Jerboski Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 What might have been if motor catches the ball, looked like it was setup for a possible td 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Singletary is pissing me off. More drops and easily tackled. Moss should be officially RB1. Not impressed anymore by rebuilt motor. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 He isnt a very good runningback.Ā There was a lot of green and blockers in front of him.Ā Neither runningback is very good. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jerboski said: What might have been if motor catches the ball, looked like it was setup for a possible td Ā I am not sure I thought TD but I thought long gain of 20+ yards... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Motor has been incredibly disappointing. Every week I give him the benefit of the doubtĀ and he just hasn't really shown up yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Needless to say we need a true number one RB 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I think they gotta make a decision on one to get a guy more involved. I agree Singletary does not look like the same guy this year. Seems like Moss can get the tough yards we need more often. I only caught the end of this game though.Ā Ā Itās only recently that Moss has looked like the better runner. He has struggled this year as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 As I recall, the pass could have been a little betterā it was too far out in front of him.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Def would have been a big gainer. He would have had another bigĀ play,Ā if not for Knox penalty. He does seem off this year though, compared to last year. Hope the bye week helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jerboski said: What might have been if motor catches the ball, looked like it was setup for a possible td Yeah, I thought it was 6 the whole way. One of Daboll's best calls of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 RBs are a dime-a-dozen, right? You just plug any late round back in and weāre good, right? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Wasnāt a great pass but he shouldāve caught it. Ā Slow and small is not a good combo. Ā I like Moss better. Ā He brings a more physical element.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 The pass hit him in the worst possible spot, right in the hands.Ā š Ā Singletary is like a manual clutch without the top gear (or two); runs with good torque in the lower gears tho. He should never bounce anything outside. Even mutt LBs close the angle and get to his legs almost every time.Ā Heck, so do edge guys. We've seen it over and over. He should be a one-cut slasher inside and if he can't catch screens he should lose snaps to Moss who has shown very good hands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Ā I am not sure I thought TD but I thought long gain of 20+ yards... It killed a drive and honestly Josh didn't seem that comfortable after that drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 That was a TD, and Iām quickly getting sick of Singletary and his non-exciting ability to do nothing out there.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Alright I'm ready. š Edited November 16, 2020 by Warcodered 1 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: RBs are a dime-a-dozen, right? You just plug any late round back in and weāre good, right? Well he was an early 3rd round pick. I would say thatās a fairĀ investment on RB, especially when you add in mossĀ the next year as well. Ā Singletary just hasnāt performed well enough. Edited November 16, 2020 by BillsFan130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: not sure how this team has regressed so badly in that area with most of the starting oline back and both Dawkins and Williams are having great seasons. Wha? Dawkins and Williams are the only two starters in position and the TE room is a mess too. They are nowhere near their starting 5/6. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, High Football IQ said: Ā My point is that it's the same scheme/offense from last year and a lot of these players were here. Ā I know Felciano has only been back a few weeks and Ford has been hurt/moved to guard but to see such a regression as a whole in terms of the run blocking doesn't make sense especially since the plays haven't changed. Ā They have TWO starters on the OLine playing in position. The interior of that line is gutted with Morse out, Ford out and Mongo out of position. They are moving around every single week because of new injuries, there has been zero continuity all year and they cannot rely on any help from their TE's. Regression is the only realistic outcome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Motor needs a major service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 That dropped pass really hurt. I still think he's shown more than Moss, though Moss is getting closer.Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Motor needs a major service. Ā The Motor isn't the issue, it's the transmission. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I didnt see a lot of holesĀ to run AND the RB get hit once they get the ball, so I believeĀ the problemes are in the OL. Even after said that, I think Singletary and Moss need to hit the holes faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: I think Singletary and Moss are solid players at the position but the bigger issue is the run blocking and not sure how this team has regressed so badly in that area with most of the starting oline back and both Dawkins and Williams are having great seasons. Ā Just seems no matter who we play opposing defense is constantly in the backfield blowing up running plays for negative yards game after game. Ā Yeah...I mean honestly it seems like either there are 3 guys in the backfield tackling us for a 3 yard loss or its a 10 or 15 yard run and nothing in between. No 4 or 5 yard runs to give us good down and distances on a regular basis. Ā Then again I am not sure how much it matters because we seem to want to throw the ball a lot and throw it to our WRs. We have the most WR yardage in the NFL. Edited November 16, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 At some point we need to consider that play-calling tendencies, in-game sequencing, might be to blame for some of the blown-up or walled-off runs. Ā Some of those unsuccessful plays seem dead on arrival, which cannot be blamed on the running back. (Of course, there are also examples where the RBs don't hit it up in there.) Ā Increasingly I'm seeing Daboll as a strong teacher and strategist, but a really inconsistent play-caller. He catches defenses off-guard at times, especially early in games. Tends to stall-out, though,Ā as the game progresses and his counterparts can adjust to his usually brilliant gameplan. When something is working, he often goes to the well once too often.Ā Ā Economists call it diminishing returns, I think.