So what is the Defensive Gameplan?

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Diggs watching the celebration. 

 

Wonder if Allen gets too amped for this one?

will there be fans present?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

The real key to me is have other people besides the 2 beat you. I would bracket Kelce off the line. This involves the DE on his side and the Nickel or LB chucking him within 5 yards. If he splits into the slot then we need to have a Safety pressed on him with a LB looking outside in on him to hit him if he runs an inside route. 
 

The Chiefs favorite concept is an over route where Kelce drags one way across the field while Hill runs a flat post across the field utilizing his speed to stretch a defense. I think someone said that their passing playbook is like 38% of this concept in different variations and formations. 
 

If that’s the case I would play about 5 yards off Hill with a 2 deep shell where Poyer and Hyde have to communicate Hill on all plays and track with him across the field. 
 

Take those 2 away the best you can and make Helaire, Hardeman, Pringle etc beat you. Johnson is supposed to be good enough and should be able to contain Hardeman or Pringle 

To your first point, the Bills inexplicably Give Kelce a free release. I think some film nerd did a deep dive on this, and Kelce will kill you every time with a free release. Half the time he goes out and turns and catches the ball And falls Down, and it’s like 10

yards. You need to blow him up at the line. 

[Lv-Bills]

[PrimeTime101]

I think the original game plan will be if our front 4 can get home to Mahomes. If so Kelce and Hill will get lots of double team and every now and then send a 5th. If the front 4 does not get home then expect lots of man/zone combo... expect the bills to change their defense often during the game.  Bottom line to win we either have to force punts or force FG's.  Thats how we win this game.

[ndirish1978]

You hit the QB early, hard and often. Nothing dirty, just make him drop his eyes a little to check the oncoming rush before throwing rather than sitting back and scanning the field. D-line rotation will be important because we're likely rushing 4 and dropping everyone else. We should be able to do that this year rather than relying on blitzes for pressures. Make him pay that Patrick Price if he wants to drop back and pass.

 

Jam Kelce at the line, just mug him within 5 yards.

Edited October 6, 2021 by ndirish1978

[billsfan89]

I think in the first quarter they see how the Dline plays on Mahomes and force Mahomes to be patient taking away Kelce via double teams and Hill deep by playing two deep zone. Let the other WR’s beat you short. 
 

If the Dline can’t get pressure then I think they dial up the blitzes and just take chances or play back and let the defense surrender short yardage and play for field goals in the redzone.

[Kelly the Dog]

I say put Tre on Hill and just let him be. Tre will get beat a couple times but I think we can live with it. Put Poyer or Hyde double teaming Kelce every play. Switch up the DL often and throw a few blitzes at Mahomes from Milano/Klein or DBs. 

[Mr. K]

Force turnovers and limit big plays. Mahommes is going to get his so I would imagine they stick with a base pass rush, soft zones, and man coverage for Kelce/Hill. Hopefully the d-line rotation is up for the task. It's going to take batted balls at the line and collapsing the pocket to force what I think will decide the game from a defensive perspective.... turnovers. 

[nedboy7]

I'm just grateful I dont have to come up with it.  I'm busy with the menu. 

[Watkins101]

I'd say run Tre White on Hill all night and keep a high safety for help, as well as doubling Kelce when possible. Try to confuse Mahomes out of his reads so that he takes longer to get rid of the ball and we can test the O-line all game. 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

Ok so who do we give the needle to? Oliver? Star?

Oliver, he younger and has steadier hands…, 😁👍

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

We've got to pray !!

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

have Tre White Follow Kelce all over the field.

 

Have Hill Doubled

 

Pressure Mahomes and make the WR2 have a game to beat you.

100% agree. You can stop elite TEs with elite Corners. I would be fine if White played man to man with Kelce the whole game and they played zone everywhere else

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said:

We can’t give it away before Sunday 

So you don’t want me to talk about the conversation I had with Frazier last night? 🤐

[Blainorama5]

Don't settle for FGs.  We're not going to keep KC under 30 at home.

[Brennan Huff]

43 minutes ago, BTB said:

So you don’t want me to talk about the conversation I had with Frazier last night? 🤐

🤫

[Dr.Sack]

Play a 3 safety Cover 3 like Tampa did in the Super Bowl. Get pressure sending 3 or 4 men. When you do blitz overload so as to force Mahomes to a sideline (preferably running left) while playing press man with 1 safety deep on Hill’s side of the field. 

