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9 hours ago, Utah John said:

With only Kroft at TE, the running game is not likely to be effective, again.  It will be up to the passing game to win.  The offense really misses John Brown.  What's much worse, though, is that Josh Allen seems to have forgotten all the good things he learned in the offseason about footwork.  The past two games, he's been jumpy, off-balance, throwing off the wrong foot,  and not even pointing his feet in the right direction.  If he can fix his footwork issues, I think the Bills will be fine.  If not, this season could crash and burn.

So true. Josh has made such great strides improving his hips and footwork on his throws.  And this was reflected in his start. But these last 2 games you can see him regress to back foot again and failing to open the hips. Maybe the fact that he knows they have zero run game and a depleted defense is causing him to press? We need a win tomorrow in the worst way. I don't care if it's by 1 pt. Buy time to get some of these guys back. 

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Lots of comments in here talking about all the Duke fanboys, but I see it as just the opposite: way too much hating and clowning on a Bills player for no good reason.

 

To be clear: he’s a below average receiver who dropped a key TD pass in a playoff game. He’s also a hard working Buffalo Bill with a good attitude. Why so much hate for a guy that suits up for the Bills ?
 

All the love and clamoring for Duke early on in his tenure here may have been over the top, but the hate for him now is just as ridiculous.

 

 

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9 hours ago, whatdrought said:

8 snaps, 1 target, 0 receptions.

 

Come back for receipts and let the Duke love finally die for the love of god.

 

9 hours ago, FireChans said:

I dislike Duke Williams purely because of the unrequited TBD love for this less than a JAG. Just as I disliked Brandon Reilly and Dezmin Lewis before him.

 

Please stop.

Why do you guys root for this guy to fail. Isn't the point of being a fan to hope every player succeeds. Would it be so horrible if they could turn him into a smaller TE?  Besides Knox could be easily be lumped in to the Reilly / Lewis argument.  Enjoy rooting for him to fail so you guys can be right.

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1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

 

Why do you guys root for this guy to fail. Isn't the point of being a fan to hope every player succeeds. Would it be so horrible if they could turn him into a smaller TE?  Besides Knox could be easily be lumped in to the Reilly / Lewis argument.  Enjoy rooting for him to fail so you guys can be right.

I enjoy the sport of football and by being a fan by making as honest and objective evaluations as possible. Nothing would make me happier than if Duke Williams became the next Megatron, but it just won't ever happen, no matter how many topics get made about him.

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14 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:
 

 

Defense is in shambles with injuries etc. Dodson, Norman, Wallace out; Milano, White questionable, Edmunds banged up, Murphy healthy inactive. So it will be up to the offense to win this.

 

While Jets’ defense focuses on Diggs and Beasley, Duke and Davis will score TDs tomorrow.

 

Before the beginning of the season, I caught flak for arguing that Duke can play TE in a pinch. Let us see if that flak is deserved.


I don’t think Duke does anything.  
 

My guess is about 4-6 plays and no targets if he is even active.

 

 

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3 hours ago, nucci said:

what is the obsession with this player?

 

Big WR we've always lacked. Can get catches when covered. Solid productivity in CFL, and Buff market is more in tune with Canada than others. Camp underdog who worked hard to make the team. 

 

He's produced here for us when given chances. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Big WR we've always lacked. Can get catches when covered. Solid productivity in CFL, and Buff market is more in tune with Canada than others. Camp underdog who worked hard to make the team. 

 

He's produced here for us when given chances. 

 

 

I know what he's done. If he was so good he would be playing on a regular basis

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6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

 

Why do you guys root for this guy to fail. Isn't the point of being a fan to hope every player succeeds. Would it be so horrible if they could turn him into a smaller TE?  Besides Knox could be easily be lumped in to the Reilly / Lewis argument.  Enjoy rooting for him to fail so you guys can be right.


Having a proper understanding of reality isn’t rooting for someone to fail. Trust me, i wasn’t rooting for Duke to suck in the playoff game.

 

I made my prediction, as per the OP, and I’m confident It’ll be pretty accurate because I have a proper understanding of reality. I would love to be proven wrong and have Duke go off for 8 catches, 135 yards and a score or two, but the chances of that happening are in the 1 digit percentile. 

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I think the love for Duke stems from the fact the Bills were trotting Zay Jones out as a #1 for so long. The guy caught a million passes in college, but rarely came away with the 50/50 balls and seemed to have a knack for not catching balls that hit him in the hands. Duke produced well early on with a limited snap count, while making some tough catches we Bills fans have been accustomed to seeing dropped. Foster is another Bill that had a good looking career trajectory early on. Waiting for Zay to develop for years with a 36% catch rate while giving him 100 targets a season it is easy to like guys like Duke and Foster who caught over 60% of their targets.

