Big Turk Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Said they are ready to talk turkey about what is going to happen with the stadium...either roughly $1B for a new stadium or $530 million for renovations to Highmark Stadium(yuck). https://www.sfgate.com/sports/amp/Bills-set-to-open-stadium-talks-with-state-local-16065165.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Renovate Hallmark. I am not copacetic with the increase in property taxes that would come with a new stadium. I bought my house in 2016 then experienced an immediate 8% jump in my mortgage. I'd like to avoid another soaking. 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Build new. 65,000 seat dome. Location will be the question. 1 minute ago, boater said: Renovate Hallmark. I am not copacetic with the increase in property taxes that would come with a new stadium. I bought my house in 2016 then experienced an immediate 8% jump in my mortgage. I'd like to avoid another soaking. There is literally no point to renovate. It's a waste of time and money. Build new or leave it alone. 12 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Build new. 65,000 seat dome. Location will be the question. There is literally no point to renovate. It's a waste of time and money. Build new or leave it alone. Leave it alone! We have a winner. Thank you for playing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 58 minutes ago, boater said: Leave it alone! We have a winner. Thank you for playing. I don't think they have much choice. I believe the NFL is pushing hard for them to get a more modern stadium. So the question is should the team move or should they get get a new stadium/update the existing? There is no option C. "leave it alone". 12 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 If they're going to build a new stadium, I hope it stays in Orchard Park. I can't remember which team's new stadium it was (Pittsburgh? Houston?), but they just built it on what used to be the parking lot of the old stadium, and turned the site of the old stadium into the new parking lot. I'm all for whatever it takes to keep the Bills in Buffalo long term, but game days sure would lose a lot of their charm and what makes them special if the stadium left Orchard Park for downtown Buffalo. Having been to away games in city centers, I can say that the Bills game day experience is much, much, MUCH more fun and unique and special. Keep the Bills in Orchard Park. 13 1 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Whatever keeps the team in Buffalo. I'd prefer a dome right next to where the stadium is now (preserves tailgating) as I've become less weather tolerant over the years. Plus, I prefer optimal weather in every game so the more talented team that executes the best wins. Something tells me they'll go with the cheapest option though and renovate the current stadium like they did Lambeau and Arrowhead. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I don't think they have much choice. I believe the NFL is pushing hard for them to get a more modern stadium. So the question is should the team move or should they get get a new stadium/update the existing? There is no option C. "leave it alone". So only one option than... New stadium. NFL wants NEW! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 We’re at the crossroads. There’s no question about that. But it’s not the end of the world. You can get it done. You can get it done. What’s more....you got to get it done! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) My vote: New Dome right beside Hammer's Lot. Edited March 31, 2021 by CSBill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I don't think they have much choice. I believe the NFL is pushing hard for them to get a more modern stadium. So the question is should the team move or should they get get a new stadium/update the existing? There is no option C. "leave it alone". Pretty much. I'm sure it gets done. I can't imagine the Bills putting $600 million into the current stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Personally, I love the sight lines of Rich as well as the location. I also love the tailgating and ticket prices. Should they build new all of that will radically change which isn’t appealing to me. The flip side is I hate the weather in the latter part of the year...I’m not 20 anymore. With all of that being said I lean towards keeping Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Beast said: We’re at the crossroads. No, that's where the hockey arena went. But since there's not a professional team using it, you might bulldoze and build a football stadium there... * 😇😁 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just build the Downtown Dome and be done with this already. It really isn’t that hard. 10 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) It annoys me that the NFL keeps pushing for a new stadium or renovations. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our stadium. It is an old stadium but is very well taken care of and still looks great. It's funny, Lambeau Field is older than our stadium, Soldier Field is older than our stadium but the NFL never bugs them about going new Edited March 31, 2021 by Buffalo03 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I think itll be a roofed stadium down town. Id love for it to be retractable somehow but I wouldnt hold out hope because of cost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Logic said: If they're going to build a new stadium, I hope it stays in Orchard Park. I can't remember which team's new stadium it was (Pittsburgh? Houston?), but they just built it on what used to be the parking lot of the old stadium, and turned the site of the old stadium into the new parking lot. I'm all for whatever it takes to keep the Bills in Buffalo long term, but game days sure would lose a lot of their charm and what makes them special if the stadium left Orchard Park for downtown Buffalo. Having been to away games in city centers, I can say that the Bills game day experience is much, much, MUCH more fun and unique and special. Keep the Bills in Orchard Park. They did this in Atlanta with the old Fulton County stadium. The Olympic Stadium was built next door, then renovated for the Braves. The city also did it with the Mercedes Benz and old Georgia Dome. I vote to build the new stadium downtown right by the water where the Sabres play. There is a ton of land and would bring Buffalo all the way back to glory. Now if some people don’t want that, I understand. I ask why? Taxes going up? Don’t want the stadium near where you live? concern about a change of traditions and new place to tailgate? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 If they build new at the current location, there's the family that has the graveyard right in the middle of the OP Location. The original plan for Rich/Ralph/New Highmark stadium was to have the sidelines where the end zones are now. They needed to move the cemetery on the property. The family who owns the cemetary gave a flat out no. Just another kink into building where it is now. I would prefer a Downtown location (without a family cemetery on the property). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Drill a well Terry. Pay for it yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 The team plays better in controlled environments and your now a passing team with a QB who will be around 10 more years hopefully. Build a dome 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Dome people put ranch on their wings. 2 1 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 8 hours ago, boater said: Renovate Hallmark. I am not copacetic with the increase in property taxes that would come with a new stadium. I bought my house in 2016 then experienced an immediate 8% jump in my mortgage. I'd like to avoid another soaking. Your house value has probably nearly doubled in that time...which more than offsets it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Gotta build new. No more renovations! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, TBBills said: So only one option than... New stadium. NFL wants NEW! Doesn't matter. They can't force them to do that. Ultimately it's their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, boater said: Renovate Hallmark. I am not copacetic with the increase in property taxes that would come with a new stadium. I bought my house in 2016 then experienced an immediate 8% jump in my mortgage. I'd like to avoid another soaking. did your taxes just get adjusted to what you bought the house for? Edited March 31, 2021 by teef 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Doesn't matter. They can't force them to do that. Ultimately it's their decision. they can indirectly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 FAKE NEWS!!! FAKE NEWS, people!!! There was an EXTREMELY credible poster on this board who said he was taking his shovel to break ground on this long ago. What are we, in a time warp? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Renovate the Ralph. A billion dollar stadium will drive ticket prices sky high and bring PSLs into the picture. the area cannot afford that, the whole vibe will change forever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) A while ago many of us completed a survey by PSE soliciting fan input as to a new stadium - my vote was to stay in OP: new, rebuild, whatever. Love to know the results of the survey.... Edited March 31, 2021 by Commish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 New stadiums aren't always better. As a long time Jets season ticket holder( I am a Bills fan though) I prefer Giants Stadium over MetLife. The only advantage MetLife offers is wider concourses and trips to the bathroom go much faster. That's it. What I was paying for at Giants Stadium was $1700 for everything. At MetLife its $3700 for everything including PSL fee. You know how they say **** runs down hill. Guess who is at the bottom of the hill. The Johnson's and the Mara's aren't paying for MetLife and the Pegula's won't be paying for a new stadium either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: It annoys me that the NFL keeps pushing for new or renovations. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our stadium. It is an old stadium but is very well taken care of and still looks great. It's funny, Lambeau Field is older than our stadium, Soldier Field is older than our stadium but the NFL never bugs them about going new They both were renovated somewhat recently lol. Edited March 31, 2021 by Not at the table Karlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Renovate the Ralph. A billion dollar stadium will drive ticket prices sky high and bring PSLs into the picture. the area cannot afford that, the whole vibe will change forever I don't know where they get $1 billion from. I remember reading that stadium report. A new stadium wasn't that much more than renovation because the way the current stadium is built. Here is a link to the report from 2015. Quote The study estimates the cost of the Cobblestone domed stadium to be $787.6 million. A similar stadium at the Exchange Street site would cost $784.6 million, while a domed facility at South Park would cost $911.9 million, due in large part to the higher site development costs there. Building an open-air stadium at either Exchange Street or South Park would reduce those costs by $188.6 million. Meanwhile, renovating Ralph Wilson Stadium to modern NFL standards would cost $554.9 million, thanks largely to the fact that much of the seating bowl would probably have to be replaced. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/state-study-focuses-on-three-buffalo-sites-for-bills-stadium-as-well-as-the-ralph/article_236b9be2-2a6e-562b-a5d6-71be1c504179.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Where is Dunkirk Don when you need him the most. Connect the dots and follow the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Renovate the Ralph. A billion dollar stadium will drive ticket prices sky high and bring PSLs into the picture. the area cannot afford that, the whole vibe will change forever They are already in the picture. There is a PSL fee on my current club seats. Edited March 31, 2021 by Mr Info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: The team plays better in controlled environments and your now a passing team with a QB who will be around 10 more years hopefully. Build a dome Only one problem...half of those 10 years would be spent arguing about the site, the financing and construction issues. A new stadium is at least 5 years away. That being said, I have been and remain in the “downtown dome” camp for years now. Edited March 31, 2021 by BTB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: They both were renovated somewhat recently lol. Yes, renovated but you never hear stories about the NFL pushing for new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just copy and paste Lucas Oil stadium in downtown Buffalo. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BTB said: Only one problem...half of those 10 years would be spent arguing about the site, the financing and construction issues. A new stadium is at least 5 years away. That being said, I have been and remain in the “downtown dome” camp for years now. I'm pretty sure they know exactly what they want and where. Funding discussions probably take up most of the next couple years. We'll be in a new stadium before Josh Allen turns 30. They've already been doing this research for nearly a decade. Edited March 31, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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