[billsbackto81]

4 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Different from what it was the last 2 meetings that's for sure

I don't think the first game in the regular season was a bad game plan. They allowed CEH to run and kept everything in front of them limiting the BIG chunk plays. It was a good plan considering the factors that time.

1. No Milano to help with Kelce.

2. Weather was bad making it difficult to slow the run game.

3. Lack of pass rush and pressure.

4. Covid really hurt game prep with the Tennessee fiasco the previous week.

Even with all that IIRC we were only down 6 with over 6 minutes left and just missing a fumble recovery deep in their territory.

Hopefully Milano plays. Hopefully weather is dry and calm. Hopefully our revamped D front makes Mahomes uncomfortable. Hopefully we pull out the win. LFGo Bills!!!

[RedDog3940]

Mix in some defensive sets using our depth at D-line and play 5 at a time bringing extra pressure up the middle.  Also mix in corner/safety blitzes.  Agree with others on not allowing Kelce a free release - need to impact the timing of his routes.

[LeGOATski]

2 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

I'd say run Tre White on Hill all night and keep a high safety for help, as well as doubling Kelce when possible. Try to confuse Mahomes out of his reads so that he takes longer to get rid of the ball and we can test the O-line all game. 

They may put White on Hill, but I don't think that's the obvious solution. In my opinion, if they're gonna bracket Hill all game, do it with Levi and a safety. Let Tre White frustrate Kelce the way he did to Gronk.

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

They may put White on Hill, but I don't think that's the obvious solution. In my opinion, if they're gonna bracket Hill all game, do it with Levi and a safety. Let Tre White frustrate Kelce the way he did to Gronk.

I think that Levi has upped his game and has been good this year but is NO match for Hill's speed and would be all but worthless against him.

[LeGOATski]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

I think that Levi has upped his game and has been good this year but is NO match for Hill's speed and would be all but worthless against him.

Yeah, if you ask him to man-up on him....

[Solomon Grundy]

5 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I say double Hill and keep Kelce as locked as possible. Rush four, rotate fresh d-lineman in and hope for good pressure. If they beat us with the run game then so be it. 
 

Forcing KC to run should speed the game up a bit but we have to take advantage of every offensive opportunity. 

I say put Tre on Hill, pressure from front four, drop everyone else into coverage 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:

Play a 3 safety Cover 3 like Tampa did in the Super Bowl. Get pressure sending 3 or 4 men. When you do blitz overload so as to force Mahomes to a sideline (preferably running left) while playing press man with 1 safety deep on Hill’s side of the field. 

Yup, that’s the common thread, getting pressure with a base (4) players. 
 

That will allow for more exotic coverages.

[Solomon Grundy]

5 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Diggs watching the celebration. 

 

Wonder if Allen gets too amped for this one?

I think playing on the road will be beneficial to Josh. The competitor in him will be trying to silence the crowd 

1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:

Play a 3 safety Cover 3 like Tampa did in the Super Bowl. Get pressure sending 3 or 4 men. When you do blitz overload so as to force Mahomes to a sideline (preferably running left) while playing press man with 1 safety deep on Hill’s side of the field. 

Get him a direct line to Leslie Frazier!!!

[eball]

The defensive game plan?  Hope our bevy of D-linemen wear out their OL.

 

But really, this game is about our offense.  The Bills need to score on 5 or 6 possessions, and I’m not talking FGs.  Josh has to be dialed in and our guys can’t put the football on the carpet.

 

 

1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said:

Play a 3 safety Cover 3 like Tampa did in the Super Bowl. Get pressure sending 3 or 4 men. When you do blitz overload so as to force Mahomes to a sideline (preferably running left) while playing press man with 1 safety deep on Hill’s side of the field. 

 

I like this, and with as well as Jaquon played last week we now appear to have three stud safeties.  You go on with your bad self, Dr. Sack!

 

 

Edited October 6, 2021 by eball

[buffalo2218]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Oliver, he younger and has steadier hands…, 😁👍

True but Star has a lot more hiding places

[inthebuff]

Study how Tampa won the Superbowl....this from NFL.com right afterward....

