JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The team that lost to the Chiefs in week 6 is very different than the one that goes to KC on Sunday, and this makes me very optimistic about how this one will turn out. 1. Situation This game was our 2nd in a row to be moved due to covid, and was played on a short week at 5 PM (following a game played 7PM on TUESDAY). Conversely the Chiefs had 8 days to prepare. This was also the week that COVID hit our roster, with most of our TEs being placed on the covid reserve list. 2. Injuries - Josh Allen hurt his non-throwing shoulder in the week 4 win over the Raiders. He only missed 1 play, but I am convinced he was hurt worse than was let on. The 2 games that immediately followed: Game Completions Attempts Yards TDs INTs Tennessee 26 41 263 2 2 KC 14 27 122 2 1 Other injured or impaired starters included John Brown, Matt Milano, Levi Wallace, Tremaine Edmunds and Jon Feliciano. AJ Klein had not yet gotten up to speed on the defense. 3. Schemes On both offense and defense we were still figuring out who was doing what with who. Especially defense. So this week WE have the extra day to rest/prepare. We are as healthy as we've been all year. The offensive and defensive rosters have all settled in and are well aware of their schemes and roles which are being executed at a high level. 9 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Another piece to account for is Harrison Phillips. He played his best game since the injury against the Ravens. 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: Another piece to account for is Harrison Phillips. He played his best game since the injury against the Ravens. I noticed that as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Early season wins and losses are just that. early. Holds true for both teams. The teams facing off on Sunday are much better versions of themselves from earlier in the season. The Bills will be better. The Chiefs will be better. The schemes are likely to be different. The Chiefs out coached the Bills in that game. Plain and simple. How Buffalo adjusts defensively will be interesting to watch. Things I like. 1. Bills 8 days between games, Chiefs 7. 2. Mahomes not being able to practice for some if not all of this week. 3. Mahomes has an unhappy toe 4. Bills ST 5. Bills DBs are taking the ball to the house Things I don't like. 1. Bills running game is all but abandoned. 2. Bills WRs all seem to be nursing something. 3. Road game with crowd noise 4. An entire week of Will they Mahomes or Won't they Mahomes.. As if there is nothing else to talk about. 5. Chiefs DLine creating genuine pressure on the QB. Things I'm neutral on. 1. Weather. 2. Place kickers. Both will be kicking for their superbowl lives 3. Head Coaches. Feels like a push. Good staffs on both teams. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: The team that lost to the Chiefs in week 6 is very different than the one that goes to KC on Sunday, and this makes me very optimistic about how this one will turn out. 1. Situation This game was our 2nd in a row to be moved due to covid, and was played on a short week at 5 PM (following a game played 7PM on TUESDAY). Conversely the Chiefs had 8 days to prepare. This was also the week that COVID hit our roster, with most of our TEs being placed on the covid reserve list. 2. Injuries - Josh Allen hurt his non-throwing shoulder in the week 4 win over the Raiders. He only missed 1 play, but I am convinced he was hurt worse than was let on. The 2 games that immediately followed: Game Completions Attempts Yards TDs INTs Tennessee 26 41 263 2 2 KC 14 27 122 2 1 Other injured or impaired starters included John Brown, Matt Milano, Levi Wallace, Tremaine Edmunds and Jon Feliciano. AJ Klein had not yet gotten up to speed on the defense. 3. Schemes On both offense and defense we were still figuring out who was doing what with who. Especially defense. So this week WE have the extra day to rest/prepare. We are as healthy as we've been all year. The offensive and defensive rosters have all settled in and are well aware of their schemes and roles which are being executed at a high level. The only small point of disagreement is that our WR corps is not 100% healthy with Beasley being the worst off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Count on Andy Reid dishing up a completely different game plan relative to the Week 6 game. We'll see all new play designs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Josh on Sunday 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, H2o said: Josh on Sunday yeah but yeah t didn’t end well for him IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It’s different because we don’t have ten plus D starters and pack ups out or playing injured, it’s different because our QB isn’t in a shoulder harness from a separated shoulder. It’s different because their QB is injured with turf toe and a recent concussion..., I could go on, but I think y’all get the idea... Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 the health of our WR's is my number one concern. We also need a run game, I think daboll puts it in here. The question is: if this staff does not trust Yeldon (he had fumble issues at one point?), then will they play Williams, or just roll with Singletary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: the health of our WR's is my number one concern. We also need a run game, I think daboll puts it in here. The question is: if this staff does not trust Yeldon (he had fumble issues at one point?), then will they play Williams, or just roll with Singletary. Which makes one wonder if Stills and/or Freeman will be put on the active roster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: The team that lost to the Chiefs in week 6 is very different than the one that goes to KC on Sunday, and this makes me very optimistic about how this one will turn out. 1. Situation This game was our 2nd in a row to be moved due to covid, and was played on a short week at 5 PM (following a game played 7PM on TUESDAY). Conversely the Chiefs had 8 days to prepare. This was also the week that COVID hit our roster, with most of our TEs being placed on the covid reserve list. 2. Injuries - Josh Allen hurt his non-throwing shoulder in the week 4 win over the Raiders. He only missed 1 play, but I am convinced he was hurt worse than was let on. The 2 games that immediately followed: Game Completions Attempts Yards TDs INTs Tennessee 26 41 263 2 2 KC 14 27 122 2 1 Other injured or impaired starters included John Brown, Matt Milano, Levi Wallace, Tremaine Edmunds and Jon Feliciano. AJ Klein had not yet gotten up to speed on the defense. 3. Schemes On both offense and defense we were still figuring out who was doing what with who. Especially defense. So this week WE have the extra day to rest/prepare. We are as healthy as we've been all year. The offensive and defensive rosters have all settled in and are well aware of their schemes and roles which are being executed at a high level. When I re-watched the Week 6 highlights, I couldn’t even recognize the Bills. The offensive Sets looked dramatically different. The playcalling was very different, on both sides of the ball, but especially on O. And the personnel looked different too. I am not sure who all was injured, but Josh Norman seemed to get a ton of snaps (maybe Levi was out), and the D-line rotation was different. I think this game will look nothing like the first time around. I think both teams will figure out ways to throw the ball a lot more. And there is no chance the chiefs run the ball as much or as effectively. The Bills scheme and personnel is a lot better. Not saying they will shut CEH down— but he is not going to have gaping holes every play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Another thing is CEH, who gashed them for 161 yards at 6.2 YPC will be out or not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 What gives me hope is the Chiefs didn’t as much beat the Browns but rather they survived the Browns. Call it rust or call it ennui, they sure as heck didn’t look invincible. 1 minute ago, Doc said: Another thing is CEH, who gashed them for 161 yards at 6.2 YPC will be out or not 100%. I think he practiced all last week. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t a go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, wjag said: I think he practiced all last week. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t a go. He didn't play. He'll be limited if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On paper here is the tale of the tape: Offense Buf = KC Defense Buf = KC ST Buf > KC Coaching Buf < KC Home field Buf < KC Bills will need to have a dominant defensive performance. Bills offense must finish drives with points and find yards and first downs to win time of possession. Josh Allen and the O must protect the football and leave the Chiefs with no short fields and gimme points. ST must make more plays and this must be huge. Coaching this must be a game where we go in with great scheme/plan and have a backup counter. 4th down, trick plays, the whole 9 yards. Bille Mafia gotta find some of the 16,000 tickets, we will need at least 1,000-4,000 fans if possible. If not, we must grab an early lead and take the crowd out of it. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 This time WE get the extra rest, albeit 1 day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: yeah but yeah t didn’t end well for him IIRC Technically he did win and the avengers ended up beating the younger version of him (similar to week 6 Josh). Avengers cheated. We ain't playing the pats so there's that. Edited January 20, 2021 by The Wiz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: On paper here is the tale of the tape: Offense Buf = KC Defense Buf = KC Defense Buf > KC ST Buf > KC Coaching Buf < KC Coaching Buf = KC Home field Buf < KC Bills will need to have a dominant solid defensive performance. Bills offense must finish drives with points and find yards and first downs to win time of possession. Josh Allen and the O must protect the football and leave the Chiefs with no short fields and gimme points. ST must make more plays and this must be huge. Hyperbole Coaching this must be a game where we go in with great scheme/plan and have a backup counter. 4th down, trick plays, the whole 9 yards. We only need to play good football, not think in terms of desperation. Bille Mafia gotta find some of the 16,000 tickets, we will need at least 1,000-4,000 fans if possible. If not, we must grab an early lead and take the crowd out of it. Bills Mafia is irrelevant here. The Bills quality of play will not be affected by the crowd. Go Bills! I appreciate your breakdown and the thought you put into it. I think differently. I do not believe that “special things” need to happen for the Bills to prevail. I believe we can win simply by playing good, disciplined football. The past 12 weeks show how good we are. The Chiefs are neither scary nor superior. In fact, they should be anxious about Sunday’s game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ganesh Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: On paper here is the tale of the tape: Offense Buf = KC Defense Buf = KC ST Buf > KC Coaching Buf < KC Home field Buf < KC MOMENTUM Buf >>>> KC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: The team that lost to the Chiefs in week 6 is very different than the one that goes to KC on Sunday, and this makes me very optimistic about how this one will turn out. 1. Situation This game was our 2nd in a row to be moved due to covid, and was played on a short week at 5 PM (following a game played 7PM on TUESDAY). Conversely the Chiefs had 8 days to prepare. This was also the week that COVID hit our roster, with most of our TEs being placed on the covid reserve list. 2. Injuries - Josh Allen hurt his non-throwing shoulder in the week 4 win over the Raiders. He only missed 1 play, but I am convinced he was hurt worse than was let on. The 2 games that immediately followed: Game Completions Attempts Yards TDs INTs Tennessee 26 41 263 2 2 KC 14 27 122 2 1 Other injured or impaired starters included John Brown, Matt Milano, Levi Wallace, Tremaine Edmunds and Jon Feliciano. AJ Klein had not yet gotten up to speed on the defense. 