Buffalo4Life01

My biggest hope at this point would be to stay where they are, take Cooper DeJean, who would be outstanding value there, and then trade our 2nd, 2nd round pick along with a few of our day 3 pics to move back into the 36-45 range and there we take the best receiver on our board remaining.

I don't refuse to see any of that. Sure, Worthy might be a bust. It's certainly possible. But at the very least, let's be real about this. With 4.21 speed if all he does is fly down the field on go routes all season, he will move over a safety and open things up even more for everyone else, including Kelce. furthermore, I absolutely think KC would have gotten their man regardless if we would have declined to trade with them. I just hate that we intentionally agreed to trade with the 3 time winning Super Bowl QB and his Kool-aid head coach, Andy Reid. Look man, I'm not trying to be a jerk or to pick a fight with you. Let's just agree to disagree. I hope I am proven wrong and Beane unleashes an amazing plan that starts to unfold today and Buffalo takes over the AFC for years to come!! I'll do my best and I hope you are right. Maybe Beane has a master plan that is about to unfold and it will shock everyone and set us up for great future success. That is always the hope!

I guess because I'm a fan of the team and one of the benefits about being a fan is that I'm allowed to make an opinion or forecast based on my own homework and or my own discretion. I just hate the optics of willingly agreeing to a trade with KC. If that doesn't bother you, then great, that's your opinion. I'm not going to knock you for it. We can agree to disagree. I just have a really bad taste in my mouth right now and It's obvious I'm not alone here.

What are you even talking about right now? I DON'T CARE how the Chiefs don't end up with Worthy, if in some alternative reality they didn't pick him. I don't care who they picked up at that spot. Why are you focusing on the player they selected? I'm not. All I am saying is you DON'T trade with your biggest rival. Who else does that? If you don't think there are a lot of Buffalo Bills players who feel surprised/angry/shocked that we traded with KC, I don't know what to tell you. It's a horrible look for the franchise right now and it continues to align with the narrative that KC is the bully on the block and we can't do/won't do a damn thing about it.

That's not the point. You don't trade with your BIGGEST rival. I don't care what you gain from it. Andy Reid and Mahomes will continue to be our dad and grandad until they both retire, unless we grow some balls and do something about it.

I don't think anyone is hating on him. He is a very good player. I think people, including myself, don't view his position as the biggest need right now, though yes it is a need.

How is not feeling super positive about this draft based on recent history between Buffalo and KC "living in the past"? How confident do you feel about the current regime and their ability and or desire to give Allen the weapons he needs/deserves to contend with KC and the Bengals going forward?

Allen is the main reason we have remained competitive these last 5 years. It's because of him and in spite of the blunders made by Beane and the front office. Say what you want to or feel how you feel, but to me it's obvious our coaching staff and management is lightyears behind KC's. As long as that is the case, we will always be chasing them.

It's also REALITY. How can you possibly look at what has transpired between the Bills and the Chiefs going back to the 2017 draft and not feel the same?

if they do that, I see them trading their pick at 60 and a 4th, maybe a 4th and a 5th to move up closer to 40 or 45 for their wr.

What if we pull the trigger and select Cooper Dejean, which we all know is a REAL possibility. We would then have to trade back up into the 2nd round to have a chance at most of the receivers on that list and there is no guarantee the one/one's they want will still be available. I just don't have a great feeling right now. Hoping Beane has a master plan that will begin to unfold as the day goes on....

no, you most certainly have not. that said, Go Bills!!!

You sure sound like a troll, especially when you get all defensive. I'm sorry if I upset you, lil guy!

Your anti-Allen dribble is quickly becoming tiring. How many times are you going to post the same thought over and over and over? Anyone want to start a poll on banning this troll?

this makes me want to celebrate with a stiff gin and tonic followed by a quick round of pocket pool before a cold shower!! GO BILLS!!!!

Will all due respect, Hill has a career average of 14.1 yards. A true deep threat. Samuel has a career average of 10.7 yards. Much more in line with what you see out of a 'possession receiver'. They are no where close to being the same player.

not THAT is what I'm talking about!!! Let's gooooooooooooo!!

good points!!

I don't want to continue to argue with you about the weather. Yes, of course forecast's change from day to day but OBVIOUSLY the closer you get to the game, the less likely it is to change with any kind of relevancy. This is a football forum where we have the right to discuss these types of things and shouldn't' have to deal with posters like you who call people out and get all bent out of shape about it. If it bothers you that much, why not just ignore these posts and look for something else? We are all Bills fans with differing point of views and that is what makes it so great. The ability to discuss these types of issues without losing our cool or decorum. That said, Go Bills!!

I would love for that to be the case! But this is from the national weather service here which shows a 60% chance of rain showers: Cloudy with occasional rain showers. Low 34F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.

I couldn't agree more. We don't have the power running game and mauling o.line that The bills enjoyed with Thurman Thomas back in the early 90's. That team actually seemed to play better in the rain and snow. We are, at least for the moment, more of a spread you out and beat you with the pass team. Much more of a finesse team than a power team. I'd be fine with a dome.

How is it dumb? Today is Thursday. The game is played in 3 days. The chance for a dramatic weather shift at this point is slim to none. Regarding the rain, as has been pointed out many times now, the Bills played much worse in it that did the Chiefs. I thought that was pretty obvious. Of course the brace effected Allen but I just get the feeling KC plays better in inclement weather. I hope I'm proven wrong. We are fans. We discuss things that impact the game and there is nothing besides injuries that impact the game more besides weather!!

I care because I don't want the damn weather playing a factor in the game. Say what you want about all the injuries we had in the 1st matchup, but the game was played in a downpour for 60% of the game and it was obvious to the casual observer that it effected Allen and the Bills offense a lot more than it did Mahomes and the KC offense.

KC weather not looking good for the game....at least not at the moment... Sun 24 | Night 34° 56% NE 10 mph Cloudy with showers. Low 34F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.

CEH participated in practice today. He will be closer to 100% than you think, as did and will Sammy Watkins. The chiefs are getting healthy for this game and we have banged up receivers. I hope we find a way to grind out a win! go bills!!