 

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Todd Bowles was the true MVP of Super Bowl LV. The Buccaneers defensive coordinator called a masterful game that had Patrick Mahomes scrambling for his life and holding the ball, and gave the Chiefs no deep shots. Bowles dropped safeties deep to negate Tyreek Hill 's speed and funnel everything underneath. The Bucs were ready for Andy Reid's normal counter, sniffing out every screen K.C. tried. Devin White was a menace, discombobulating every snap. Lavonte David helped smother Travis Kelce . Blanketing the field deep, not allowing a completion of 20-plus air yards to an offense that feasts off such plays, the Bucs controlled the game. The most dominant aspect of the game came from Tampa's defensive front, which throttled an injured Chiefs O-line. The Bucs often were through the line a second after the snap, causing Mahomes to retreat on first step. Tampa destroyed backup Chiefs offensive tackles with Shaquil Barrett constantly in Mahomes' face. The Bucs pressured Mahomes on 32.7% of his snaps while only blitzing on five snaps, per Next Gen Stats. The Bucs held Mahomes to 114 yards through three quarters and kept the Chiefs out of the end zone, earning two INTs of the star QB. It was as thorough a beating as Mahomes has experienced, and the first double-digit loss of his NFL career.

 

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

The defensive game plan?  Hope our bevy of D-linemen wear out their OL.

 

But really, this game is about our offense.  The Bills need to score on 5 or 6 possessions, and I’m not talking FGs.  Josh has to be dialed in and our guys can’t put the football on the carpet.

Not sure the adjustments Bills make on Defense, in any event it will have to be better than last couple meetings with KC. Agree with you Offense needs TDs instead of FG's as much as possible.

 

In regards to bold, don't know what the forecast is but hopefully no wet balls will make a difference. Seemed like it was popping all over the place at times other day

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Let them have their way with us. We don’t want to give away the game plan for the AFC title game. But if we are lucky we will out score them and win anyway.

[Mat68]

Take away the deep over.  Play more coverage than blitz.  Short zones need to attack Mahomes vs sagging into coverage.  Rush 3.  Have a de or Edmunds jam Kelce every passing down, and delay rush them. 

Edited October 6, 2021 by Mat68

[BBills88]

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

have Tre White Follow Kelce all over the field.

 

Have Hill Doubled

 

Pressure Mahomes and make the WR2 have a game to beat you.

That sounds like a great plan. 

[Captain Caveman]

I am not a football coach but would have a linebacker jamming Hill at the line and then covered by White on every suspected pass play.  

[BBills88]

Think & play aggressive, hit them harder than they hitting us, every chance we get hit Mahomes, swarm to the ball.  

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

have Tre White Follow Kelce all over the field.

 

Have Hill Doubled

 

Pressure Mahomes and make the WR2 have a game to beat you.

That sounds like a great plan. 

[Jerome007]

Has there ever been a more hyped 2-2 team? They are in the Top 3 of most power rankings while last in their division. And you know what? I agree with it all ha ha.

 

As mentioned, the Bills OFFENSE has to outpace them. Our D has to be ready mentally. After 2 shutouts in 4 games, and 4 great performances overall, they must play hard no matter if the Chiefs score at will, keep trying to stop them and make big plays. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Another common theme of this thread, and common to the Bills is to play Nickel, getting another Safety/Corner onto the field and thus hoping Star L makes the difference in plugging the run game.

 

Is this the game where we see Rousseau rush from the interior?

 

 

[Desert Bills Fan]

Weather for Sunday night in KC is 60 % chance of rain, temps in the 60s, and 5 -10 mph winds. Old time football weather!

Edited October 7, 2021 by Desert Bills Fan

[The Wiz]

 

[Rockinon]

Learn from the Ravens and Chargers defenses. They basically used a safety as a spy on Hill. Never allowing him any big plays.

[unbillievable]

The Bills will shut-out the Chiefs; intercepting Mahomes Five times.

It will force Nick Wright to move Buffalo up 1 tier below Kansas City in his power rankings.

 

 

Josh Gordon will distribute his stash. Hill, Kelce and Mahomes play the entire game stoned.