3. Schemes On both offense and defense we were still figuring out who was doing what with who. Especially defense. So this week WE have the extra day to rest/prepare. We are as healthy as we've been all year. The offensive and defensive rosters have all settled in and are well aware of their schemes and roles which are being executed at a high level. 👍 I like our chances too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 All the two about no run game all the talk about our defense wait hold up - before last week what was the talk? ohhhh that’s right - “red hot Lamar jacksonnnn gonna light up buffalo!!!!!” poof 3 points i laugh all day at these “ohhh wow Kansas City looked good last week - effortless when Mahomes was in...” it was Cleveland !!! And before you give me “oh they are a good team” no not their not. They beat the crappy Steelers and had a terrible points for and against all year. They were lucky to be in. so for the chiefs to March up and down the field on Cleveland - sorry not impressed mahomes and KC looked effective against mediocrity - but just like last week ? That’s right this is going to be the best defense They have faced in at least 8 weeks. and they have played TERRIBLE football - definitely beatable ball since about october just like last week everyone is going to be making the “whhattt is this?” Face when buffalo proves to be the more dominant team one the field - “oh it’s because pat isn’t 110#!!!!” not it’s just because - I’ll say it - buffalo is the better team - PERIOD! buffalo 34-24 and it won’t be close after the third - late TD playing prevent go bills and gonna get that championship this year! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Doc said: Another thing is CEH, who gashed them for 161 yards at 6.2 YPC will be out or not 100%. Any RB in the NFL would have gashed us week 6, CEH wasn't getting touched at the line of scrimmage the entire game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, H2o said: Josh on Sunday But at what cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, H2o said: Josh on Sunday You know how that story ended, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Matt Milano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I want to win this game so badly. I just hope we don't get steam rolled. There wouldn't be a bigger let down than going in there and getting obliterated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: You know how that story ended, right? Fake News. Thanos won in a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Health on defense is the biggest issue. White and Edmunds were still banged up, Milano was out and I think Wallace was out too if memory serves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Health on defense is the biggest issue. White and Edmunds were still banged up, Milano was out and I think Wallace was out too if memory serves. Not to mention a lot of the new defensive linemen were somewhat new to each other and were still figuring how to play with each other as a unit. The team defense looks much different now than it did then. With the exception of the Colts game, ever since the Arizona game the defense has consistently been a top 8 unit in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 15 hours ago, SCBills said: Another piece to account for is Harrison Phillips. He played his best game since the injury against the Ravens. Dude balled out against the ravens win butler got hurt on that first drive and Philip’s came in it all changed from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: I want to win this game so badly. I just hope we don't get steam rolled. There wouldn't be a bigger let down than going in there and getting obliterated Hopefully not...This is the playoffs...Teams are matched up a lot more equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: On paper here is the tale of the tape: Offense Buf = KC Defense Buf = KC ST Buf > KC Coaching Buf < KC Home field Buf < KC Bills will need to have a dominant defensive performance. Bills offense must finish drives with points and find yards and first downs to win time of possession. Josh Allen and the O must protect the football and leave the Chiefs with no short fields and gimme points. ST must make more plays and this must be huge. Coaching this must be a game where we go in with great scheme/plan and have a backup counter. 