Ā Ā Other times, like today's 2nd half, he seems to abandon important elements of his own offense. (Did the play-action and creativity diminish for a stretch leading up to that last TD drive? The QB draw, I recall,Ā excited me because it wasn't just a traditional drop-back that I felt we'd been calling for a couple drives. Same thing happened last week when the offense was feeling the Seahawks blitz. They get stuck in a rut.)Ā 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Wasnāt a great pass but he shouldāve caught it. Ā Slow and small is not a good combo. Ā I like Moss better. Ā He brings a more physical element.Ā Neither RB is great but Moss is clearly the better back. He attacks the gaps better and doesn't go down easily like 26. And as we keep having this discussion Yeldon sits doing nothing. Unbelievable.Ā 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Run and stop the run. Per Marv. But if a different era, but itās amazing JA can do what heās doing with literally no run game. And while our RBās arenāt take it to the house guys, you canāt blame it on them! Need Morse at C and CF and JF to get this going. Not sustainable. Ā Interior DL is getting manhandled. What the heck. Is Star that great? LBās played pretty darn well today so DL is the issue. Some how despite that it took a miracle to beat us. JA is playing unreal considering. Some badĀ throws but how much should we expect with no run game ?Ā Edited November 16, 2020 by QLBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Neither RB is great but Moss is clearly the better back. He attacks the gaps better and doesn't go down easily like 26. And as we keep having this discussion Yeldon sits doing nothing. Unbelievable.Ā Ā The Yeldon point is mystifying to me as well. He doesn't play special teams, I get it. But neither do #20 or #26 as far as I can see. So why does his apparent effectiveness go unvalued by the coaches/management? (By all means, attack this point with data, please; I am going on naked gameday perception.)Ā 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 OC play calling has been pretty darn good. How did we evolve into a team who canāt run the ball at all! OL run blocking has been atrocious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Neither RB is a star. The line didnāt do much in the run game.Ā Maybe after the bye, the line will be fully healthy for the first time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said: OC play calling has been pretty darn good. How did we evolve into a team who canāt run the ball at all! OL run blocking has been atrocious! Ā We don't have a run game cuz we don't run the football š. Ā 11 handoffs today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Been the biggest disappointment this season. āMy very sad about his development.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He isnt a very good runningback.Ā There was a lot of green and blockers in front of him.Ā Neither runningback is very good. Ā Correct. For two third round picks the production isn't there. They are both complimentary backs for me.Ā Ā We still need a true #1 back with acceleration and speed.Ā 3 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Ā We don't have a run game cuz we don't run the football š. Ā 11 handoffs today. Ā And we don't run the football because when we do so it is so ineffective. It becomes self perpetuating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Before you guys make Singletary the whipping boy he hasnāt gotten many opportunities this season, weāve been a pass happy team. Ā 9, 10, 13, 18, 11, 10, 8, 14, 2 & 4. Thats the amount of carries heās received this season. How does any RB get into a rhythm getting 3-5 carries in a half and sometimes not getting their first carry until the middle of the 2nd quarter. Ā Dabol needs to do a better job of mixing it up some, more of a 60/40 split pass to run ratio instead of 90/10 ratio we have now. We keep teams in the game because we donāt try and grind out some of the clock when weāre up double digits. Once we jump up on a team by double digits letās lean on that running game to shorten the game, we can always go back to full passing mode when we need to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: As I recall, the pass could have been a little betterā it was too far out in front of him.Ā I think this was good placement but would need to see the replay more. Ā On screen passes the an can really help with placement....lead the rb the direction he can go to get yards. Ā Fitz was always good at this. Ā Allen I. The past would just put it on the guy. Ā There is-artĀ to completing a screen pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Before you guys make Singletary the whipping boy he hasnāt gotten many opportunities this season, weāve been a pass happy team. Ā 9, 10, 13, 18, 11, 10, 8, 14, 2 & 4. Thats the amount of carries heās received this season. How does any RB get into a rhythm getting 3-5 carries in a half and sometimes not getting their first carry until the middle of the 2nd quarter. Ā Dabol needs to do a better job of mixing it up some, more of a 60/40 split pass to run ratio instead of 90/10 ratio we have now. We keep teams in the game because we donāt try and grind out some of the clock when weāre up double digits. Once we jump up on a team by double digits letās lean on that running game to shorten the game, we can always go back to full passing mode when we need to. Ā We don't run because we can't run,Ā and because we can't run, we don't run. Ā It isn't all Singletary - although his lack of first step burst was there on his college tape IMO - and it isn't all on Moss. Some of it is the run blocking which has been brutal especially to the right hand side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Ā We don't have a run game cuz we don't run the football š. Ā 11 handoffs today. This is true. Ā The less a team does something, the less successful they probably will be doing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Ā We don't run because we can't run,Ā and because we can't run, we don't run. Ā It isn't all Singletary - although his lack of first step burst was there on his college tape IMO - and it isn't all on Moss. Some of it is the run blocking which has been brutal especially to the right hand side. Brian Winters is a liability on the offensive line. Boettger/Bates>Winters. TJ Yeldon is a mystery to me as well. Former starting RB at Bama and Jags with production at both places. McDermott's player analysis is puzzling to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Jerboski said: What might have been if motor catches the ball, looked like it was setup for a possible td Singeltary is not a #1 RB,Ā not just that play but the deadball PF killed us.Ā I have said all season ,Ā this guy is too slow & small for the NFL.Ā His jukes may have worked in college but it's not happening in the pros.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Getting Morse back and Feliciano back at G will make a huge difference in the run gameĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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