TAinLack. Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Just putting it out there, that group caused a lot of heartburn for us last year. Will Reid devise a new game plan or just repeat what was a successful game plan in 2020? Edited October 4, 2021 by TAinLA spelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Get after Mahomes. There’s no other way. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Probably not. Especially without Milano. Likely need to do what they failed to do in the title game, run the ball successfully, as bills still have no answer for Chiefs front 4. Limit each other's possessions, try to keep the score close in the high 20's. If it turns into a shootout, the Bills O Line will get run over (again) . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Nope. We might as well forfeit the rest of our games, get a higher draft position, and try again next year. 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Most like not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 They have to try to not let Kelce get a free release and chip him to try to disrupt the timing of his routes. Kelce and Hill made it look way too easy last game and they need to somehow pay extra attention to those two guys. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The Bills will have healthier receivers and a healthy Moss this time around, which should help. Nobody keeps KC under 30 at home without the help of turnovers. The Bills need MVP Josh Allen cause they ain’t shutting down KC in KC. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 We need our offense to show that they can score on this Chiefs D. The D has done 'enough' the past two matchups, we need to be confident in scoring points after this game regardless of W or L. Offense will be the story line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 They need to stop playing scared. They've played that way in all of the meetings so far...like McD is scared to go against Daddy Reid 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 If they win this game it will be a 38-35 type of score. The defense is playing well but to hold that offense down especially in Arrowhead is a tough task for anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Don’t play afraid of them. Only thing you must fear is Hill deep. Other than that play aggressive and physical. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Don't know why the poster is getting eye rolls, seems like a fair question. I think the Chiefs are getting close to having our number, just as we do with the phins. I had this down as a loss before the season and still do now, though I do think we'll take them in the playoffs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: Probably not. Especially without Milano. Likely need to do what they failed to do in the title game, run the ball successfully, as bills still have no answer for Chiefs front 4. Limit each other's possessions, try to keep the score close in the high 20's. If it turns into a shootout, the Bills O Line will get run over (again) . It is sure going to hurt if Milano is out. Beyond that I also agree about needing to run the ball effectively. The Bills are built to have shootouts with teams like KC and that’s not optimal to say the least. Edited October 4, 2021 by BarleyNY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 We pay Tre White as a top CB to follow players like Hill and try and shut them down. If White cannot cover Hill why is he paid as a top 3 CB. It all comes down to White vs Hill and our pass rush. I have a feeling that we are going to win this game. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 A lot of armchair analysts saying don't be scared, and then explaining why to be scared. LMAO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, TAinLA said: Just putting it out there, that group caused a lot of heartburn for us last year. Will Reid devise a new game plan or just repeat what was a successful game plan in 2020? If Frazier decides to play passive and not go after Mahomes in the pocket then he will rip them apart on Sunday. Not suggesting we blitz on every down but we do need to throw in some blitz packages and get a few sacks & hits on him. You cannot allow him to sit back there and get comfortable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: If Frazier decides to play passive and not go after Mahomes in the pocket then he will rip them apart on Sunday. Not suggesting we blitz on every down but we do need to throw in some blitz packages and get a few sacks & hits on him. You cannot allow him to sit back there and get comfortable The Bills need to get to him with their front 4. Its a big reason why the Giants were able to take down the evil empire twice on the biggest stage. Same for the Bucs beating the Chiefs in last year's Super Bowl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Bucs showed the blueprint in the Superbowl. Double Kelce and Hill and pressure Mahomes. If they lose doing that so be it. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) also when the Ravens beat the Chefs two weeks ago, they delayed some blitzes as Mahomes is very effective with feeling the first wave of pressure, avoiding it, and throwing on the move, a key play was made on a delayed blitz leading to a pick on the play, I know McD loves his delayed blitzes as well, here's to a better pass rush and overall better gameplan and most important better execution than the last 2-3 times... Edited October 4, 2021 by First Round Bust 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Safe bet is no. You will need to score at least 30 to beat this Chiefs team. There is no other way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: We pay Tre White as a top CB to follow players like Hill and try and shut them down. If White cannot cover Hill why is he paid as a top 3 CB. It all comes down to White vs Hill and our pass rush. I have a feeling that we are going to win this game. I mean i hope so but he cant do that in zone like he has been asked previously. That has to be a conscious decision by McD up to this point. I dont think your point is totally fair, being asked to lockdown Hill is something every nfl CB is going to struggle with no matter who it is. dudes a serious weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Probably not. The bigger question will be if the offense has a good showing after two duds against them last year. This Chiefs team is NOT good defensively. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Beating Chiefs at Arrowhead will put the whole world on notice. KC is a monkey on Josh's back, that he will throw over the mountains. Josh has the D, offensive play makers galore, and he must be sicker of Mahomes, Mahomes GF and Brother, KC than me. Rock on Josh, go show the world! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 What about Josh Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: What about Josh Gordon? My hope is that he gets high with Mahomes and Hill before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Get after Mahomes. There’s no other way. More specifically, Defensive ends need to maintain outside containment to keep Mahomes trapped in the pocket and get pressure up the middle. They must not give Kelce a free release off the line (be physical with him) and mess up the timing of their short and intermediate passing game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, TAinLA said: Just putting it out there, that group caused a lot of heartburn for us last year. Will Reid devise a new game plan or just repeat what was a successful game plan in 2020? I'm sure both Reid's and McDermott's plans will change as keep doing same thing will be learned and adjusted for on both sides. The best way to defend the Chiefs is keep their offense off the field. Hopefully we can see slow things down with our offense and score TDs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: We pay Tre White as a top CB to follow players like Hill and try and shut them down. If White cannot cover Hill why is he paid as a top 3 CB. It all comes down to White vs Hill and our pass rush. I have a feeling that we are going to win this game. Nobody with any football wisdom is going to try to cover Hill one on one for an entire game. There may be an occasion where a DC will gamble and do it when running a blitz package. For the most part we will see, a straight zone, a match-up zone, man coverage with a safety in zone over the top, or a straight up double team man coverage. McD will keep it changing throughout the game. If they are going to give Hill extra coverage using two defenders, White may be used to shutdown either Kelce or the second wide receiver by himself. We have already seen White on Hill one on one and it ended poorly. McD won't head down that road again IMHO. I agree with you that Buffalo has a good chance to win the game. I believe that it has more to do with how bad the KC defense is and less about how good their offence can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Have tre shadow hill. roll the coverage to kelce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 No, we just have to win this shoot out. We have to score north of 33 to win this game IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, TAinLA said: Just putting it out there, that group caused a lot of heartburn for us last year. Will Reid devise a new game plan or just repeat what was a successful game plan in 2020? Pressure Mahomes. That is why we did what we did in the offseason. Now we see if it was enough 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I'm not sure what the Bills were trying to do last year in the AFC Championship Game defensively. It's no disrespect to White or any other Bills corner to get help for Tyreke Hill. If you have to press and then double with another player, then it has to be done. I know that leaves Kelce one on one, and opens you up to Hardman, but what other choice do the Bills have? The Chiefs are not deep seemingly. It's Kelce-Mahomes-Hill. I don't think you can limit Mahomes, and Hill has the ability to go nuclear. I think you have to sell out to stop him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 If Milano is playing, maybe if Milano isn’t playing, doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, First Round Bust said: also when the Ravens beat the Chefs two weeks ago, they delayed some blitzes as Mahomes is very effective with feeling the first wave of pressure, avoiding it, and throwing on the move, a key play was made on a delayed blitz leading to a pick on the play, I know McD loves his delayed blitzes as well, here's to a better pass rush and overall better gameplan and most important better execution than the last 2-3 times... interesting. at least Milano’s replacement Klein appears to be a good blitzer. I think I’ve seen him kn a few delayed blitzes also we have to okay more physical, period, both on offense at OL and the WR’s releasing, as well as hitting their WR/TE’s to throw off timing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 hours ago, TAinLA said: Just putting it out there, that group caused a lot of heartburn for us last year. Will Reid devise a new game plan or just repeat what was a successful game plan in 2020? I don’t think the answer is to shut down KC. No one has really been able to do it. The Bills need to outscore them. I think they’ll move the ball like they did in the AFCCG but they can’t settle for FG’s when they get close. The difference could be in the Buffalo run/screen game against a KC defense which has been hashed quite a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 One thing we will find out is if this defense is for real or if it is a mirage. We have played 3 BU QBs and played the 20th, 21st, 27th and 30th ranked offenses in the NFL. Granted we have caused those numbers of those teams as well, but this will be the first true test of this defense. Chiefs will get theirs but knowing that I do want to see how the defense fairs against a top end offense. Good gauge early on how ready we are to make a Run. (Knowing there still is many weeks to play) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Probably not. The bigger question will be if the offense has a good showing after two duds against them last year. This Chiefs team is NOT good defensively. What is the big change in their defense from last year to this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What is the big change in their defense from last year to this year? They have a lot of Injuries from what I have read. And move Chris Jones from DT to DE and clearly struggling there. Lack of speed seems to be an issue as well from talking with their fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdmoreRyno Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Not possible to stop Hill. At least that's what it's like on Madden' Dude breaks free by 10 yards every damn play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Probably not. Especially without Milano. Likely need to do what they failed to do in the title game, run the ball successfully, as bills still have no answer for Chiefs front 4. Limit each other's possessions, try to keep the score close in the high 20's. If it turns into a shootout, the Bills O Line will get run over (again) . I'm still very suspicious of the chiefs defensive performance in the afc championship game lol they got away with a ton of holds not to mention all our receivers had serious injuries. Felt like they had a ton of 'coverage sacks' from their questionably tight coverage 🤣 refs in the super bowl weren't having it. From the looks of it refs this year aren't having it either. Their dline has been pretty awful this year as well 3 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Not possible to stop Hill. At least that's what it's like on Madden' Dude breaks free by 10 yards every damn play. Yea theyre pretty much unstoppable on offense between the 20s and we just have to tighten up in the red zone where their ability to stretch the field isn't as important Edited October 4, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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