4th down, trick plays, the whole 9 yards. Bille Mafia gotta find some of the 16,000 tickets, we will need at least 1,000-4,000 fans if possible. If not, we must grab an early lead and take the crowd out of it. Go Bills! I think McDemott will have to be aggressive go for some 4 downs because as we seen if you think Andy Reid want put you away think again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I was very interested in seeing how Kansas City came out Sunday against the Browns. Despite their 14-2 record, the Chiefs have been barely squeaking by over the last 2+ months. Each week they go through long stretches where they seem out of sync, and struggle to put points on the board. For a team that has a reputation for being "totally unstoppable" on offense, they haven't managed a double-digit victory since November 1st (against the Jets). My initial thought was that maybe the Chiefs were just coasting through games, and could pretty much turn it on whenever necessary. Once they hit the postseason, they would start rolling again. But even in the Divisional Playoff round, they started very strong... then started settling for field goals, and gradually let the Browns back into the game. That was before Patrick Mahomes went out of the game, so no excuses there. No doubt the Chiefs are currently among the top 3 teams in the NFL (along with the Bills and Packers). And they have a great chance of repeating as Super Bowl Champions. But I don't agree with the idea that Kansas City is in some kind of elite tier over the rest of the NFL. Just a few weeks ago, they struggled badly to defeat the 4-12 Atlanta Falcons. I'm 100% convinced that Josh Allen's "slump" during weeks 5-8 was due to his shoulder injury (which got almost no attention from the media). The Bills have also done much better against the run since Matt Milano returned, and Tremaine Edmunds healed up. The Bills have improved drastically as a team since that game in Week 6, while the Chiefs have seemingly gone the opposite direction. Don't forget that Andy Reid also has a 2-5 record in conference championship games. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, wjag said: Early season wins and losses are just that. early. Holds true for both teams. The teams facing off on Sunday are much better versions of themselves from earlier in the season. The Bills will be better. The Chiefs will be better. The schemes are likely to be different. The Chiefs out coached the Bills in that game. Plain and simple. How Buffalo adjusts defensively will be interesting to watch. Things I like. 1. Bills 8 days between games, Chiefs 7. 2. Mahomes not being able to practice for some if not all of this week. 3. Mahomes has an unhappy toe 4. Bills ST 5. Bills DBs are taking the ball to the house Things I don't like. 1. Bills running game is all but abandoned. 2. Bills WRs all seem to be nursing something. 3. Road game with crowd noise 4. An entire week of Will they Mahomes or Won't they Mahomes.. As if there is nothing else to talk about. 5. Chiefs DLine creating genuine pressure on the QB. Things I'm neutral on. 1. Weather. 2. Place kickers. Both will be kicking for their superbowl lives 3. Head Coaches. Feels like a push. Good staffs on both teams. Why worry about the running game? We haven’t really run the ball all year and we went what 13-3? That’s not who we are anymore. We are a pass first team, and teams know that. Nothing to be ashamed of. Edited January 20, 2021 by Nick the Greek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Nick the Greek said: Why worry about the running game? We haven’t really run the ball all year and we went what 13-3? That’s not who we are anymore. We are a pass first team, and teams know that. Nothing to be ashamed of. It would make the RPO more effective. It would give our WRs a chance to drop/get a step on the DBs. We just saw a 3 point half. And then a TD drive when they mixed in some runs. I'm not suggesting 30 carries, but 12-15 would be nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 19 hours ago, wjag said: call it ennui I never thought football and ennui could be used in the same graph, but somehow you sensibly pulled it off. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 22 hours ago, wjag said: Early season wins and losses are just that. early. Holds true for both teams. The teams facing off on Sunday are much better versions of themselves from earlier in the season. The Bills will be better. The Chiefs will be better. The schemes are likely to be different. The Chiefs out coached the Bills in that game. Plain and simple. How Buffalo adjusts defensively will be interesting to watch. Things I like. 1. Bills 8 days between games, Chiefs 7. 2. Mahomes not being able to practice for some if not all of this week. 3. Mahomes has an unhappy toe 4. Bills ST 5. Bills DBs are taking the ball to the house Things I don't like. 1. Bills running game is all but abandoned. 2. Bills WRs all seem to be nursing something. 3. Road game with crowd noise 4. An entire week of Will they Mahomes or Won't they Mahomes.. As if there is nothing else to talk about. 5. Chiefs DLine creating genuine pressure on the QB. Things I'm neutral on. 1. Weather. 2. Place kickers. Both will be kicking for their superbowl lives 3. Head Coaches. Feels like a push. Good staffs on both teams. the chiefs have won their last 7-8 games by one score. They aren’t dominant. when buffalo played them they weren’t 100% on defense with many injuries.KC win came down to only a couple of key plays... 1 3rdand long TD pass 2 3rd and long then 4 and a foot conversion that next got them a TD. take away one and hold to a FG it’s still a one score game late. on these and other drives the bills allowed them to convert on 3rd and 8+. They need to stop and force punts. their defense isn’t dominant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said: Any RB in the NFL would have gashed us week 6, CEH wasn't getting touched at the line of scrimmage the entire game. CEH participated in practice today. He will be closer to 100% than you think, as did and will Sammy Watkins. The chiefs are getting healthy for this game and we have banged up receivers. I hope we find a way to grind out a win! go bills!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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