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17 hours ago, Utah John said:

With only Kroft at TE, the running game is not likely to be effective, again.  It will be up to the passing game to win.  The offense really misses John Brown.  What's much worse, though, is that Josh Allen seems to have forgotten all the good things he learned in the offseason about footwork.  The past two games, he's been jumpy, off-balance, throwing off the wrong foot,  and not even pointing his feet in the right direction.  If he can fix his footwork issues, I think the Bills will be fine.  If not, this season could crash and burn.

 

You're forgetting Gilliam.  The Bills apparently think more of Gilliam than Williams as he has been part of the initial 53 and has played and produced some in the offense.  I'd imagine Williams would be the 3rd TE/6th WR.  will he be active, probably in case a player ahead of him in either position gets hurt.  But will he play much, maybe if they wish to line him up as a TE, but play more of a big TE/WR role??

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51 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

The hate for Duke in this thread is insane. Just wish the guy to do his best to secure a Bills W.

 

Insane


i don’t hate Duke. I dislike the subset of posters here who have latched on to him as some sort of savior. I wish Duke well but recognize what he is - a bottom 5 roster player at best. 
 

i mean look the OP is saying now that duke can play tight end? Seriously? What else can Duke do should we throw him in at linebacker as well? 

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29 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


i don’t hate Duke. I dislike the subset of posters here who have latched on to him as some sort of savior. I wish Duke well but recognize what he is - a bottom 5 roster player at best. 
 

i mean look the OP is saying now that duke can play tight end? Seriously? What else can Duke do should we throw him in at linebacker as well? 


 

shhh. Facts = Duke hate. Duh.

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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

It’s sort of annoying they need to bring up a sixth WR because Brown is out, and neither the KR/ PR or jet sweep specialist Can play WR. 

 

Maybe they need to bring up a 6th WR because Daboll wants to have 6 WR active on game day?

 

McKensie has caught 12 of 13 targets and they weren't all Jet sweeps

Roberts did not do a good job handling an off-target ball resulting in an INT against Tenn, but he also did a fantastic job making a sideline catch with "toe drag swag"

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15 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I predict that the weirdly anti-Duke crowd will latch on to any opportunity to bash him.

Can’t give that crowd much credence, they all think DaRick Rodgers, who never actually made the team is on par with Williams who actually has an NFL career, and a game winning TD reception. That and those guys are all Browns and Pats fans anyway... 😁👍🍺

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1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:


i don’t hate Duke. I dislike the subset of posters here who have latched on to him as some sort of savior. I wish Duke well but recognize what he is - a bottom 5 roster player at best. 
 

i mean look the OP is saying now that duke can play tight end? Seriously? What else can Duke do should we throw him in at linebacker as well? 

I’m kinda feeling sorry for you and the other “fans” who have a serious issues here, relax, and openly root for his success, after all it will mean Bills success.
 

All ya’ll need to  get over your struggling distemper already. Hell I openly root for every player, to include the PS guys. You and your cohort  hate on so many of our players... sad really, it’s game day! Get your head out of your - - - and root for the whole damn team. 

 

😁👍🍺 Go Bills!!!

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Crazy how people hold this high bar for Duke who was a rookie playing in like his 5th or 6th game and 1st playoff game....he drips a pass and now he isn't a NFL level WR. Like he didn't have a 100 yard game in what...like his 4th or 5th time being active???? You guys who count a guy out for rookie mistakes are the ones who suck. And don't bring up CFL which is really glorified division 1 football with different rules. He was still a rookie last year and had very few first team reps heading into thos last few weeks of last year.

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58 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Duke will play and will catch a TD.  Picture those contested catches we saw all summer from practice.  


 

I tend to picture the contested drops from last year as that is who he is.  A way below average WR that can not get open and has to make contested catches because of that.  
 

Then when he gets an opportunity- he muffs 2 TD catches because DBs are all over him.

 

Even the terrible DBs on the Jets are not going to be afraid of Duke - he just can not get open in the NFL.  4 years has shown that.  He is also not big enough to play a post-up style and his hands just are not good enough to make enough plays.

 

I wish him the best, but if Duke is on the field for this offense - something bad is happening because he is legitimately the 8 or 9th best receiving weapon behind the other WRs, TEs, and RBs that are active.

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