in the draft when in fact they have 8 picks already and will prob get more with comp pics. We are at a similar stage in team development; we have our solid , young core, and just sitting on those future pics guarantees nothing. We should be doing things like dumping Ford ( obvious his Bills career is over in the long run) , and using some pics to try to correct weaknesses for THIS YEARS SB run! if there is one thing that I feel is still a weakness with our staff, it’s roster management of the lower part of the roster. Breida showed this week how speed makes a difference. His two tds probably don’t happen with the lack of comparable speed from motor / moss. He ran and broke away thru small holes in those opportunities ( yes, the pass route required his speed to break open for the passing window) given for a two td gsme, which makes you wonder what might have been if he was used more , esp in Jax where the other backs did nothing as an example ! Losing two players in just one half of a season , meaning their draft pics netted zero, seems like very poor roster management at this point in the Mcd and Beane regime! Just because we have a good team doesn’t excuse losing players / essentially picks , for NOTHING! I am not an expert , but the fact that our roster is being picked / poached , while other teams like the rams , cowboys, cards , packers ( teams with equally good rosters and records ) are not getting players taken for no return , makes me think we are not managing the roster the best way. It’s not because we are just so overflowing with talent , because our record doesn’t show that , and we have a below avg o line just for one example. It’s about who Mcd continues to be willing to expose. Hey , cleveland has a pro bowl guard thanks to roster / talent evaluation mistakes. Did we ever explore trading someone like wildgoose,given he was destined to just be exposed every week on the PS? Maybe try getting an o lineman for a couple picks , like 5 th , 6 th , and seeing if we could get a 6 th or 7 th for guys who were never going to see the field this year? I am just thinking out loud , we have lost two players / pics this year for NOTHING. Time for Beane to reevaluate cherishing all his pics and reevaluating who we leave exposed ( I mean cbs, ol always seem to be in demand) and it shows it makes ,little sense holding on to future pics while you are in the run for HF / SB. Couple that with Brieda / boogie almost always being inactive, IMHO our roster management continues to be an area of concern esp when our 3 conference losses had coaching / roster/ adjustment issues. Not making any moves to address areas of weakness at the trade deadline just to hold onto late draft picks now seems silly when we have given two picks away for nothing so far this year ! Just a different way to look at things; throwing out some ideas and wonder if guys here have other creative solutions. Seems like we could manage this better than losing players for nothing in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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