Hebert19 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 When we have a lead in the 4th we just crush the clock. Every time. Some of it is creativity from daboll but Moss just seems to put his big boy pants on and run through people to get tough yards and keep clock moving. Anyone else just feel like we could hold the ball as long as we want to close the game. Few weeks back it was 6 min. Then 7 at steelers almost 6 again last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Fresh legs help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He is fine. I don't think he is anything special. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Not saying he's anything special but at the end of the game he closes the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am sort of confused how the run game becomes so dominant in the last 10 minutes when the other team knows we are going to run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am sort of confused how the run game becomes so dominant in the last 10 minutes when the other team knows we are going to run. See my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am sort of confused how the run game becomes so dominant in the last 10 minutes when the other team knows we are going to run. I think with our heavy time of possession, esp yesterday, the defense is fatigued. Plus at the end of these games they are psychologically defeated. Had we kept Allen in passing we could have really run up the score. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Lynch, just had nothing to close. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am sort of confused how the run game becomes so dominant in the last 10 minutes when the other team knows we are going to run. It's quite simple, long drives chasing a mobile QB will wear out any defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Uh....no? Fred Jackson could close out a game...even without fresh legs....in the rare instances they needed to close out a game, that is. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No, not even close. What an overreaction to the pats games this season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No. Clearly not. Shady, Fred, Lynch... I could go on. He's OK, but give me Fred any day. I like Moss, but he doesn't even belong in this conversation. We have 2 pretty good RB's, but thus far neither is a serious probowl candidate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, GreggTX said: No. Clearly not. Shady, Fred, Lynch... I could go on. He's OK, but give me Fred any day. I like Moss, but he doesn't even belong in this conversation. We have 2 pretty good RB's, but thus far neither is a serious probowl candidate. It would be nice to have an upgrade at RB, I agree that they're both pretty good but really nothing special. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 IMHO, I see a resemblance to Joe Cribbs.. sort of the same running style .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 53 minutes ago, MJS said: He is fine. I don't think he is anything special. Exactly. I'm not sold on him, but hey, I'm not going to crap on a great season either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Moss has looked much better than Singletary the past few games in my mind. While Singletary is excellent at making guys miss, he's too slow to consistently get big gains, and he also seems to go down much easier than Moss. Moss is bigger, faster, & a better receiver, I'd love to see what he could do with 20 touches in a playoff game. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 No, Moss is thus far doing okay, we’ve had many better, T Henry, Beast mode, Fred Jackson, Karlos Williams, till he got fat and stupid, etc etc. Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think that our ability to close games with the run has a lot to do with how often we're passing throughout the whole game. Teams can't sell out 100% to stop the run because they know that Daboll will still call pass plays and Josh will still drop dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I couldn’t help but think what it would be like to have FJ in his prime on this team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 What did we do before social media and message boards? I mean I love a good hyperbole just as much as anyone else, but man, with the amount of GOATS, worst players ever, cut him right now, sign this guy because I’ve heard of him...it’s gotten a little out of hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Fred Jackson >>>> Moss right now. That may change, but Moss is still just a rook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, MJS said: He is fine. I don't think he is anything special. Right now he's better than Singletary. Neither back can explode to the hole but I'd give 60% of the touches to Moss. Devin is just so damn slow. It's like watching paint dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Right now he's better than Singletary. Neither back can explode to the hole but I'd give 60% of the touches to Moss. Devin is just so damn slow. It's like watching paint dry. Singletary has become like one of those backs who’d run for two hundred yards against the Bills every year and we’d all say ‘who the heck is that guy’? He’s regressed into mediocrity all season long...so I’m waiting for him to go off in the playoffs. 🤞🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, 947 said: Moss has looked much better than Singletary the past few games in my mind. While Singletary is excellent at making guys miss, he's too slow to consistently get big gains, and he also seems to go down much easier than Moss. Moss is bigger, faster, & a better receiver, I'd love to see what he could do with 20 touches in a playoff game. Singletary has also been pretty awesome picking up the odd free rusher protecting Allen. Both backs seem to be getting well coached in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Hebert19 said: When we have a lead in the 4th we just crush the clock. Every time. Some of it is creativity from daboll but Moss just seems to put his big boy pants on and run through people to get tough yards and keep clock moving. Anyone else just feel like we could hold the ball as long as we want to close the game. Few weeks back it was 6 min. Then 7 at steelers almost 6 again last night. He's averaging 1.17 1st downs and 16.9 yards per 4th Q....so, maybe not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 FredEx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Don Otreply said: No, Moss is thus far doing okay, we’ve had many better, T Henry, Beast mode, Fred Jackson, Karlos Williams, till he got fat and stupid, etc etc. Go Bills!!! Don, can you move, Karlos was in that buffet line. You know he had that glaucoma problem. Vilanch will tell ya. (Just kidding Bruce, but I believe Karlos liked that wacky tabackky a little too much). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Don, can you move, Karlos was in that buffet line. You know he had that glaucoma problem. Vilanch will tell ya. (Just kidding Bruce, but I believe Karlos liked that wacky tabackky a little too much). That’s why he had the munchies all the time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JY422 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: No, not even close. What an overreaction to the pats games this season. 100% on point. since Thurman we’ve had some really good RBs come thru here. Travis Henry, McGahee, Lynch and Freddie could all be considered top shelf “closers” of a much higher caliber than Moss at this point in his career. Give it a year or three and then let’s see if this is a legit discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He's averaging 1.17 1st downs and 16.9 yards per 4th Q....so, maybe not so much. Did I say all season. Said last 3 or 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Moss and Singletary are both productive backs.. Are they elite? By no stretch of the imagination, but it’s better to have two slightly above average backs than one elite one. RBC is by far the best way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The vast majority of the problems in our run game is our run blockers and run blocks and not our run backs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Hebert19 said: When we have a lead in the 4th we just crush the clock. Every time. Some of it is creativity from daboll but Moss just seems to put his big boy pants on and run through people to get tough yards and keep clock moving. Anyone else just feel like we could hold the ball as long as we want to close the game. Few weeks back it was 6 min. Then 7 at steelers almost 6 again last night. I noticed this and was telling a friend...that is what championship caliber teams do. Grind the clock and the teams hopes to dust in the fourth quarter, when leading. The really good ones manage to do it consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Moss and Singletary are both productive backs.. Are they elite? By no stretch of the imagination, but it’s better to have two slightly above average backs than one elite one. I'm gonna have to disagree with that part... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 As far as Moss goes, I like how hard he runs and he has gotten some tough yards, but the play calling and Josh Allen are also contributing quite a bit to the ability to close out games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Travis Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 9 hours ago, bmur66 said: I couldn’t help but think what it would be like to have FJ in his prime on this team We would EASILY be superbowl favorites with a healthy Fred Jackson in his prime. Our offense would be completely unstoppable and win shootouts against the likes of KC and GB 9 times outta 10. Our defense has crept back in the top 10 overall and im sure is top 5 the last 5-6 weeks. Even the most realist of Bills fans would admit we are fans and it would be superbowl or bust. Now, back to reality. Our RB Corp is good but closer to average than great. With our passing game as great as it is...it doesn't even matter. We started out trying to beat the Pats the same way we did the first time. Running the ball down their throats. Belichick was prepared and of course wasn't gonna let that happen so Daboll said ok ***** it then...we'll pass all over your assessment. And thats what happened and we were much more dominant this time around. Bottom line is...imo...we can win with this running game. Its not even close to where anyone can legitimately claime the Bills have to improve in that area to win. Average is good enough for a team with our passing caliber and these backs are skillful enough to easily maintain the minimum average results to contend. Being able to run it against exhausted defenses burned out from chasing around pass catchers all game is priceless and what we do effectively. Its with great honor to be able to confidently declare the Bills as the strongest team entering the playoffs since the superbowl years. And that was pre middle school for me so what a declaration this is! I'm not a homer by any stretch...I'm a true realist I expected it to be our defense to carry us in out next run with an offense that was top 10 but one that would widely be accepted as efficient and not elite. A fringe top 10 offense that could contend with KC cause of our top defense. Wrong! And im loving it! With McD being a defensive minded coach...we should all be SUPER elated to have gotten to this status with the offense leading the way. GREAT THINGS AHEAD BILLS FANS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Do you so easily forget Antowain Smith? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Dont think a 29pt lead is a good close situation when defenses just want the game to end Edited December 30, 2020 by motorj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I think with our heavy time of possession, esp yesterday, the defense is fatigued. Plus at the end of these games they are psychologically defeated. Had we kept Allen in passing we could have really run up the score. I wanted an appropriate reaction emoji and not to have to reply. ...alas, there is no reaction empji for drooling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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